Anonymous
Post 01/21/2014 11:14     Subject: How do difficult babies do in daycare settings?
Anonymous wrote:I was told that the fed centers in DC with NAEYC accreditation are not allowed to have any bouncers, swings, or any other piece of equipment that restricts movement. Anyone know if this is fact or fiction?


Ours is NAEYC accredited and does not allow bouncers or swings.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2014 11:13     Subject: Re:How do difficult babies do in daycare settings?
Anonymous wrote:Chiming in on the swings and bouncers.....we also are in a local center in a fed building and no swings and bouncers are permitted, so places without them do exist. I've been in the same center since 2007 with multiple kids, and have to agree that behaviors at home can vary greatly from behavior at the center. From napping habits to eating, things were/are typically BETTER than at home. There is something to be said for structure, following rules, and observing peers that has worked well for us.



Same with our DoD center. Daycare provides are on the floor with them all day. No swings, bouncers ect.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2014 10:41     Subject: How do difficult babies do in daycare settings?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They get left in a bouncer or swing crying.


I have never seen a baby alone and crying on my daycare, ever. But way to justify yourself.


Right, it's mot gonna happen when parents are around.... But it does. A lot.


Decent day cares aren't allowed to have bouncers or swings, FYI.


Oh nonsense.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2014 10:39     Subject: How do difficult babies do in daycare settings?
I was told that the fed centers in DC with NAEYC accreditation are not allowed to have any bouncers, swings, or any other piece of equipment that restricts movement. Anyone know if this is fact or fiction?
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2014 10:33     Subject: How do difficult babies do in daycare settings?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They get left in a bouncer or swing crying.


I have never seen a baby alone and crying on my daycare, ever. But way to justify yourself.


Right, it's mot gonna happen when parents are around.... But it does. A lot.


When parents aren't around you have no idea how much this happens. It is amazing to me that people actually think that daycare providers behave the same way when parents are around as they do when they are not. You are kidding yourselves.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2014 10:20     Subject: How do difficult babies do in daycare settings?
Anonymous wrote:Another former daycare worker here - babies ARE left to cry. How else do you expect two adults making less than $20 an hour to tend to 6 infants?

My theory is tha some kids are dandelions and some are orchids. The dandelions will do about the same no matter what their care is. The orchid/high needs infants need a high level of care and attention to turn out decently.

Daycare is great for dandelions and child abuse for orchids.



Agreed. What happens most is that the babies are moved from one seat/swing/mat to another throughout the day. That is why parents who "pop in" don't realize what's going on. All the parents who defend the daycares either are clueless, don't expect much in terms of care or are in denial. Go work at a daycare and then come back to tell is what you think.

There are some good daycare but most suck. I'd go to one that has cameras in every room.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2014 09:45     Subject: How do difficult babies do in daycare settings?
Another former daycare worker here - babies ARE left to cry. How else do you expect two adults making less than $20 an hour to tend to 6 infants?

My theory is tha some kids are dandelions and some are orchids. The dandelions will do about the same no matter what their care is. The orchid/high needs infants need a high level of care and attention to turn out decently.

Daycare is great for dandelions and child abuse for orchids.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2014 09:20     Subject: How do difficult babies do in daycare settings?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

It's a baby propping contraption...


And a crib is a baby prison where you can leave the child to cry, so should good daycares not have cribs?

Babies can't be left to cry in their cribs, by law but good try. And we have webcam access so I can see that this is absolutely not the case.

We had both a swing and an exersaucer at our own home. My child didn't live in either one, but did get time in each as part of her day. If any caregiver, parent or otherwise, leaves a child in one of these to cry rather than tending to their needs, then yes it is awful. As part of a day full of varied activities and viewpoints for a child, it's totally fine.

And I say this as a PP with a very high-need baby who hated sleeping in a crib and wanted to be held constantly.


I'm the PP who said "no cribs". I was being facetious in response to the PP who categorically who called things "baby propping contraptions". My point is that a child shouldn't be left to cry anywhere - whether a crib, a swing, a bouncy seat, a jumperoo - regardless of who is providing the care. The presence or absence of these things doesn't in and of itself tell you anything about the quality of the care.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2014 09:15     Subject: How do difficult babies do in daycare settings?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They get left in a bouncer or swing crying.


I have never seen a baby alone and crying on my daycare, ever. But way to justify yourself.


Right, it's mot gonna happen when parents are around.... But it does. A lot.


Decent day cares aren't allowed to have bouncers or swings, FYI.


Huh? My kid goes to one if the most well regarded ones in the area, with 4 teachers for 6 infants, and they have a swing.


It's a baby propping contraption...


And a crib is a baby prison where you can leave the child to cry, so should good daycares not have cribs?

Babies can't be left to cry in their cribs, by law but good try. And we have webcam access so I can see that this is absolutely not the case.

We had both a swing and an exersaucer at our own home. My child didn't live in either one, but did get time in each as part of her day. If any caregiver, parent or otherwise, leaves a child in one of these to cry rather than tending to their needs, then yes it is awful. As part of a day full of varied activities and viewpoints for a child, it's totally fine.

And I say this as a PP with a very high-need baby who hated sleeping in a crib and wanted to be held constantly.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2014 09:13     Subject: How do difficult babies do in daycare settings?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They get left in a bouncer or swing crying.


I have never seen a baby alone and crying on my daycare, ever. But way to justify yourself.


Right, it's mot gonna happen when parents are around.... But it does. A lot.


Decent day cares aren't allowed to have bouncers or swings, FYI.


Huh? My kid goes to one if the most well regarded ones in the area, with 4 teachers for 6 infants, and they have a swing.


It's a baby propping contraption...


And a crib is a baby prison where you can leave the child to cry, so should good daycares not have cribs?

We had both a swing and an exersaucer at our own home. My child didn't live in either one, but did get time in each as part of her day. If any caregiver, parent or otherwise, leaves a child in one of these to cry rather than tending to their needs, then yes it is awful. As part of a day full of varied activities and viewpoints for a child, it's totally fine.

And I say this as a PP with a very high-need baby who hated sleeping in a crib and wanted to be held constantly.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2014 09:12     Subject: How do difficult babies do in daycare settings?
Are you all actually holding your babies 24/7? Even when I was home I put my kid in a bouncy seat and walked away from time to time. So he cried a bit. Babies cry -- it's what they do.

Some of your expectations of care are way overinflated. Babies need to be warm, fed, clean, cuddled, and put down from time to time.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2014 09:07     Subject: How do difficult babies do in daycare settings?
Our center has swings AND bouncers, and DS napped in both of those contraptions for the duration of his time in the infant room (until 11 mos). Once he was older he was only in the sling-style bouncer seat for naps. Did it bother me? Yes, it kind of did as I expected he would sleep in a crib, but he was one of those "difficult" babies and I relented to "whatever means necessary". And guess what? He did great there, napped wonderfully. I once again fretted when he moved up to the toddler room and had to nap on a cot, but he transitioned well in less than a week. I do agree with a previous poster who said sometimes these types of kids do even better in daycare; this was true for us. Both the director and administrator's kids were in my son's class, so I knew there was additional oversight. I also showed up at random times. Were there sometimes babies crying? Of course. But I never felt a baby's needs were being ignored. The bottom line is every provider is different, and you'll quickly discover whether or not it's a good fit for you and your child.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2014 08:52     Subject: How do difficult babies do in daycare settings?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They get left in a bouncer or swing crying.


I have never seen a baby alone and crying on my daycare, ever. But way to justify yourself.


Right, it's mot gonna happen when parents are around.... But it does. A lot.


Decent day cares aren't allowed to have bouncers or swings, FYI.


Huh? My kid goes to one if the most well regarded ones in the area, with 4 teachers for 6 infants, and they have a swing.


It's a baby propping contraption...
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2014 08:22     Subject: How do difficult babies do in daycare settings?
What about introducing a difficult, "older" baby to daycare....say in the 7-11 month range?
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2014 08:04     Subject: Re:How do difficult babies do in daycare settings?
Chiming in on the swings and bouncers.....we also are in a local center in a fed building and no swings and bouncers are permitted, so places without them do exist. I've been in the same center since 2007 with multiple kids, and have to agree that behaviors at home can vary greatly from behavior at the center. From napping habits to eating, things were/are typically BETTER than at home. There is something to be said for structure, following rules, and observing peers that has worked well for us.