Anonymous
01/19/2014 15:18
Subject: School Without Walls emergency LSAT meeting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:a school system cannot be run with such unreliable prediction of enrollment. this is a direct impact of charter schools. regardless of the benefits they bring, this is a direct impact of choice.
I would call it a good thing. Schools that cannot attract and retain students, don't deserve to be funded.
Blaming charters for DCPS's problems never made any sense to me. It's not as if DCPS was doing brilliantly and then the charters came along and stole their thunder. No, DCPS has been slugging along, getting worse each year for decades, and the charters have had the effect of forcing some necessary and long-overdue changes. However, it may be too little, too late.
C'est la vie. Not everything deserves to be on life support and live forever.
+1
If schools are genuinely concerned about enrollment, then they need to work harder at finding ways to draw and retain students. The old model of having it easy, and kids just being forced to go to school "x" for lack of any other options is long gone. Time for public schools to stop playing the victim and either step up to the plate and compete for these students or cut bait and close down.
And where are the kids supposed to go who don't give a XXXX or whose parents don't give a XXXX? Who is going to work at those schools? How about the kids who do care but parents just send them to their neighborhood school, what about them? C'est la vie I guess, as long as they are not mixing with your Mary or Johnny life is good!!!!
What is your point? First you complain that unpredictable enrollment is a consequence of charter schools. The rebuttal is that DCPS enrollment was shrinking even before charter schools, as a direct consequence of the declining quality of DCPS. Charters are not to blame.
When confronted with that irrefutable evidence you are switching gears to ask the question "where are they supposed to go?" Here's the answer: send them to one of the opening and expanding charter schools. Or, send them to a consolidated DCPS school. Your choice - expanding successful schools and consolidating failing ones is the rational decision of every sensible school district nationwide, when confronted with the reality that budgets are not, in fact, unlimited.
+1 DCPS will still be around for some time to come, though they may have to restructure.
"Where will they go?" There will still be options for them, probably more and better options than they have now. But not that it matters, if it's families and students who "don't give a XXXX" and don't value education anyhow. Maybe your concern would be better directed at the fact that they don't give a XXXX and toward dealing with that and lifting them up rather than trying to mess with everyone else who DOES give a XXXX to try and hold them back.
Anonymous
01/19/2014 14:57
Subject: School Without Walls emergency LSAT meeting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
C'est la vie I guess, as long as they are not mixing with your Mary or Johnny life is good!!!!
You got that right. And maybe if you took care of Monifa and Roshanda we would all be better off.
Anonymous
01/19/2014 14:29
Subject: School Without Walls emergency LSAT meeting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:a school system cannot be run with such unreliable prediction of enrollment. this is a direct impact of charter schools. regardless of the benefits they bring, this is a direct impact of choice.
I would call it a good thing. Schools that cannot attract and retain students, don't deserve to be funded.
Blaming charters for DCPS's problems never made any sense to me. It's not as if DCPS was doing brilliantly and then the charters came along and stole their thunder. No, DCPS has been slugging along, getting worse each year for decades, and the charters have had the effect of forcing some necessary and long-overdue changes. However, it may be too little, too late.
C'est la vie. Not everything deserves to be on life support and live forever.
+1
If schools are genuinely concerned about enrollment, then they need to work harder at finding ways to draw and retain students. The old model of having it easy, and kids just being forced to go to school "x" for lack of any other options is long gone. Time for public schools to stop playing the victim and either step up to the plate and compete for these students or cut bait and close down.
And where are the kids supposed to go who don't give a XXXX or whose parents don't give a XXXX? Who is going to work at those schools? How about the kids who do care but parents just send them to their neighborhood school, what about them? C'est la vie I guess, as long as they are not mixing with your Mary or Johnny life is good!!!!
What is your point? First you complain that unpredictable enrollment is a consequence of charter schools. The rebuttal is that DCPS enrollment was shrinking even before charter schools, as a direct consequence of the declining quality of DCPS. Charters are not to blame.
When confronted with that irrefutable evidence you are switching gears to ask the question "where are they supposed to go?" Here's the answer: send them to one of the opening and expanding charter schools. Or, send them to a consolidated DCPS school. Your choice - expanding successful schools and consolidating failing ones is the rational decision of every sensible school district nationwide, when confronted with the reality that budgets are not, in fact, unlimited.
Anonymous
01/18/2014 22:36
Subject: School Without Walls emergency LSAT meeting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:a school system cannot be run with such unreliable prediction of enrollment. this is a direct impact of charter schools. regardless of the benefits they bring, this is a direct impact of choice.
I would call it a good thing. Schools that cannot attract and retain students, don't deserve to be funded.
Blaming charters for DCPS's problems never made any sense to me. It's not as if DCPS was doing brilliantly and then the charters came along and stole their thunder. No, DCPS has been slugging along, getting worse each year for decades, and the charters have had the effect of forcing some necessary and long-overdue changes. However, it may be too little, too late.
C'est la vie. Not everything deserves to be on life support and live forever.
+1
If schools are genuinely concerned about enrollment, then they need to work harder at finding ways to draw and retain students. The old model of having it easy, and kids just being forced to go to school "x" for lack of any other options is long gone. Time for public schools to stop playing the victim and either step up to the plate and compete for these students or cut bait and close down.
And where are the kids supposed to go who don't give a XXXX or whose parents don't give a XXXX? Who is going to work at those schools? How about the kids who do care but parents just send them to their neighborhood school, what about them? C'est la vie I guess, as long as they are not mixing with your Mary or Johnny life is good!!!!
Anonymous
01/18/2014 20:50
Subject: School Without Walls emergency LSAT meeting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:a school system cannot be run with such unreliable prediction of enrollment. this is a direct impact of charter schools. regardless of the benefits they bring, this is a direct impact of choice.
I would call it a good thing. Schools that cannot attract and retain students, don't deserve to be funded.
Blaming charters for DCPS's problems never made any sense to me. It's not as if DCPS was doing brilliantly and then the charters came along and stole their thunder. No, DCPS has been slugging along, getting worse each year for decades, and the charters have had the effect of forcing some necessary and long-overdue changes. However, it may be too little, too late.
C'est la vie. Not everything deserves to be on life support and live forever.
+1
If schools are genuinely concerned about enrollment, then they need to work harder at finding ways to draw and retain students. The old model of having it easy, and kids just being forced to go to school "x" for lack of any other options is long gone. Time for public schools to stop playing the victim and either step up to the plate and compete for these students or cut bait and close down.
Anonymous
01/18/2014 17:16
Subject: School Without Walls emergency LSAT meeting
Anonymous wrote:a school system cannot be run with such unreliable prediction of enrollment. this is a direct impact of charter schools. regardless of the benefits they bring, this is a direct impact of choice.
I would call it a good thing. Schools that cannot attract and retain students, don't deserve to be funded.
Blaming charters for DCPS's problems never made any sense to me. It's not as if DCPS was doing brilliantly and then the charters came along and stole their thunder. No, DCPS has been slugging along, getting worse each year for decades, and the charters have had the effect of forcing some necessary and long-overdue changes. However, it may be too little, too late.
C'est la vie. Not everything deserves to be on life support and live forever.
Anonymous
01/17/2014 21:53
Subject: School Without Walls emergency LSAT meeting
How about enough irrational poster bashing?
Anonymous
01/17/2014 21:51
Subject: School Without Walls emergency LSAT meeting
Charters and choice have absolutely affected enrollment. Almost 50% of students in dcps attend charters it's a huge effect on MS and HS, especially given that most parents don't see many public (non-charter) options at that level.
Anonymous
01/17/2014 17:51
Subject: School Without Walls emergency LSAT meeting
I think above comment about choice impacting enrollment predictions does apply and applies to the lower school especially, since it is not test in. And if you don't want to hear other peoples opinions you don't need to come to an opinion forum.
Anonymous
01/17/2014 17:21
Subject: School Without Walls emergency LSAT meeting
Anonymous wrote:a school system cannot be run with such unreliable prediction of enrollment. this is a direct impact of charter schools. regardless of the benefits they bring, this is a direct impact of choice.
This is a total non-sequitur and based on nothing in reality. SWW does not lose students at the last minute to charters. SWW struggles with enrollment projections because of late-breaking changes to its budget decided by DCPS Central Office. Place the blame squarely where it belongs, and shut it with the irrational charter-bashing.
Anonymous
01/17/2014 16:25
Subject: School Without Walls emergency LSAT meeting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is SWW calling an "emergency" LSAT meeting about next year's enrollment numbers?
Anyone who posts LSAT information on this site is in violation of the committee.
Aren't the meetings open to the public?
Only if they were voted onto the LSAT.
Um, no.
LSAT meetings can be open to other parents. Direct quote from the Walls email: "As always, LSAT meetings are open to our community."
I think the only meetings that might be closed would be those involving budget or staffing discussions, which has already been mentioned.
signed, spouse of a former LSAT chair.