Anonymous
08/16/2013 16:12
Subject: NAACP demands DOJ, Secret Service investigate rodeo clown/Obama incident
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Was it also bad taste when a Bush 41 mask was used at a rodeo event and a bull ran over the dummy wearing the mask?
Should the NAACP have asked that this matter be investigated for inciting violence?
Was it also bad taste when Barak Obama was on SNL wearing a Barak Obama mask?
Does the NAACP have so little to do that they actually care about this?
Let's concede that all of those other incidents were national tragedies for which we should have annual moments of silence. Would that make Obama rodeo clown okay?
You inverted the logic there, Jeff. The takeaway from that is that the Obama Rodeo Clown is a non-issue. Just like it was a non-issue when a Bush 41 mask was used by some rodeo clowns. People make fun of Presidents all the time. For the NAACP to make a big deal of this makes them seem like morons. I'd rather see them do something good for some inner city crap hole than make noise about this stupid issue.
We don't live in a place where they stab you to death if you make an obnoxious cartoon of the President or the prophet Mohammed. That is a good thing, no?
Anonymous
08/16/2013 16:06
Subject: Re:NAACP demands DOJ, Secret Service investigate rodeo clown/Obama incident
Once again, it was in poor taste as were the incidents involving Bush. However, the NAACP is way out of line on this.
jsteele
08/16/2013 16:03
Subject: NAACP demands DOJ, Secret Service investigate rodeo clown/Obama incident
Anonymous wrote:Was it also bad taste when a Bush 41 mask was used at a rodeo event and a bull ran over the dummy wearing the mask?
Should the NAACP have asked that this matter be investigated for inciting violence?
Was it also bad taste when Barak Obama was on SNL wearing a Barak Obama mask?
Does the NAACP have so little to do that they actually care about this?
Let's concede that all of those other incidents were national tragedies for which we should have annual moments of silence. Would that make Obama rodeo clown okay?
Anonymous
08/16/2013 16:03
Subject: NAACP demands DOJ, Secret Service investigate rodeo clown/Obama incident
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:as a brown person, if i had been present at this rodeo, i'd be pretty frightened for my safety. the apologists on this thread need a serious barometer re-set.
Were the white people frightened for their safety at the events where Bush's head was placed on a pike?
You keep bringing this up. You are aware that this was shown for little more than a split second on Game of Thrones, correct? The vast majority of viewers -- white or otherwise -- did not recognize Bush. While the clown was made to look like Obama, the Bush head was costumed to fit the scene. Anyone watching the show who did recognize Bush was likely at home on their couch and only had to fear whether they could hold out to the end of the show to take a bathroom break. This is a huge contrast to being in the middle of a revved-up crowd. It is very sad that you do not seem to understand that distinction.
And the concert. And the burning in effigy. And...
Anonymous
08/16/2013 16:01
Subject: NAACP demands DOJ, Secret Service investigate rodeo clown/Obama incident
Was it also bad taste when a Bush 41 mask was used at a rodeo event and a bull ran over the dummy wearing the mask?
Should the NAACP have asked that this matter be investigated for inciting violence?
Was it also bad taste when Barak Obama was on SNL wearing a Barak Obama mask?
Does the NAACP have so little to do that they actually care about this?
Should the NAACP have asked that this matter be investigated for inciting violence?
Was it also bad taste when Barak Obama was on SNL wearing a Barak Obama mask?
Does the NAACP have so little to do that they actually care about this?
jsteele
08/16/2013 15:46
Subject: Re:NAACP demands DOJ, Secret Service investigate rodeo clown/Obama incident
Anonymous wrote:If they are charging them with inciting violence, it is quite relevant.
No it is not. One does not have to successfully incite violence to be charged with inciting violence.
But, just to be clear, my only interest here is accuracy. I personally don't believe the incident with the clown was an incitement of violence. I do, however, believe it was in very bad taste and should not have taken place at a public-funded event. I could understand if people of color in the audience were fearful of violence and don't believe such feelings would have been misplaced.
Anonymous
08/16/2013 15:45
Subject: NAACP demands DOJ, Secret Service investigate rodeo clown/Obama incident
Anonymous wrote:And just how did his act possibly incite violence?
I didnt.
Anonymous
08/16/2013 15:44
Subject: NAACP demands DOJ, Secret Service investigate rodeo clown/Obama incident
And just how did his act possibly incite violence?
Anonymous
08/16/2013 15:40
Subject: NAACP demands DOJ, Secret Service investigate rodeo clown/Obama incident
Liberals burning Bush in effigy = free speech
Rodeo clown trying to be funny with mask = great injustice
Hypocrisy knows no bounds to the left.
Rodeo clown trying to be funny with mask = great injustice
Hypocrisy knows no bounds to the left.
Anonymous
08/16/2013 15:39
Subject: NAACP demands DOJ, Secret Service investigate rodeo clown/Obama incident
brown PP here. the clown had a broom stuck up the back of his coat. if you don't get how crass and symbolic this is of an ugly past in this country, you are lost. what also scares me is that i probably run into people like you day in and day out as i go about my business.
Anonymous
08/16/2013 15:38
Subject: NAACP demands DOJ, Secret Service investigate rodeo clown/Obama incident
Missouri NAACP wants the DOJ to investigate it as a hate crime. This is absurd.
http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2013/08/15/head-of-n-a-a-c-p-in-missouri-calls-obama-clown-mask-stunt-a-hate-crime/
http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2013/08/15/head-of-n-a-a-c-p-in-missouri-calls-obama-clown-mask-stunt-a-hate-crime/
Anonymous
08/16/2013 15:33
Subject: Re:NAACP demands DOJ, Secret Service investigate rodeo clown/Obama incident
If they are charging them with inciting violence, it is quite relevant.
jsteele
08/16/2013 15:26
Subject: Re:NAACP demands DOJ, Secret Service investigate rodeo clown/Obama incident
Anonymous wrote:Was there violence?
Irrelevant and simply another attempt to avoid discussing the topic at hand.
Anonymous
08/16/2013 15:22
Subject: Re:NAACP demands DOJ, Secret Service investigate rodeo clown/Obama incident
Was there violence?
jsteele
08/16/2013 15:20
Subject: Re:NAACP demands DOJ, Secret Service investigate rodeo clown/Obama incident
Anonymous wrote:Do I like the rodeo clown? NO
Do I think they should have done this? Probably not.
Should this be investigated as a "hate crime" Absolutely not.
The NAACP is asking it to be investigated for incitement of violence. I will probably need to clarify this again a few posts from now.