Anonymous
09/19/2013 23:18
Subject: Recent Party and Parent Fined for Serving?
Bump
Anonymous
09/19/2013 11:29
Subject: Recent Party and Parent Fined for Serving?
Anonymous wrote:You have to be dumb as shit to host a party and serve underage people alcohol. It is illegal and dangerous with a huge list of liabilities. I never understand any argument for doing this, NEVER!
When I started HS my parents sat me down and explained the liability of kids drinking in our house. I scared me to death. I never had a party. I rarely went to other house parties when parents were gone because I couldn't enjoy it. I kept obsessing about how much they could lose!! Boring legal conversations can be terrifying!
Anonymous
09/19/2013 10:21
Subject: Recent Party and Parent Fined for Serving?
When my son left for college he sat down and told us all the families at school which allow drinking at parties. He reminded me of the nights he came home at 10:30 pm because he did not want to get involved in illegal drinking. His friends told him their parents don't want the US government in their house and they govern their homes as they see fit. I had no idea these parents allowed drinking in 9-12 grades. It's my fault for not asking the parents about their house rules.
Anonymous
09/18/2013 22:58
Subject: Recent Party and Parent Fined for Serving?
Anonymous wrote:Most HS studens in Europe do not drive nor have a drivers license. The test is much harder to pass and most EU countries have an 18 yr old minimum.
Take away the driving aspect and you have a different story. Sure you can get hurt walking, riding a bike or taking a taxi while drunk but it is not the same as a teen drinking and driving.
That being said, as an EU ex pat living in DC, I will tell you PLENTY of teenagers abuse alcohol. Plenty. It is a real problem. A friend of mine was drunk at a party of a friend whose parents were out of town, the flat was on the 5th floor, there was scaffolding outside for building renovations, people went out the window and were climbing on it, she fell, she died. She was 17, celebrating passing the BAC.
People have these images of European children all sipping wine with their parens at a young age and hence are all in control by the time they graduate from high school. But stupid shit involving alcohol still happens, don't romanticize it.
Agree. And in many European countries binge drinking is more common and the alcoholism rate higher than in the US. So no one really has the magic answer here (except maybe Mormons).
Anonymous
09/18/2013 14:25
Subject: Recent Party and Parent Fined for Serving?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's absolutely impossible to stop high school kids from drinking in your house. The only way to do it is to literally monitor every single cup and glass that is being used. If you have a high school party I your house, kids are drinking.
I think you meant "It's absolutely impossible to stop high schools kids from drinking in your house, if you're having a high school party in your house." Right? Because it is not mandatory to have high school parties at your house.
No, it's very easy. We have a dry house. Mom and dad don't need the calories. Kids, now adults, were never interested. And it has nothing to do with religion. I just realized that the sugar in alcohol makes me want to eat more and we're too heavy to begin with. Out of sight, out of mind.
Anonymous
09/18/2013 13:27
Subject: Recent Party and Parent Fined for Serving?
Most HS studens in Europe do not drive nor have a drivers license. The test is much harder to pass and most EU countries have an 18 yr old minimum.
Take away the driving aspect and you have a different story. Sure you can get hurt walking, riding a bike or taking a taxi while drunk but it is not the same as a teen drinking and driving.
That being said, as an EU ex pat living in DC, I will tell you PLENTY of teenagers abuse alcohol. Plenty. It is a real problem. A friend of mine was drunk at a party of a friend whose parents were out of town, the flat was on the 5th floor, there was scaffolding outside for building renovations, people went out the window and were climbing on it, she fell, she died. She was 17, celebrating passing the BAC.
People have these images of European children all sipping wine with their parens at a young age and hence are all in control by the time they graduate from high school. But stupid shit involving alcohol still happens, don't romanticize it.
Take away the driving aspect and you have a different story. Sure you can get hurt walking, riding a bike or taking a taxi while drunk but it is not the same as a teen drinking and driving.
That being said, as an EU ex pat living in DC, I will tell you PLENTY of teenagers abuse alcohol. Plenty. It is a real problem. A friend of mine was drunk at a party of a friend whose parents were out of town, the flat was on the 5th floor, there was scaffolding outside for building renovations, people went out the window and were climbing on it, she fell, she died. She was 17, celebrating passing the BAC.
People have these images of European children all sipping wine with their parens at a young age and hence are all in control by the time they graduate from high school. But stupid shit involving alcohol still happens, don't romanticize it.
Anonymous
09/18/2013 12:14
Subject: Recent Party and Parent Fined for Serving?
Anonymous wrote:The United States is one of five non-muslim nations in the world that doesn't let 18 year olds drink
I was having the same thought. Seems ever so slightly odd that the continent of Europe can handle alcohol at 18 but we just get our undies in a bundle.
Anonymous
09/18/2013 12:13
Subject: Recent Party and Parent Fined for Serving?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I cannot comprehend this country's approach to alcohol. You people are insane.
It kills people (car accidents, etc.) If it didn't, I wouldn't care so much. Five kids in my high school class of 275 were killed from drinking and driving. Back then the legal age was 18 here in DC.
Drinking and driving kills people, and it needs to be severely punished. When I was growing up in the UK no one ever drunk and drove - it was not socially acceptable, in addition to the legal consequences.
But that is very different from fining a parent $5000 because your son and his 20-year old friend had a beer while in your house. That is just madness.
Anonymous
09/18/2013 12:05
Subject: Re:Recent Party and Parent Fined for Serving?
I have preschoolers but I personally would prefer my kids to drink at a classmate's house vs in some parking lot, club or other random location. High schoolers are going to drink!
I have no problems with my boys drinking some beer with DH while watching football when they are teens. At least they will learn to hold their alcohol once they get to college.
I have no problems with my boys drinking some beer with DH while watching football when they are teens. At least they will learn to hold their alcohol once they get to college.
Anonymous
09/18/2013 11:49
Subject: Recent Party and Parent Fined for Serving?
Anonymous wrote:I cannot comprehend this country's approach to alcohol. You people are insane.
It kills people (car accidents, etc.) If it didn't, I wouldn't care so much. Five kids in my high school class of 275 were killed from drinking and driving. Back then the legal age was 18 here in DC.
Anonymous
09/18/2013 11:01
Subject: Recent Party and Parent Fined for Serving?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's absolutely impossible to stop high school kids from drinking in your house. The only way to do it is to literally monitor every single cup and glass that is being used. If you have a high school party I your house, kids are drinking.
I think you meant "It's absolutely impossible to stop high schools kids from drinking in your house, if you're having a high school party in your house." Right? Because it is not mandatory to have high school parties at your house.
+1
Anonymous
09/17/2013 21:16
Subject: Recent Party and Parent Fined for Serving?
The United States is one of five non-muslim nations in the world that doesn't let 18 year olds drink
Anonymous
09/17/2013 20:55
Subject: Recent Party and Parent Fined for Serving?
Anonymous wrote:The article posted above says the fine charged parents is now $5000 per kid. That's a pretty strong disincentive not to host a party where kids are drinking. So if the $30K figure is true, then the parents served only 6 kids.
From the article: "Underage drinking can also affect parents, as parents who host an underage drinking party now face up to a $5000 fine for each person cited, up from $1500, Morrison said."
The cost per cited child is probably higher for fewer children. They want the penalty to hurt even at just one or two kids, but not make it impossible to pay and get people foreclosed on because of the fine.
Anonymous
09/17/2013 20:47
Subject: Recent Party and Parent Fined for Serving?
I cannot comprehend this country's approach to alcohol. You people are insane.
Anonymous
09/17/2013 20:20
Subject: Recent Party and Parent Fined for Serving?
Anonymous wrote:It's absolutely impossible to stop high school kids from drinking in your house. The only way to do it is to literally monitor every single cup and glass that is being used. If you have a high school party I your house, kids are drinking.
I think you meant "It's absolutely impossible to stop high schools kids from drinking in your house, if you're having a high school party in your house." Right? Because it is not mandatory to have high school parties at your house.