Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 19:01     Subject: Re:can we stop with the threads about residency cheating, already?
Kind of a silly idea, 12:35, to create a new layer of bureaucracy for a relatively unique situation more easily addressed by individual families being responsible for their choices.

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Frankly, I'm surprised that some of you think this is even a question.


The proposal, while it would address the unique situation described earlier, is really intended to address the fact there appears to be high demand for spots in DCPS schools from MD and VA residents. Commuters want to enroll their younger kids in DCPS in order to have them near during the work day. Parents in multi-generational families want to enroll their kids in DCPS near grandma's house to take advantage for free before- and after-care. etc.

The idea is not without precedent. Just think of it as a voucher program where the vouchers must be used at other public schools.

Consider this: Who really benefits most when a MD resident fraudulently registers at a DCPS school? I would argue that it is the state of MD, which gets of out of spending 10K - 15K to educate one of its children.


I'm the PP you are addressing.

The problem I have with your proposal is that I don't understand why DC needs to respond to the needs of MD or VA residents unless we have the capacity to accommodate them and they are willing to pay tuition for the conveniences you acknowledge in your post that are attractive to residents of MD and VA. But we're not talking about honorable tuition paying parents. We are talking about liars and cheaters who think they should get what they want because they want it and it would be convenient for them.

Frankly, if there aren't enough spots in DC for DC kids, why should I care about the demand of MD and VA residents. Let them start their own free preschools.

Your last point actually makes my case. Who benefits? Yes, the state of MD, which is exactly why they couldn't care less. But the more important question is, who does NOT benefit? Who is marginalized by a policy that, even accidentally, seems to prioritize the demand of MD and VA parents?

DC kids. DC families.

This isn't right.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 18:41     Subject: Re:can we stop with the threads about residency cheating, already?
Anonymous wrote:
These threads raise awareness so more people can take action, PP. That's important so more people can take action.


I'm sure 40k plus parents aren't aware of the cheating let alone this site. So how is your outreach done again?


Well, it surprises me that you need it spelled out for you, but ok.

There are 35 responses on this thread but 751 thread views. Maybe, accounting for repeat viewings (not sure how the software counts that) half of those people may be unique (statistically, this is high, but I think you'll get the point.)

That's 376 people who may have learned something from this thread. If each of those people told five other parents about the issue, 1876 people now know about residency cheaters. If those people only shared their knowledge with only three other people, 5633 people stand to learn about the problem and how important it is for them to report cheaters.

Even if only 10% of the newly educated act on their knowledge, up to 563 cheaters could be sent packing, or charged tuition.

That's how outreach works.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 17:38     Subject: can we stop with the threads about residency cheating, already?
Anonymous wrote:I drove down 12th Street NE and SE today behind a black acura with md plates and a "my student is an honor roll student at the Cluster School" bumper sticker. Made me want to ram his bumper.


How do you know they aren't paying tuition? You sound unbalanced.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 15:33     Subject: can we stop with the threads about residency cheating, already?
Anonymous wrote:Kind of a silly idea, 12:35, to create a new layer of bureaucracy for a relatively unique situation more easily addressed by individual families being responsible for their choices.

...

Frankly, I'm surprised that some of you think this is even a question.


The proposal, while it would address the unique situation described earlier, is really intended to address the fact there appears to be high demand for spots in DCPS schools from MD and VA residents. Commuters want to enroll their younger kids in DCPS in order to have them near during the work day. Parents in multi-generational families want to enroll their kids in DCPS near grandma's house to take advantage for free before- and after-care. etc.

The idea is not without precedent. Just think of it as a voucher program where the vouchers must be used at other public schools.

Consider this: Who really benefits most when a MD resident fraudulently registers at a DCPS school? I would argue that it is the state of MD, which gets of out of spending 10K - 15K to educate one of its children.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 14:26     Subject: Re:can we stop with the threads about residency cheating, already?
PP here again who needs the fraud hotline. One more thing...I'm reporting them because I see how they behave in their absolutely unruly, truly out of control class. They are not adding anything to the learning environment and I feel crummy for the kids who need to put up with their nonsense.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 14:22     Subject: can we stop with the threads about residency cheating, already?
Anonymous wrote:My friend who lives in Maryland said that she's friends with a Principal in a highly desirable DC school. Her principal friend offered her child a place at the school.

What would a principal do this? Because he/she thinks he/she can without any consequences. We need to stress to everyone that there are consequences.

Folks don't take it seriously. That's why THESE posts are so important. The next time I'm at a dinner party and the subject comes up, I will reference the frustration of Hill families (and point folks here for first hand accounts.)


You know why people don't take it that seriously? Because of posts like this. Because people hear from a friend who has a friend at "a highly desirable DC school" that that person offered a space to a non-resident. That is hardly credible. I assume that you know at which "highly desirable school" this friend of a friend works? If so, why did you not report this so that it could be investigated? If not, why did you not investigate further so that you could report the situation?

Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 14:22     Subject: Re:can we stop with the threads about residency cheating, already?
Can someone post the fraud website one more time? I'm on the DCPS website and can't find it. I'm need to report two students -- two of the worst behaved students in the school I am in every day -- who use their grandmother's address. They boast about how they live in Maryland and tell me all about going to their brother's Temple Hill high school football games. I'm sick of it.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 13:59     Subject: can we stop with the threads about residency cheating, already?
My friend who lives in Maryland said that she's friends with a Principal in a highly desirable DC school. Her principal friend offered her child a place at the school.

What would a principal do this? Because he/she thinks he/she can without any consequences. We need to stress to everyone that there are consequences.

Folks don't take it seriously. That's why THESE posts are so important. The next time I'm at a dinner party and the subject comes up, I will reference the frustration of Hill families (and point folks here for first hand accounts.)