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Anonymous wrote:More time with the scores just means more time for the crazy parents to flip out and get each other stirred up.

The parent referral form is not that difficult. It only takes a few minutes to complete.

If you read the replies- you would know that some parents who are close to the benchmark on NNAT and find out the cogat is not good would NOT even go through the whole process. It's not just one supposed simple sheet- it's the whole packet.

No, it's not. It's one sheet. The referral is a single sheet of paper. Save "the whole packet" for the appeal, if it is even necessary.

The appeal needs to have new information -- and that would be provided by "the whole packet."

No- you don't follow that if your child is borderline for NNAT and bombs Cogat, you would NOT submit at all. So it's not just the referral, it's the questionnaire and samples and references. Most parents who truly are considering AAP would do all of the above (so please don't reply with how these are all optional). So- it's not just one sheet, it's submitting all of the parts to have your child considered for AAP. And having the coagt scores would really help a lot of parents determine whether or not to bother. And yes, it is time and effort to even doing this and then see cores and decide not to.

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Anonymous wrote:More time with the scores just means more time for the crazy parents to flip out and get each other stirred up.

The parent referral form is not that difficult. It only takes a few minutes to complete.

If you read the replies- you would know that some parents who are close to the benchmark on NNAT and find out the cogat is not good would NOT even go through the whole process. It's not just one supposed simple sheet- it's the whole packet.

You don't need to send in a bunch of extra pages. Just do the parent referral sheet. Takes about 10 minutes, maybe 20 if you are a slow writer.

Fill it out online and don't type more than the computer allows instead of doing it in handwriting.

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Anonymous wrote:More time with the scores just means more time for the crazy parents to flip out and get each other stirred up.

The parent referral form is not that difficult. It only takes a few minutes to complete.

If you read the replies- you would know that some parents who are close to the benchmark on NNAT and find out the cogat is not good would NOT even go through the whole process. It's not just one supposed simple sheet- it's the whole packet.

No, it's not. It's one sheet. The referral is a single sheet of paper. Save "the whole packet" for the appeal, if it is even necessary.

The appeal needs to have new information -- and that would be provided by "the whole packet."

Anonymous wrote:More time with the scores just means more time for the crazy parents to flip out and get each other stirred up.

The parent referral form is not that difficult. It only takes a few minutes to complete.

If you read the replies- you would know that some parents who are close to the benchmark on NNAT and find out the cogat is not good would NOT even go through the whole process. It's not just one supposed simple sheet- it's the whole packet.

More time with the scores just means more time for the crazy parents to flip out and get each other stirred up.

The parent referral form is not that difficult. It only takes a few minutes to complete.

In my day job I take a lot of tests for professional certifications. I can't remember when the last time I didn't get my results at the end of the session. Things like computers help....

Really, the results for all these tests should be available online as we go....

And to the person who thinks we we're unable to remember our kids numbers....you kinda scare me a little bit...it's pretty easy really.

Anonymous wrote:Exactly! My DC will miss the pool based on one question on the NNAT (assuming same benchmark score of 132). I can go ahead and refer, but if DC really bombed FxAT, not much point....

JUST LET US KNOW ALREADY FCPS!!!

You really need to calm down.

Exactly! My DC will miss the pool based on one question on the NNAT (assuming same benchmark score of 132). I can go ahead and refer, but if DC really bombed FxAT, not much point....

JUST LET US KNOW ALREADY FCPS!!!

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+++100000

And why wouldn't a simple email suffice-at least to tell you hey, your kid is in the pool. Then send the scores later if you can't send them out before the referral deadline. It would just be nice to be given more than a week to do the referral form if necessary, esp when it is due after a long (4 day) mid semester break when many people go out of town!

Again, I don't understand why people complain about a week for the parent referral form. It is an hour of your time for something important. If you value the AAP then spending an hour on this referral whether needed or not should not be a big deal. Just fill it out. That way you are not rushing to get it filled out. We submitted ours when they came back from Winter break. Now I'm working on the parent questionnaire and figuring out the work samples. I'm hoping to get that done this week and returned to the school so that my part is done.

Yes, I don't get the exasperation about when the parents get the scores. No one is keeping anyone from filling out a referral form in advance.

Most of us have the NNAT score and have an idea- but if the fxat score is so so on some, I would hope some parents would consider holding back. It would hopefully make a difference in referring or not. It's quite unprofessional to give anyone a week or so time to apply/refer/submit for something that impacts the next 6 years of their lives. How do you think college would work with this extreme timeline???

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+++100000

And why wouldn't a simple email suffice-at least to tell you hey, your kid is in the pool. Then send the scores later if you can't send them out before the referral deadline. It would just be nice to be given more than a week to do the referral form if necessary, esp when it is due after a long (4 day) mid semester break when many people go out of town!

Again, I don't understand why people complain about a week for the parent referral form. It is an hour of your time for something important. If you value the AAP then spending an hour on this referral whether needed or not should not be a big deal. Just fill it out. That way you are not rushing to get it filled out. We submitted ours when they came back from Winter break. Now I'm working on the parent questionnaire and figuring out the work samples. I'm hoping to get that done this week and returned to the school so that my part is done.

Yes, I don't get the exasperation about when the parents get the scores. No one is keeping anyone from filling out a referral form in advance.

Why not post them on Blackboard?

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry but it still doesn't take 3 months to stuff an envelope-and if staffing is such as issue, there is a lovely little thing called electronic mail...perhaps you've heard of that, Fairfax County administrators?

They are deliberate about returning test scores and pool letters as late as possible before the deadline to dissuade referrals-nothing has changed AT ALL since my older child went through the process a couple of years ago, and nothing will in the future either!!

Maybe scores can be posted on the door of the school and parents can just look them up there.

OMG, next time give a warning when you are going to post something so hilarious! I nearly spit out my coffee. I have seen what it's like when the school posts the classroom assignments in August. I can only imagine the scene if AAP screening scores were posted. The image of parents clawing at each other to get a view of their kid's score outside some door is great. Based on the fact that a separate forum had to be set up here on DCUM, I could see parents camping out to make sure they got their score the second it was posted.

Good one PP.

It would save a lot of money and time.

No it wouldn't. There is no way in hell the scores would be posted with names, so their id number would have to be used. Do you know your child's number? You don't. You would need a letter sent to you with the number. Oh wait, that requires someone stuffing an envelope with a piece of paper and sending it out...just like sending an individual score report.

Student numbers are on report cards/progress reports. Parents already know them.

It would save a lot of money and time, and it would appease the "I must know my child's score immediately" parents.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry but it still doesn't take 3 months to stuff an envelope-and if staffing is such as issue, there is a lovely little thing called electronic mail...perhaps you've heard of that, Fairfax County administrators?

They are deliberate about returning test scores and pool letters as late as possible before the deadline to dissuade referrals-nothing has changed AT ALL since my older child went through the process a couple of years ago, and nothing will in the future either!!

Maybe scores can be posted on the door of the school and parents can just look them up there.

OMG, next time give a warning when you are going to post something so hilarious! I nearly spit out my coffee. I have seen what it's like when the school posts the classroom assignments in August. I can only imagine the scene if AAP screening scores were posted. The image of parents clawing at each other to get a view of their kid's score outside some door is great. Based on the fact that a separate forum had to be set up here on DCUM, I could see parents camping out to make sure they got their score the second it was posted.

Good one PP.

It would save a lot of money and time.

No it wouldn't. There is no way in hell the scores would be posted with names, so their id number would have to be used. Do you know your child's number? You don't. You would need a letter sent to you with the number. Oh wait, that requires someone stuffing an envelope with a piece of paper and sending it out...just like sending an individual score report.

Anonymous wrote:
+++100000

And why wouldn't a simple email suffice-at least to tell you hey, your kid is in the pool. Then send the scores later if you can't send them out before the referral deadline. It would just be nice to be given more than a week to do the referral form if necessary, esp when it is due after a long (4 day) mid semester break when many people go out of town!

Again, I don't understand why people complain about a week for the parent referral form. It is an hour of your time for something important. If you value the AAP then spending an hour on this referral whether needed or not should not be a big deal. Just fill it out. That way you are not rushing to get it filled out. We submitted ours when they came back from Winter break. Now I'm working on the parent questionnaire and figuring out the work samples. I'm hoping to get that done this week and returned to the school so that my part is done.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the county pays for the testing, I believe that means they own the scores and they can send them or not whenever they want. We could as parents pay for private testing and then we would be given the scores much more quickly. But technically, the NNAT and FxAT scores belong to FCPS, not us.

You are right and the point is, they choose to delay, but there is a poster that thinks that it's not something that they have chosen to do and that it actually takes that long to process. They own the test and can delay, and as a parent who pays taxes used to pay for the test I can comment that I think the delay is ridiculous.

+++100000

And why wouldn't a simple email suffice-at least to tell you hey, your kid is in the pool. Then send the scores later if you can't send them out before the referral deadline. It would just be nice to be given more than a week to do the referral form if necessary, esp when it is due after a long (4 day) mid semester break when many people go out of town!