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Anonymous wrote:I can't wait until we can look back and realize the silliness that is gluten-free (for non-celiacs) and the obsession with genetically modified/paleo. It takes humility to realize we weren't always right with our food choices in the past because we just didn't know enough. But so many people are CERTAIN that what they are doing today is RIGHT. PP, Marketing, yes!

As someone with Celiac, I am happy that gluten free is popular because more gluten free foods have become available. I am puzzled by people who think that they will lose weight by replacing processed food with gluten free processed food.

I had to go gluten free for a short period because my doctor wanted to see if that might be connected to some digestive troubles I had (it wasn't, and we figured out the problem). I did lose weight, but the reason I lost weight is because if you exclude ALL food with gluten, it actually greatly reduces ready-made food that you can eat. So I simply ate a lot less, because, at the time, most everything available (in vending machines, et cetera) had gluten.

So I think people mistakenly conclude that going gluten free will help them lose weight. But I think people who go gluten free tend to lose a little weight because they just end up eating so much less. Of course, with more readily available gluten free foods, that will change. and perhaps then people will see that it wasn't the "gluten free" aspect of their diet that helped them lose weight.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes - tofu, fat free, vegetarian, whole grain -- Now paying dearly.

what do you mean by paying dearly??

I mean our bodies require saturated animal fats. We have been told that they are bad and it turns out we must have them for good health. This means the whole animal, like what you get when you simmer beef bones for 24 hrs until you have a gelatinous broth. Then make your stew in that. I mean our bodies cannot use nuts, seeds, or whole grains -- they have a protective cover on them that helps the seed pass through our system and remain in tact so it can grow. These grains contain phytic acid, which binds to micronutrients, such as magnesium, calcium, iron, and prevents our bodies from absorbing these. They are micronutrients, and the body is resilient, and the effects may not be felt for decades, but then in your forties, fifties, sixties, you start developing sensitivities, allergies, auto-immune conditions such as rheumatoid arthritis, IBS and leaky gut, and cancer. I mean that we ingest almost no iodine, we have been told it is a poison, yet we suffer thyroid problems, which are cured by taking iodine. We eat bromated flour, we drink fluoride, many toxins in our foods that we have been told are good but which in fact, with a little research, you will find are not.

I have changed my diet to include meat and saturated fats, salt, iodine, micronutrients, I have cut out soy and most whole grains (still addicted to morning oatmeal!) I now soak the nuts before I eat them. I have overcome the some of sensitivities I developed-- am seeing real changes in energy and shape of my body. That's what I mean.

Not to mention all of the chemicals leached into the food from the plastic, microwavable plates. Yuck.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't wait until we can look back and realize the silliness that is gluten-free (for non-celiacs) and the obsession with genetically modified/paleo. It takes humility to realize we weren't always right with our food choices in the past because we just didn't know enough. But so many people are CERTAIN that what they are doing today is RIGHT. PP, Marketing, yes!

As someone with Celiac, I am happy that gluten free is popular because more gluten free foods have become available. I am puzzled by people who think that they will lose weight by replacing processed food with gluten free processed food.

I agree

Anonymous wrote:Yes - tofu, fat free, vegetarian, whole grain -- Now paying dearly.

what do you mean by paying dearly??

Anonymous wrote:Yes - tofu, fat free, vegetarian, whole grain -- Now paying dearly.

I'm confused. I've been a vegetarian almost all my life. You mean I can't be healthy ... ???

Anonymous wrote:I can't wait until we can look back and realize the silliness that is gluten-free (for non-celiacs) and the obsession with genetically modified/paleo. It takes humility to realize we weren't always right with our food choices in the past because we just didn't know enough. But so many people are CERTAIN that what they are doing today is RIGHT. PP, Marketing, yes!

As someone with Celiac, I am happy that gluten free is popular because more gluten free foods have become available. I am puzzled by people who think that they will lose weight by replacing processed food with gluten free processed food.

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Anonymous wrote:

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I can't wait until we can look back and realize the silliness that is gluten-free (for non-celiacs) and the obsession with genetically modified/paleo. It takes humility to realize we weren't always right with our food choices in the past because we just didn't know enough. But so many people are CERTAIN that what they are doing today is RIGHT. PP, Marketing, yes!

Kind of like all the moms on this forum ridiculing their moms and mils for stupid parenting advice. The absolutes of our generation will be seen as just as idiotic and outdated, and yet, the still ridicule.

I know, and there are PPs on here who are still embracing absolutes.

Here's the thing, if you ate that way for a while and had no negative results, what's the problem?

Humans are omnivores. Sure, we need certain vitamins, minerals, fats, proteins, et cetera, but the body has an amazing way of breaking down and absorbing foods. Different people have certain issues with certain foods. A lot of people are into raw foods now. But I don't do well with raw vegetables, except carrots. i do better with the cooked stuff.

I have a friend who thinks frozen veggies are poison. But they aren't. Sure, raw veggies have more nutrients, but that doesn't mean your body absorbs them all.

I get blood work done regularly, and it has always come out fine. I eat a variety of stuff, processed food, frozen food, fresh food, sugar, cereal, gasp, bread. I do tend to go easy on the fats, because in the past, when I've indulged in high fat food, that's when I've gained. I don't eat red meat or pork for personal reasons, but I don't take issue with people who do. Some people like different foods than I do, and some people have allergies or tendencies that I don't have.

This whole food nazi thing is ridiculous. The number one rule should be moderation and observation. If you notice certain bad reactions (indigestion, constipation, et cetera) after eating certain foods, then avoid them. If you notice you suddenly gain 10 pounds, then review/consider what you've eaten in the past few months and how much activity you've had and medications. Otherwise, don't be afraid of food. Don't even be afraid of processed food.

Frozen veggies can have more nutrients than fresh sometimes. Vegetables are picked when ripe and flash frozen then shipped. Fresh can picked early (before ripe) then shipped from South America. I am stunned at the amount of produce at WF that is shipped from South America and other places outside of the US. People who think frozen vegetables are poison are stupid.

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Anonymous



I can't wait until we can look back and realize the silliness that is gluten-free (for non-celiacs) and the obsession with genetically modified/paleo. It takes humility to realize we weren't always right with our food choices in the past because we just didn't know enough. But so many people are CERTAIN that what they are doing today is RIGHT. PP, Marketing, yes!

Kind of like all the moms on this forum ridiculing their moms and mils for stupid parenting advice. The absolutes of our generation will be seen as just as idiotic and outdated, and yet, the still ridicule.

I know, and there are PPs on here who are still embracing absolutes.

Here's the thing, if you ate that way for a while and had no negative results, what's the problem?

Humans are omnivores. Sure, we need certain vitamins, minerals, fats, proteins, et cetera, but the body has an amazing way of breaking down and absorbing foods. Different people have certain issues with certain foods. A lot of people are into raw foods now. But I don't do well with raw vegetables, except carrots. i do better with the cooked stuff.

I have a friend who thinks frozen veggies are poison. But they aren't. Sure, raw veggies have more nutrients, but that doesn't mean your body absorbs them all.

I get blood work done regularly, and it has always come out fine. I eat a variety of stuff, processed food, frozen food, fresh food, sugar, cereal, gasp, bread. I do tend to go easy on the fats, because in the past, when I've indulged in high fat food, that's when I've gained. I don't eat red meat or pork for personal reasons, but I don't take issue with people who do. Some people like different foods than I do, and some people have allergies or tendencies that I don't have.

This whole food nazi thing is ridiculous. The number one rule should be moderation and observation. If you notice certain bad reactions (indigestion, constipation, et cetera) after eating certain foods, then avoid them. If you notice you suddenly gain 10 pounds, then review/consider what you've eaten in the past few months and how much activity you've had and medications. Otherwise, don't be afraid of food. Don't even be afraid of processed food.

Anonymous wrote:Paleo is just the latest fad for people to engage in disordered eating under the cover of health.

+1

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I can't wait until we can look back and realize the silliness that is gluten-free (for non-celiacs) and the obsession with genetically modified/paleo. It takes humility to realize we weren't always right with our food choices in the past because we just didn't know enough. But so many people are CERTAIN that what they are doing today is RIGHT. PP, Marketing, yes!

Kind of like all the moms on this forum ridiculing their moms and mils for stupid parenting advice. The absolutes of our generation will be seen as just as idiotic and outdated, and yet, the still ridicule.

Anonymous wrote:I used to get a huge orange juice from the cafeteria at work almost every morning at my first job.

Quelle horreur! Imagine wanting to drink orange juice in the morning! What a terrible person you were!

Paleo is just the latest fad for people to engage in disordered eating under the cover of health.

Anonymous wrote:I can't wait until we can look back and realize the silliness that is gluten-free (for non-celiacs) and the obsession with genetically modified/paleo. It takes humility to realize we weren't always right with our food choices in the past because we just didn't know enough. But so many people are CERTAIN that what they are doing today is RIGHT. PP, Marketing, yes!

I agree with you about gluten free & paleo, but there is some science that GMO foods are responsible for the surge in food allergies. All organisms go through natural change and "modification" over time - whether you're talking about corn or human beings, the genetics do naturally evolve. But the fast pace of GMO foods compared with the extremely slow pace of genetic change/adaptation in humans, is too much to match, causing people to reject foods, and perceive them as dangerous. Allergies are basically the body's defense mechanism against things it perceives as dangerous. When the genetics of a apple or corn or whatever is manipulated so much, the body can reject it.

I can't wait until we can look back and realize the silliness that is gluten-free (for non-celiacs) and the obsession with genetically modified/paleo. It takes humility to realize we weren't always right with our food choices in the past because we just didn't know enough. But so many people are CERTAIN that what they are doing today is RIGHT. PP, Marketing, yes!