Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some had made a big deal in earlier campaigns that McCain was born in the Canal Zone and might not be eligible.

Where were they in 2008? Did he somehow become more "natural born" in the intervening time?
It seems like at a minimum they would have demanded public release of the birth certificate, just like for Obama.

Gee, it wouldn't have to do with the fact that his father and grandfather were four star admirals would it?

"Well Admiral, it looks like you're sons going to be classified as a Panamanian, that's ok with you, isn't it?"

They don't name destroyers after just anybody, they're what's known as 'water-walkers'.

Oh, if your dad is somebody big, then citizenship issues don't matter. Unless you are hispanic, in case this is how you get treated even if you are a decorated war veteran:
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?CategoryId=12395&ArticleId=658884

Thanks for reminding us that elitism still matters, and yet military service of latinos does not.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some had made a big deal in earlier campaigns that McCain was born in the Canal Zone and might not be eligible.

Where were they in 2008? Did he somehow become more "natural born" in the intervening time?
It seems like at a minimum they would have demanded public release of the birth certificate, just like for Obama.

Gee, it wouldn't have to do with the fact that his father and grandfather were four star admirals would it?

"Well Admiral, it looks like you're sons going to be classified as a Panamanian, that's ok with you, isn't it?"

They don't name destroyers after just anybody, they're what's known as 'water-walkers'.

Also, and possibly more consequentially, the Panama Canal Zone was part of the US when he was born there, conveying automatic citizenship. Not the same as being born in Canada.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some had made a big deal in earlier campaigns that McCain was born in the Canal Zone and might not be eligible.

Where were they in 2008? Did he somehow become more "natural born" in the intervening time?
It seems like at a minimum they would have demanded public release of the birth certificate, just like for Obama.

Gee, it wouldn't have to do with the fact that his father and grandfather were four star admirals would it?

"Well Admiral, it looks like you're sons going to be classified as a Panamanian, that's ok with you, isn't it?"

They don't name destroyers after just anybody, they're what's known as 'water-walkers'.

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Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:He is also a Cuban citizen and his real first name is "Rafael". I'm sure that will also go over well with the birthers.

Cubans make the best conservatives because the understand what freedom means

You are free to write in English.

Cubans make the best conservatives because Republicans hate communists more than latinos. And because they have automatic immigration rights, unlike everyone else.

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:He is also a Cuban citizen and his real first name is "Rafael". I'm sure that will also go over well with the birthers.

Cubans make the best conservatives because the understand what freedom means

You are free to write in English.

Anonymous wrote:Some had made a big deal in earlier campaigns that McCain was born in the Canal Zone and might not be eligible.

Where were they in 2008? Did he somehow become more "natural born" in the intervening time?
It seems like at a minimum they would have demanded public release of the birth certificate, just like for Obama.

Anonymous wrote:I am a conservative who is NOT a birther. It should be remembered, though, that the birther movement was begun by the Hillary Clinton campaign.

thats not true. There were some anonymous emails in the primary, no more connected to the campaign than the birthers were part of the McCain or Romney campaigns.

Conservatives really need to focus more on verifying the claims they make.

Some had made a big deal in earlier campaigns that McCain was born in the Canal Zone and might not be eligible.

Romney admits no one ever asked for his birth certificate.

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2012/08/24/mitt-romney-no-ones-asked-for-my-birth-certificate/

Obama released his birth certificate in 2008.

I am a conservative who is NOT a birther. It should be remembered, though, that the birther movement was begun by the Hillary Clinton campaign.

Well obviously the guy has a dozen reasons for not liking him, and so that is why they needed more proof of citizenship than anyone else. Because those dozen nonracial reasons are totally related to his Kenyan heritage.

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess the contrast between Cruz, of whom I am no big fan, and Obama is lost on you guys? Ted Cruz already released his birth certificate. It took Obama years to do this.

Now you can start your rant and call me a birther even though I've said nothing that would support that. I'm sure you left wingers won't disappoint.

The contrast that is lost on you is the difference between the time it took Obama to release his birth certificate and the time it took all previous presidents.

I won't call you a birther. But, I will identify you as someone who holds our first black president to a higher standard than previous presidents.

Wow. What a douchebag comment. You imply I am racist. What if I my bias is against anything to do with the number 44? That is just as random as saying I am biased against the president because he is black. What if I biased against him because he is half caucasion?

I think President Obama is awful for about a dozen reasons. Not one of those reasons has anything to do with his race. You don't know me, you ass. Don't put that crap on me when you have no idea about who I am. I guess it is unreasonable to expect a discussion to stay on topic here. Its because you are totally unwilling to moderate these discussion threads to keep them on a topic.

LOL. Did your little feelings get hurt? Okay, you tell me why Obama, alone of US presidents, needed to release his birth certificate?

Tea party candidate

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess the contrast between Cruz, of whom I am no big fan, and Obama is lost on you guys? Ted Cruz already released his birth certificate. It took Obama years to do this.

Now you can start your rant and call me a birther even though I've said nothing that would support that. I'm sure you left wingers won't disappoint.

The contrast that is lost on you is the difference between the time it took Obama to release his birth certificate and the time it took all previous presidents.

I won't call you a birther. But, I will identify you as someone who holds our first black president to a higher standard than previous presidents.

Wow. What a douchebag comment. You imply I am racist. What if I my bias is against anything to do with the number 44? That is just as random as saying I am biased against the president because he is black. What if I biased against him because he is half caucasion?

I think President Obama is awful for about a dozen reasons. Not one of those reasons has anything to do with his race. You don't know me, you ass. Don't put that crap on me when you have no idea about who I am. I guess it is unreasonable to expect a discussion to stay on topic here. Its because you are totally unwilling to moderate these discussion threads to keep them on a topic.

If you think that bias against blacks and the number 44 are equally probable, then you are a total idiot.

The idea that the issue with Obama was solely his delay in releasing the birth certificate is provably false. First of all, because he released the short form in 2008. Go look at what Cruz released. Same thing.

And second, the Birthers did not require one of the many other presidential candidates, only ones who they suspect are foreign born but who are not John McCain.

Sorry but you are just doing more and more to prove your bias here. The Birthers complaint is that Obama dud not qualify for office because they think he was born outside of America. Now they have positive proof that the tea party and update absolutely meets that standard.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess the contrast between Cruz, of whom I am no big fan, and Obama is lost on you guys? Ted Cruz already released his birth certificate. It took Obama years to do this.

Now you can start your rant and call me a birther even though I've said nothing that would support that. I'm sure you left wingers won't disappoint.

The contrast that is lost on you is the difference between the time it took Obama to release his birth certificate and the time it took all previous presidents.

I won't call you a birther. But, I will identify you as someone who holds our first black president to a higher standard than previous presidents.

Wow. What a douchebag comment. You imply I am racist. What if I my bias is against anything to do with the number 44? That is just as random as saying I am biased against the president because he is black. What if I biased against him because he is half caucasion?

I think President Obama is awful for about a dozen reasons. Not one of those reasons has anything to do with his race. You don't know me, you ass. Don't put that crap on me when you have no idea about who I am. I guess it is unreasonable to expect a discussion to stay on topic here. Its because you are totally unwilling to moderate these discussion threads to keep them on a topic.