Anonymous
Post 01/03/2014 19:19     Subject: Can I do anything about excessive wood smoke in my neighborhood?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Government energy officials, and via hyped up group-think health-scare lobbies and classroom based youth movements, are using basic particulate comparative epidemiology that uses the variant reduced PM/ultrafine particulate measure against possibly maybe toxin lists + respiratory hospitalisations in wintertime = ban wood heating, or phase it out. They are doing so due to their "clean energy" natural gas and electricity grid expansion/ consumer demand increases. The plan reduces people's future ability to protect themselves in power outages and fuel shortages. Stove labelling based on the initial idea of replacing all with short life catalysts serves those who make the short-lived catalysts. Their test does not adequately account for ventilation issues in wintertime, which these days and even on pre-dated EPA stoves when applied can make an immediate difference in reducing visible smoke, odours and complaints from those sensitive groups. Stop the visual smoke first, then attempt the more questionable, apparently more dangerous (by suggestion) - invisible particulate measures and source specific - toxicologically conclusive (not epidemiologically manipulated) justifications.


I'd like to share a psychiatric diagnosis of the author of this epistle, but I'm afraid of offending other DCUM posters.


Sounds like the poster knows something about wood smoke. What do you know about psychiatry?


Quite a bit, due to my profession.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2014 19:17     Subject: Can I do anything about excessive wood smoke in my neighborhood?
OP,

Stay away from forest fires.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2014 19:08     Subject: Can I do anything about excessive wood smoke in my neighborhood?

OP is perfectly right about smoke pollution of certain wood-burning stoves. Not sure why so many PPs are complaining about private life intrusion - civilizations sometimes have to intrude upon the individual for the good of the community.

My son has asthma and we bought an EPA-certified wood-burning insert for our fireplace. We enjoy burning our wood but without the noxious particles. The smell and sounds of the fire are present but diminished.

If your family is very sensitive to wood fire particles, OP, you should find out how the smoke is coming into your house. If there is no remediation possible, you should move to a less dense area.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2014 19:06     Subject: Can I do anything about excessive wood smoke in my neighborhood?
I love the smell of wood smoke! Like another PP, one of our home projects in the new year is to get our fireplace cleaned and ready for full wood burning operation.

I hope I piss off my neighbors!
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2014 18:39     Subject: Can I do anything about excessive wood smoke in my neighborhood?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Government energy officials, and via hyped up group-think health-scare lobbies and classroom based youth movements, are using basic particulate comparative epidemiology that uses the variant reduced PM/ultrafine particulate measure against possibly maybe toxin lists + respiratory hospitalisations in wintertime = ban wood heating, or phase it out. They are doing so due to their "clean energy" natural gas and electricity grid expansion/ consumer demand increases. The plan reduces people's future ability to protect themselves in power outages and fuel shortages. Stove labelling based on the initial idea of replacing all with short life catalysts serves those who make the short-lived catalysts. Their test does not adequately account for ventilation issues in wintertime, which these days and even on pre-dated EPA stoves when applied can make an immediate difference in reducing visible smoke, odours and complaints from those sensitive groups. Stop the visual smoke first, then attempt the more questionable, apparently more dangerous (by suggestion) - invisible particulate measures and source specific - toxicologically conclusive (not epidemiologically manipulated) justifications.


I'd like to share a psychiatric diagnosis of the author of this epistle, but I'm afraid of offending other DCUM posters.


Sounds like the poster knows something about wood smoke. What do you know about psychiatry?
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2014 18:25     Subject: Can I do anything about excessive wood smoke in my neighborhood?
Anonymous wrote:I love WBFP. I bet the gas fireplace booster is also the NDI shill -- they use the same poorly constructed sentences.


We have both. We use the wb about ten times more than the gas!
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2014 17:29     Subject: Can I do anything about excessive wood smoke in my neighborhood?
I love WBFP. I bet the gas fireplace booster is also the NDI shill -- they use the same poorly constructed sentences.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2014 17:13     Subject: Can I do anything about excessive wood smoke in my neighborhood?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I live in the city in a rowhouse and the smoke pollution in my home is awful. There is no way to stop the smoke pollution from coming in the house and I have young children. For those who don't know, wood smoke is highly toxic. Someone on our block must be using a wood burning stove nonstop. In other cities, certain restrictions have been enacted regarding wood burning. Does anyone know if this is true for DC or who I can contact regarding the problem?


I feel sorry for the guy that comes to your door to sell you logs for your wood burning fireplace. You gonna go "Misery" on him and break his legs and take him hostage?


Not the poster you quoted but that is out there. Very creative.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2014 17:11     Subject: Can I do anything about excessive wood smoke in my neighborhood?
Anonymous wrote:Government energy officials, and via hyped up group-think health-scare lobbies and classroom based youth movements, are using basic particulate comparative epidemiology that uses the variant reduced PM/ultrafine particulate measure against possibly maybe toxin lists + respiratory hospitalisations in wintertime = ban wood heating, or phase it out. They are doing so due to their "clean energy" natural gas and electricity grid expansion/ consumer demand increases. The plan reduces people's future ability to protect themselves in power outages and fuel shortages. Stove labelling based on the initial idea of replacing all with short life catalysts serves those who make the short-lived catalysts. Their test does not adequately account for ventilation issues in wintertime, which these days and even on pre-dated EPA stoves when applied can make an immediate difference in reducing visible smoke, odours and complaints from those sensitive groups. Stop the visual smoke first, then attempt the more questionable, apparently more dangerous (by suggestion) - invisible particulate measures and source specific - toxicologically conclusive (not epidemiologically manipulated) justifications.


I'd like to share a psychiatric diagnosis of the author of this epistle, but I'm afraid of offending other DCUM posters.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2014 17:09     Subject: Re:Can I do anything about excessive wood smoke in my neighborhood?
Anonymous wrote:I see OP's point. When one person uses their fireplace in our neighborhood, it stinks up the whole street. Luckily very few of us have fireplaces. I can see how this would be a problem with many people using fireplaces in the same neighborhood.

Twenty years ago I camped in Yosemite Valley campground. Many people used wood fire to cook and the whole campground was filled with smoke that just hung in the air every evening.


Gosh, I love that smell--especially when it's cold outside! Just wouldn't seem like Christmas and winter without it!
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2014 17:02     Subject: Can I do anything about excessive wood smoke in my neighborhood?
Government energy officials, and via hyped up group-think health-scare lobbies and classroom based youth movements, are using basic particulate comparative epidemiology that uses the variant reduced PM/ultrafine particulate measure against possibly maybe toxin lists + respiratory hospitalisations in wintertime = ban wood heating, or phase it out. They are doing so due to their "clean energy" natural gas and electricity grid expansion/ consumer demand increases. The plan reduces people's future ability to protect themselves in power outages and fuel shortages. Stove labelling based on the initial idea of replacing all with short life catalysts serves those who make the short-lived catalysts. Their test does not adequately account for ventilation issues in wintertime, which these days and even on pre-dated EPA stoves when applied can make an immediate difference in reducing visible smoke, odours and complaints from those sensitive groups. Stop the visual smoke first, then attempt the more questionable, apparently more dangerous (by suggestion) - invisible particulate measures and source specific - toxicologically conclusive (not epidemiologically manipulated) justifications.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2014 08:54     Subject: Can I do anything about excessive wood smoke in my neighborhood?
Anonymous wrote:What kind of black soul hates the smell of a wood burning fireplace? It's one of the most comforting smells ever in the history of life.

I can't WAIT to purchase a home one day with a wood fireplace. Gas fireplace don't have anywhere near the same feeling of coziness and home.


Correct gas fireplaces don't stink, maybe stink equates cozy at your home. A proper sized gas fireplace will heat as good or better than a wood.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2014 08:47     Subject: Re:Can I do anything about excessive wood smoke in my neighborhood?
I love the smell of a wood burning fireplace. I can't wait to reclaim the playroom from my kids and turn it in to the family room it's meant to be so I can use my fireplace. It's cozy, it's winter, it just brings back so many memories.

OP, you can't control what other people do, just how you react. If your home is letting that much in, then you really need to check the insulation and take appropriate measures to remedy the situation. I'm in a townhome and I never smell my neighbors fires once I'm inside. Also, it's pretty damn Scrooge-y to take a heat source away from someone in the middle of winter.

Anonymous
Post 01/02/2014 07:46     Subject: Re:Can I do anything about excessive wood smoke in my neighborhood?
Anonymous wrote:I see OP's point. When one person uses their fireplace in our neighborhood, it stinks up the whole street. Luckily very few of us have fireplaces. I can see how this would be a problem with many people using fireplaces in the same neighborhood.

Twenty years ago I camped in Yosemite Valley campground. Many people used wood fire to cook and the whole campground was filled with smoke that just hung in the air every evening.


How dare people build a fire-- when they are camping!!!! ?????? You gave me a good laugh today.

Anonymous
Post 01/02/2014 07:45     Subject: Can I do anything about excessive wood smoke in my neighborhood?
Anonymous wrote:I live in the city in a rowhouse and the smoke pollution in my home is awful. There is no way to stop the smoke pollution from coming in the house and I have young children. For those who don't know, wood smoke is highly toxic. Someone on our block must be using a wood burning stove nonstop. In other cities, certain restrictions have been enacted regarding wood burning. Does anyone know if this is true for DC or who I can contact regarding the problem?


I feel sorry for the guy that comes to your door to sell you logs for your wood burning fireplace. You gonna go "Misery" on him and break his legs and take him hostage?