Anonymous wrote:We had it done at the hospital (shady grove) by my OB. DH went with DS and watched as it was done the whole thing took less than 15 min. DS didn't cry and was totally fine, nursed back to sleep when they got back to the room.

Come on! Did you read the question by the OP? How were you opposed and did it anyway? Your response is completely off topic.

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Anonymous wrote:well, for the record Israel is pretty developed. They at least have universal health care and paid maternity leave.

Just sayin'.

You are right, I was thinking of mentioning Israel as an exception. But Israel is doing it for religious reasons and is a religious state, which makes it an anomaly among developed countries. My point was that in secularized countries, where only medical reasons determine the issue (and not religion or cultural habit), circumcised men are rare.

Yes, we get it. You are very preoccupied with stopping circumcision. Now, again, please offer useful and RELEVANT information for the OP or start another anti circumcision thread of your own.

Anonymous wrote:Most people don't regret circumcision vs many that regret not being circumcised.

Where are your stats on this BS claim? Please back this up or shut up. Also note that the OP did not ask you to state your opinion, she asked for people who had been in her situation to comment.

And since OP asked about it from a religious perspective, the fact that countries without Jews have a low rate isn't useful information.

Anonymous wrote:well, for the record Israel is pretty developed. They at least have universal health care and paid maternity leave.

Just sayin'.

You are right, I was thinking of mentioning Israel as an exception. But Israel is doing it for religious reasons and is a religious state, which makes it an anomaly among developed countries. My point was that in secularized countries, where only medical reasons determine the issue (and not religion or cultural habit), circumcised men are rare.

I posted on another thread about a week ago responding to a similar question.

My brother (practicing Jew, conservative) adopted his son at 2 years old and didn't get him circumcized because he didn't want to put his son through the procedure and because he didn't see it as central to his religous identity. It was a tough decision for him, but one he felt good about.

Fast forward several years, and my nephew apparently begged to be circumcized. Perhaps a combination of Hebrew school and friendships with other Jewish boys. So, my brother had my nephew circumcized after a great deal of consideration and debate between him and his wife.

My newphew is now 26 and brought it up recently. He mentioned that the procedure was painful as an older child and he wished that it had been done earlier, but it also sounded like he was glad he had it done. Anyway, another perspective, OP.

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Anonymous wrote:I hear about men being ashamed of being "different" and getting it done later in life. If you think your son will probably also want to marry Jewish maybe it's better he's cut for a womann who's already likely biased. It probably seems weird to be thinking that far ahead, but again, this decision will affect the rest of his entire life and if you feel strongly against it, I wouldn't cave in.

You are hearing that from old uncut men, because circumcision was the rule when they were growing up. Uncut babies born this year are just the same as half of their peers.

But not the same as most - an overwhelming majority - of thier Jewish peers.

People keep talking about this as though adult men don't have the option to get circumcised in this country. All they have to do is decide to do it and their local urologist will be happy to comply. It's also very easy to get insurance companies to pay for it. Clearly they experience some benefit to having a natural penis, or else they could very, very easily fulfill their desire to "be like everyone else."

As an aside, I wonder what percentage of Jews are leaving their sons intact these days. Yes, it's most assuredly a low number but my guess is that it is slowly increasing. Otherwise, many areas of our country now have a higher percentage of intact boys than cut ones. And of course, in almost every other country in the world, cut boys are very rare.

Please stop hijacking this thread. We get it. You're anticircumcision. Enough. Do you have an experience you want to share about YOUR personal experience with the matter?

Seriously. And my understanding is that Muslims do it too, and there are a lot of Muslim countries out there, so it's certainly wrong to claim that it is rare in almost every other country in the world. In fact a quick Wikipedia search says about 1/3 of men worldwide are circumcised. So whether you do or don't is up to you, I certainly don't care, but stop with the misinformation.

Not the PP and I agree that there are a lot of circumcised men in the world. Just not in Western, developed countries outside of the US. The US is an anomaly in that way.

But among Jews, an overwhelming number of men in the US ARE circumcized - an important piece, no doubt, of the OP's concern.

Again, if you have something to contribute to add to the OP's persoective to her question, please chime in. Otherwise, stop with the anti circ propaganda or start your own thread (as if the topic hadn't been beaten to death a million times before).

well, for the record Israel is pretty developed. They at least have universal health care and paid maternity leave.

Just sayin'.

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Anonymous wrote:I hear about men being ashamed of being "different" and getting it done later in life. If you think your son will probably also want to marry Jewish maybe it's better he's cut for a womann who's already likely biased. It probably seems weird to be thinking that far ahead, but again, this decision will affect the rest of his entire life and if you feel strongly against it, I wouldn't cave in.

You are hearing that from old uncut men, because circumcision was the rule when they were growing up. Uncut babies born this year are just the same as half of their peers.

But not the same as most - an overwhelming majority - of thier Jewish peers.

People keep talking about this as though adult men don't have the option to get circumcised in this country. All they have to do is decide to do it and their local urologist will be happy to comply. It's also very easy to get insurance companies to pay for it. Clearly they experience some benefit to having a natural penis, or else they could very, very easily fulfill their desire to "be like everyone else."

As an aside, I wonder what percentage of Jews are leaving their sons intact these days. Yes, it's most assuredly a low number but my guess is that it is slowly increasing. Otherwise, many areas of our country now have a higher percentage of intact boys than cut ones. And of course, in almost every other country in the world, cut boys are very rare.

Please stop hijacking this thread. We get it. You're anticircumcision. Enough. Do you have an experience you want to share about YOUR personal experience with the matter?

Seriously. And my understanding is that Muslims do it too, and there are a lot of Muslim countries out there, so it's certainly wrong to claim that it is rare in almost every other country in the world. In fact a quick Wikipedia search says about 1/3 of men worldwide are circumcised. So whether you do or don't is up to you, I certainly don't care, but stop with the misinformation.

Not the PP and I agree that there are a lot of circumcised men in the world. Just not in Western, developed countries outside of the US. The US is an anomaly in that way.

a PP here - some of these responses aren't helpful simply for the fact that OP is asking about it based on her religion. If you aren't religious, why are you sharing your opinion?

She should really talk to a religious leader and a therapist so that the outcome doesn't ruin her marriage or her family's religious identity.

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Anonymous wrote:I hear about men being ashamed of being "different" and getting it done later in life. If you think your son will probably also want to marry Jewish maybe it's better he's cut for a womann who's already likely biased. It probably seems weird to be thinking that far ahead, but again, this decision will affect the rest of his entire life and if you feel strongly against it, I wouldn't cave in.

You are hearing that from old uncut men, because circumcision was the rule when they were growing up. Uncut babies born this year are just the same as half of their peers.

But not the same as most - an overwhelming majority - of thier Jewish peers.

People keep talking about this as though adult men don't have the option to get circumcised in this country. All they have to do is decide to do it and their local urologist will be happy to comply. It's also very easy to get insurance companies to pay for it. Clearly they experience some benefit to having a natural penis, or else they could very, very easily fulfill their desire to "be like everyone else."

As an aside, I wonder what percentage of Jews are leaving their sons intact these days. Yes, it's most assuredly a low number but my guess is that it is slowly increasing. Otherwise, many areas of our country now have a higher percentage of intact boys than cut ones. And of course, in almost every other country in the world, cut boys are very rare.

Please stop hijacking this thread. We get it. You're anticircumcision. Enough. Do you have an experience you want to share about YOUR personal experience with the matter?

Seriously. And my understanding is that Muslims do it too, and there are a lot of Muslim countries out there, so it's certainly wrong to claim that it is rare in almost every other country in the world. In fact a quick Wikipedia search says about 1/3 of men worldwide are circumcised. So whether you do or don't is up to you, I certainly don't care, but stop with the misinformation.

I wasn't exactly vehemently opposed to it, but I didn't think it was necessary. Our son was a preemie and I felt like he had been through a lot, why add to it. My husband felt very, very strongly that he wanted it done. No regrets. I was there for the procedure and it was short and appeared virtually painless (no crying, no bradys or desats or other things that showed any pain).

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Anonymous wrote:I hear about men being ashamed of being "different" and getting it done later in life. If you think your son will probably also want to marry Jewish maybe it's better he's cut for a womann who's already likely biased. It probably seems weird to be thinking that far ahead, but again, this decision will affect the rest of his entire life and if you feel strongly against it, I wouldn't cave in.

You are hearing that from old uncut men, because circumcision was the rule when they were growing up. Uncut babies born this year are just the same as half of their peers.

But not the same as most - an overwhelming majority - of thier Jewish peers.

People keep talking about this as though adult men don't have the option to get circumcised in this country. All they have to do is decide to do it and their local urologist will be happy to comply. It's also very easy to get insurance companies to pay for it. Clearly they experience some benefit to having a natural penis, or else they could very, very easily fulfill their desire to "be like everyone else."

As an aside, I wonder what percentage of Jews are leaving their sons intact these days. Yes, it's most assuredly a low number but my guess is that it is slowly increasing. Otherwise, many areas of our country now have a higher percentage of intact boys than cut ones. And of course, in almost every other country in the world, cut boys are very rare.

Please stop hijacking this thread. We get it. You're anticircumcision. Enough. Do you have an experience you want to share about YOUR personal experience with the matter?

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Anonymous wrote:I hear about men being ashamed of being "different" and getting it done later in life. If you think your son will probably also want to marry Jewish maybe it's better he's cut for a womann who's already likely biased. It probably seems weird to be thinking that far ahead, but again, this decision will affect the rest of his entire life and if you feel strongly against it, I wouldn't cave in.

You are hearing that from old uncut men, because circumcision was the rule when they were growing up. Uncut babies born this year are just the same as half of their peers.

But not the same as most - an overwhelming majority - of thier Jewish peers.

Pp whose DH did it when he was 18. He wasn't ashamed. He didn't feel he was living a Jewish life according to Jewish law. There is a difference. And as a Jewish woman I wouldn't have cared about his privates in that way but would by son just because I know what my husband went thru. It's not as easy at 18. Or 30.

I personally don't care what people decide to do as long as I am also afforded that. But I think the issue of raising your child religious is 1) something to discuss as a couple before marriage and 2) relevant to the decision to have a bris. Some people don't care about the religious aspect which is important to some people.

If you have doubts and are fighting with your husband over it, get professional help as a couple. It won't go away.

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Anonymous wrote:I hear about men being ashamed of being "different" and getting it done later in life. If you think your son will probably also want to marry Jewish maybe it's better he's cut for a womann who's already likely biased. It probably seems weird to be thinking that far ahead, but again, this decision will affect the rest of his entire life and if you feel strongly against it, I wouldn't cave in.

You are hearing that from old uncut men, because circumcision was the rule when they were growing up. Uncut babies born this year are just the same as half of their peers.

But not the same as most - an overwhelming majority - of thier Jewish peers.

People keep talking about this as though adult men don't have the option to get circumcised in this country. All they have to do is decide to do it and their local urologist will be happy to comply. It's also very easy to get insurance companies to pay for it. Clearly they experience some benefit to having a natural penis, or else they could very, very easily fulfill their desire to "be like everyone else."

As an aside, I wonder what percentage of Jews are leaving their sons intact these days. Yes, it's most assuredly a low number but my guess is that it is slowly increasing. Otherwise, many areas of our country now have a higher percentage of intact boys than cut ones. And of course, in almost every other country in the world, cut boys are very rare.