Anonymous
Post 01/29/2014 12:38     Subject: Junior DD wants to be a lawyer
The safe move here is to avoid law school at all costs - it is a debt trap.

The aggressive move is to rack up all the debt you can and wait for a massive student loan debt forgiveness "bailout." I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen in the next decade.

The dumbest move is to pay for law school.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2014 12:33     Subject: Junior DD wants to be a lawyer
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Crazy to me how many girls go to college. She should focus on finding a husband, taking care of him and having children. That is what woman are for. None of this college or career stuff.


well you are being myopic because college is a very good place to find a husband.


Or at least one who has any prospects of decent employment. I wonder what the stats are on men with college/advanced degrees marrying women with only a high school education. Pretty low I bet. I don't know any couples who fit that description. Don't even know any in the reverse.

Anonymous
Post 01/29/2014 10:12     Subject: Junior DD wants to be a lawyer
Anonymous wrote:Crazy to me how many girls go to college. She should focus on finding a husband, taking care of him and having children. That is what woman are for. None of this college or career stuff.


well you are being myopic because college is a very good place to find a husband.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2014 07:57     Subject: Re:Junior DD wants to be a lawyer
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To get a job as a lawyer, it is absolutely necessary these days to be accepted into the top-15 or top-25 school and graduate top-25% of your class. It also helps to have some kind of a practical undergraduate degree, such as accounting, engineering, or biology. I would say start by getting a decent undergrad degree and see if you can get into a top-20 law school. If you can't - don't bother, the investment will not pay off.


So only 2.5% of law school candidates will have a chance of working at a lawyer (20/200 schools x .25)? Or are there other lawyer jobs that are just invisible on DCUM the way that certain schools, and counties, and socio-economic don't exist?

I know that lawyer jobs are harder to come by than in the past, but I've very suspicious of your figures.


Don't be suspicious of those; they're generous. The overwhelming majority of US law school graduates complete their education with ZERO employment. None. Most law schools are student loan mills. If you go outside the top 20 or so schools, you will have ZERO chance of repaying your massive students loans, which cannot be discharged in bankruptcy. Law school is a ticket to permanent enslavement for most law students. Not a few, not some, not many -- most.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2014 21:00     Subject: Junior DD wants to be a lawyer
Crazy to me how many girls go to college. She should focus on finding a husband, taking care of him and having children. That is what woman are for. None of this college or career stuff.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2014 20:30     Subject: Re:Junior DD wants to be a lawyer
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To get a job as a lawyer, it is absolutely necessary these days to be accepted into the top-15 or top-25 school and graduate top-25% of your class. It also helps to have some kind of a practical undergraduate degree, such as accounting, engineering, or biology. I would say start by getting a decent undergrad degree and see if you can get into a top-20 law school. If you can't - don't bother, the investment will not pay off.


So only 2.5% of law school candidates will have a chance of working at a lawyer (20/200 schools x .25)? Or are there other lawyer jobs that are just invisible on DCUM the way that certain schools, and counties, and socio-economic don't exist?

I know that lawyer jobs are harder to come by than in the past, but I've very suspicious of your figures.

I'm the poster you were responding to. Law school is not just a degree. It's also loans - vast amounts of loans, hundreds of thousands sometimes. You don't just have to find a job, you have to find a job that will allow you to repay those insane amounts of student loans and still somehow manage to have a life. The lower in the rankings you go, the higher the chances of unemployment and the lower the potential salary. Everyone's risk tolerance is different, but I would advise my child strongly against attending anything but the top-25 schools. Just my opinion.

^^ forgot to add - lower ranked law schools do not typically cost any less than highly ranked ones. Yet another thing to keep in mind when making your decision.