Anonymous
Post 11/06/2013 12:26     Subject: Go to law school?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Why don't you try to get a paralegal position in an employment law practice group. Your experience is relevant and you will get a taste of the more "legal" side of what you already do.


OP here. Ideally, I would aim at getting a job at one of the national employment firms -- Jackson Lewis, Seyfarth Shaw, Littler Mendolsohn are some of the ones I am aware of. I think my work experience is relevant and should outweigh any issues with the rank of my school or how I do in law school. I just have to get an interview. You have all given me something to think about, though. Even when I get hired at a big firm I may hate it and it doesn't look like I will get any money from a school to attend so I will owe a lot... #decisionsdecisions


So you would go to a law school for a hypothetical interview? Because everything else *should* then somehow fall into place. You work in HR, how can you be so clueless?


No, I would go to law school so I can eventually be a lawyer at one of these firms, not just for an interivew. Duh! Unless you know of a way I can be an attorney without 3 years of schooling? If so, tell me.

Also to the PP who said the firms won't hire me bc of school, you must have missed the part where I talked about my REAL WORLD experience. A firm is going to just throw my resume in the garbage because I didn't go to the right school, even though I have actual experience in the area they practice in? I think some of you are just overly negative and maybe have failed yourselfs professionally, I don't know. I don't mean to be rude...


Instead of being sensitive about people's honest comments on this thread, you should spend some time reading any of the numerous recent articles talking about the problems being encountered by new law school grads. If you can read all of these comments and just ignore everything being said, while telling yourself that everyone is just negative and wrong because of their own professional failures (wtf?) you really have your blinders on.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2013 12:22     Subject: Re:Go to law school?

OP, definitely go to law school if you like the idea of going into 6 figure debt and then graduating to find that you can make . . . approximately what you make right now in HR.

I agree with the PP who advised looking into HR at a government agency if you are looking to make more $ and/or have more opportunities for promotion.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2013 12:16     Subject: Go to law school?

OP, I think you are incredibly naive and have no idea how the law world works. No, they aren't going to throw away your resume because of your school, but in an over saturated market with people who also have real world experience, your real world experience in HR plus a not so great law school is not going to give you the advantage you think it will. At all.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2013 12:08     Subject: Go to law school?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why don't you try to get a paralegal position in an employment law practice group. Your experience is relevant and you will get a taste of the more "legal" side of what you already do.


OP here. Ideally, I would aim at getting a job at one of the national employment firms -- Jackson Lewis, Seyfarth Shaw, Littler Mendolsohn are some of the ones I am aware of. I think my work experience is relevant and should outweigh any issues with the rank of my school or how I do in law school. I just have to get an interview. You have all given me something to think about, though. Even when I get hired at a big firm I may hate it and it doesn't look like I will get any money from a school to attend so I will owe a lot... #decisionsdecisions


So you would go to a law school for a hypothetical interview? Because everything else *should* then somehow fall into place. You work in HR, how can you be so clueless?


No, I would go to law school so I can eventually be a lawyer at one of these firms, not just for an interivew. Duh! Unless you know of a way I can be an attorney without 3 years of schooling? If so, tell me.

Also to the PP who said the firms won't hire me bc of school, you must have missed the part where I talked about my REAL WORLD experience. A firm is going to just throw my resume in the garbage because I didn't go to the right school, even though I have actual experience in the area they practice in? I think some of you are just overly negative and maybe have failed yourselfs professionally, I don't know. I don't mean to be rude...
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2013 12:04     Subject: Go to law school?

I feel like this is a joke post. Between thinking that HR experience is going to outweigh rank and GPA and the use of hashtags where hashtags don't work makes me think this is just some weird troll. No one is this naive are they?
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2013 12:00     Subject: Go to law school?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why don't you try to get a paralegal position in an employment law practice group. Your experience is relevant and you will get a taste of the more "legal" side of what you already do.


OP here. Ideally, I would aim at getting a job at one of the national employment firms -- Jackson Lewis, Seyfarth Shaw, Littler Mendolsohn are some of the ones I am aware of. I think my work experience is relevant and should outweigh any issues with the rank of my school or how I do in law school. I just have to get an interview. You have all given me something to think about, though. Even when I get hired at a big firm I may hate it and it doesn't look like I will get any money from a school to attend so I will owe a lot... #decisionsdecisions


Sorry, but this seems naive. I don't want to be mean, but if you can look at all of the problems with this plan that are staring you in the face and still conclude that it's a worthwhile endeavor...you may not have what it takes to be a good lawyer.


+1
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2013 11:58     Subject: Go to law school?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why don't you try to get a paralegal position in an employment law practice group. Your experience is relevant and you will get a taste of the more "legal" side of what you already do.


OP here. Ideally, I would aim at getting a job at one of the national employment firms -- Jackson Lewis, Seyfarth Shaw, Littler Mendolsohn are some of the ones I am aware of. I think my work experience is relevant and should outweigh any issues with the rank of my school or how I do in law school. I just have to get an interview. You have all given me something to think about, though. Even when I get hired at a big firm I may hate it and it doesn't look like I will get any money from a school to attend so I will owe a lot... #decisionsdecisions


So you would go to a law school for a hypothetical interview? Because everything else *should* then somehow fall into place. You work in HR, how can you be so clueless?
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2013 11:51     Subject: Go to law school?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why don't you try to get a paralegal position in an employment law practice group. Your experience is relevant and you will get a taste of the more "legal" side of what you already do.


OP here. Ideally, I would aim at getting a job at one of the national employment firms -- Jackson Lewis, Seyfarth Shaw, Littler Mendolsohn are some of the ones I am aware of. I think my work experience is relevant and should outweigh any issues with the rank of my school or how I do in law school. I just have to get an interview. You have all given me something to think about, though. Even when I get hired at a big firm I may hate it and it doesn't look like I will get any money from a school to attend so I will owe a lot... #decisionsdecisions


Sorry, but this seems naive. I don't want to be mean, but if you can look at all of the problems with this plan that are staring you in the face and still conclude that it's a worthwhile endeavor...you may not have what it takes to be a good lawyer.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2013 11:45     Subject: Re:Go to law school?

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If I do go, I'd pursue jobs working with domestic violence victims and family law (mainly because I credit my divorce lawyer with saving my life and would like to help others in the same way).


IDK, that used to be what I wanted to do, but after working at a DA's office in the DV division in a large Southern city for two years, it was not what I thought it was. The same sad people being shuffled through constantly, and most of them had been horribly abused and neglected in their youth themselves. Not that they didn't deserve punishment for DV regardless, but the whole situation was depressing and unsatisfying.


This is one of the reasons I'm not really pursuing it. I know reality won't match up to my expectations and I'm not sure if I could handle that day in and day out. I know it would take a lot of compromising and settling for the "least horrible" scenario rather than "best case" scenario and that is draining. I could see getting jaded and burnt out very quickly. I have a lot of respect for those who do that work, I just don't know if I'm capable of it.


These jobs pay very little and are w and far between. I've tried to get one for years with no luck. Graduated froma top ten school, have no debt due to family money, and still can't get one of those jobs. The funding for them is simply not there and they tend to pay under fifty.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2013 11:41     Subject: Go to law school?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why don't you try to get a paralegal position in an employment law practice group. Your experience is relevant and you will get a taste of the more "legal" side of what you already do.


OP here. Ideally, I would aim at getting a job at one of the national employment firms -- Jackson Lewis, Seyfarth Shaw, Littler Mendolsohn are some of the ones I am aware of. I think my work experience is relevant and should outweigh any issues with the rank of my school or how I do in law school. I just have to get an interview. You have all given me something to think about, though. Even when I get hired at a big firm I may hate it and it doesn't look like I will get any money from a school to attend so I will owe a lot... #decisionsdecisions


Op, you don't know what you are talking about it.

The legal hiring world is extremely snobby. The care about a) your law school and b) your law school Gpa. You are not going to get into a good law school with those numbers. You simply aren't. The LSAT is a good indicator of law school grades, so you can know that you are not going to be in the top five percent of your law school class. The firms you list will not hire you. Period.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2013 11:37     Subject: Go to law school?

Absolutely not. You will not get into a good law school. This you will not get a job, and you will be in debt, and non legal employers will not want to hire you because they will think you are a loser who wants to be a lawyer but couldnt get a job.

You are an idiot if you choose to go to law school.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2013 11:33     Subject: Go to law school?

It is getting easier to get into law school, because law school applications are plummeting. Lots of smart people are staying away unless they can get into a top ten or get a major scholarship, so some law schools are basically taking anyone they can get. But with those grades and LSAT scores, you're not going to get a scholarship, you're going to be taking on a ton of debt, and the legal market is crap right now, in DC and everywhere else. Assuming you get in, you could graduate and not be able to get a job.

I would tell you not to go unless you know exactly why you're going and what you want to do, and I would strongly suggest working in the legal field as a paralegal or something first. I happen to like practicing law, but a lot of people don't (the type of law/practice makes a big difference).

Also, before you go to law school, google Paul Campos, who writes for the blog Lawyers, Guns, and Money, and covers the legal education bubble. Brian Tamanaha is also good on this.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2013 11:12     Subject: Go to law school?

Anonymous wrote:Why don't you try to get a paralegal position in an employment law practice group. Your experience is relevant and you will get a taste of the more "legal" side of what you already do.


OP here. Ideally, I would aim at getting a job at one of the national employment firms -- Jackson Lewis, Seyfarth Shaw, Littler Mendolsohn are some of the ones I am aware of. I think my work experience is relevant and should outweigh any issues with the rank of my school or how I do in law school. I just have to get an interview. You have all given me something to think about, though. Even when I get hired at a big firm I may hate it and it doesn't look like I will get any money from a school to attend so I will owe a lot... #decisionsdecisions
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2013 10:56     Subject: Re:Go to law school?

Anonymous wrote:Do you really want to live your life saying "I wish I had . . ." That in a d of itself is a good reason to at least try it. Maybe it will change your life. Maybe it won't, but at least you won't die without ever pursuing your dream.


She already tried. She took Lsat and it wasnt very good. probably not a great talent. Its good to try but one also needs to know when to stop. She should stop now.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2013 10:48     Subject: Go to law school?

OP, you got average grades, and got a sociology degree. I am not sure what you are doing with said degree, or how it helps in the HR field. Why do you think getting a law degree will help you?? Financially? If your motivation is simply money, *sigh*, as many have posted....the legal field has a current saturation of lawyers. Not sure if that is the way to go, especially since you have no idea if you will like it. Your LSATs were not good, so, your assumption of aid is sort of laughable. A law degree, I assume at night? Will take awhile and cost you. Do you have any idea, if you get in, pay for it all, and then get a job instantly, how LONG it will take to just re-coup those additional expenses?