Anonymous
08/14/2013 08:20
Subject: Ummm, Parent of DS Friend told me I was using religious propaganda on their son...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, here's what I think:
1. We are non-religious. If I learned that my child had been shown Veggie Tales on a playdate, I would be upset. I don't like being proselytized, and I especially don't want my child being proselytized.
2. However, my reaction would be, "Since we are non-religious, do you think that in future you could not show my child Veggie Tales on playdates?", rather than "That's it, you horrible person, no playdates ever again!".
If you apologized sincerely, then I think that the next step is up to her, to accept your apology or not.
Oh look, the mom from the playdate just showed up! The horrors of Veggie Tales. Given the lyrics of Silly Songs with Larry - I have no clue what your idea of proselytizing is... Talking about cucumbers? Hairbrushes?
http://www.songlyrics.com/veggietales/silly-songs-with-larry/
Here are the lyrics to the album - perhaps you could point out as someone who is non-religious what is so offensive about these lyrics?
Nope, I am the PP. I am not the mother from the playdate.
I have not ever seen a Veggie Tales, so I have no idea about whether each individual Veggie Tales has Christian content. But Veggie Tales, in general, being Christian is not some silly idea that I made up.
http://veggietales.com/vtmain/whoweare/
So if I am raising my kids as Christians and I hear vaguely that something has non Christian ideas in it, I should just immediately decide it is wrong and harmful to my child without knowing anything about it? Interesting approach you have. You may hate everything Christian or that has faith or mention of God but calling Silly Songs with Larry proselytizing is just laughable.
Anonymous
08/14/2013 08:20
Subject: Ummm, Parent of DS Friend told me I was using religious propaganda on their son...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I say - send her a brief email that this was all a misunderstanding and make sure you tell her that you are NOT religious at all. Also, let her know that her overreaction hurt your feelings.
This seems like the wrong response to me, particularly the "make sure you tell her that you are NOT religious at all" bit. Even if she were religious, the reaction by the other parent was over the top and inappropriate. Saying something like "don't worry, it's OK, I'm not religious" sort of suggests that atheism is acceptable or desirable, which could compound the problem is the other family is religious.
Atheism is acceptable, PP. Being non-religious is acceptable.
Not really. Atheists are not good people, fundamentally.
Are you a troll, or are you really that ignorant?
Not ignorant. I mean, the mother at the center of this story here is proof enough of my observation.
Anonymous
08/14/2013 08:17
Subject: Ummm, Parent of DS Friend told me I was using religious propaganda on their son...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, here's what I think:
1. We are non-religious. If I learned that my child had been shown Veggie Tales on a playdate, I would be upset. I don't like being proselytized, and I especially don't want my child being proselytized.
2. However, my reaction would be, "Since we are non-religious, do you think that in future you could not show my child Veggie Tales on playdates?", rather than "That's it, you horrible person, no playdates ever again!".
If you apologized sincerely, then I think that the next step is up to her, to accept your apology or not.
Oh look, the mom from the playdate just showed up! The horrors of Veggie Tales. Given the lyrics of Silly Songs with Larry - I have no clue what your idea of proselytizing is... Talking about cucumbers? Hairbrushes?
http://www.songlyrics.com/veggietales/silly-songs-with-larry/
Here are the lyrics to the album - perhaps you could point out as someone who is non-religious what is so offensive about these lyrics?
Nope, I am the PP. I am not the mother from the playdate.
I have not ever seen a Veggie Tales, so I have no idea about whether each individual Veggie Tales has Christian content. But Veggie Tales, in general, being Christian is not some silly idea that I made up.
http://veggietales.com/vtmain/whoweare/
So, you don't know anything about them so thought you'd do some Googling and that makes you the expert?
BTW, isn't it horrible to tell children that God made them very special and that He loves them very much? Terrible isn't it? Such nasty things for little ears to hear.
Anonymous
08/14/2013 08:17
Subject: Ummm, Parent of DS Friend told me I was using religious propaganda on their son...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I say - send her a brief email that this was all a misunderstanding and make sure you tell her that you are NOT religious at all. Also, let her know that her overreaction hurt your feelings.
This seems like the wrong response to me, particularly the "make sure you tell her that you are NOT religious at all" bit. Even if she were religious, the reaction by the other parent was over the top and inappropriate. Saying something like "don't worry, it's OK, I'm not religious" sort of suggests that atheism is acceptable or desirable, which could compound the problem is the other family is religious.
Atheism is acceptable, PP. Being non-religious is acceptable.
Not really. Atheists are not good people, fundamentally.
Are you a troll, or are you really that ignorant?
Anonymous
08/14/2013 08:16
Subject: Ummm, Parent of DS Friend told me I was using religious propaganda on their son...
I agree with the PPs saying this woman sounds like a nutball, and that other parents from your neighborhood are probably well aware of that. If she tries to warn other parents away from you with this story, she'll be the one who comes off badly.
Anonymous
08/14/2013 08:15
Subject: Ummm, Parent of DS Friend told me I was using religious propaganda on their son...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I say - send her a brief email that this was all a misunderstanding and make sure you tell her that you are NOT religious at all. Also, let her know that her overreaction hurt your feelings.
This seems like the wrong response to me, particularly the "make sure you tell her that you are NOT religious at all" bit. Even if she were religious, the reaction by the other parent was over the top and inappropriate. Saying something like "don't worry, it's OK, I'm not religious" sort of suggests that atheism is acceptable or desirable, which could compound the problem is the other family is religious.
Atheism is acceptable, PP. Being non-religious is acceptable.
Not really. Atheists are not good people, fundamentally.
Anonymous
08/14/2013 08:15
Subject: Ummm, Parent of DS Friend told me I was using religious propaganda on their son...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, here's what I think:
1. We are non-religious. If I learned that my child had been shown Veggie Tales on a playdate, I would be upset. I don't like being proselytized, and I especially don't want my child being proselytized.
2. However, my reaction would be, "Since we are non-religious, do you think that in future you could not show my child Veggie Tales on playdates?", rather than "That's it, you horrible person, no playdates ever again!".
If you apologized sincerely, then I think that the next step is up to her, to accept your apology or not.
Oh look, the mom from the playdate just showed up! The horrors of Veggie Tales. Given the lyrics of Silly Songs with Larry - I have no clue what your idea of proselytizing is... Talking about cucumbers? Hairbrushes?
http://www.songlyrics.com/veggietales/silly-songs-with-larry/
Here are the lyrics to the album - perhaps you could point out as someone who is non-religious what is so offensive about these lyrics?
Nope, I am the PP. I am not the mother from the playdate.
I have not ever seen a Veggie Tales, so I have no idea about whether each individual Veggie Tales has Christian content. But Veggie Tales, in general, being Christian is not some silly idea that I made up.
http://veggietales.com/vtmain/whoweare/
Anonymous
08/14/2013 08:07
Subject: Ummm, Parent of DS Friend told me I was using religious propaganda on their son...
Anonymous wrote:OP, here's what I think:
1. We are non-religious. If I learned that my child had been shown Veggie Tales on a playdate, I would be upset. I don't like being proselytized, and I especially don't want my child being proselytized.
2. However, my reaction would be, "Since we are non-religious, do you think that in future you could not show my child Veggie Tales on playdates?", rather than "That's it, you horrible person, no playdates ever again!".
If you apologized sincerely, then I think that the next step is up to her, to accept your apology or not.
Oh look, the mom from the playdate just showed up! The horrors of Veggie Tales. Given the lyrics of Silly Songs with Larry - I have no clue what your idea of proselytizing is... Talking about cucumbers? Hairbrushes?
http://www.songlyrics.com/veggietales/silly-songs-with-larry/
Here are the lyrics to the album - perhaps you could point out as someone who is non-religious what is so offensive about these lyrics?
Anonymous
08/14/2013 08:00
Subject: Re:Ummm, Parent of DS Friend told me I was using religious propaganda on their son...
Honestly I would be kind of annoyed that you showed a DVD at a playdate. The whole point is for the kids to entertain each other, not to have more screen time.
Anonymous
08/14/2013 07:56
Subject: Ummm, Parent of DS Friend told me I was using religious propaganda on their son...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I say - send her a brief email that this was all a misunderstanding and make sure you tell her that you are NOT religious at all. Also, let her know that her overreaction hurt your feelings.
This seems like the wrong response to me, particularly the "make sure you tell her that you are NOT religious at all" bit. Even if she were religious, the reaction by the other parent was over the top and inappropriate. Saying something like "don't worry, it's OK, I'm not religious" sort of suggests that atheism is acceptable or desirable, which could compound the problem is the other family is religious.
Atheism is acceptable, PP. Being non-religious is acceptable.
Anonymous
08/14/2013 07:51
Subject: Ummm, Parent of DS Friend told me I was using religious propaganda on their son...
She doesn't respect anyone who watches Veggie Tales
You probably aren't a good match and it's probably comes through in other ways.
I think her reaction to you was extreme.
You probably aren't a good match and it's probably comes through in other ways.
I think her reaction to you was extreme.
Anonymous
08/14/2013 07:47
Subject: Ummm, Parent of DS Friend told me I was using religious propaganda on their son...
I wouldn't email now to apologize. Clearly, she's at least a little nuts. Let her cool off, and she may come around once school has been in session for awhile if the boys want to play together outside of school again sometime. Especially once she shuns all the other parents in class and needs to start over 
Anonymous
08/14/2013 07:33
Subject: Ummm, Parent of DS Friend told me I was using religious propaganda on their son...
She sounds like a crazy bitch. I'm sorry OP. I don't think you did anything wrong, and you handled the situation well.
Anonymous
08/14/2013 07:30
Subject: Ummm, Parent of DS Friend told me I was using religious propaganda on their son...
I feel sorry for her kid. Could you imagine having a mom like that?
Anonymous
08/14/2013 07:27
Subject: Ummm, Parent of DS Friend told me I was using religious propaganda on their son...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, here's what I think:
1. We are non-religious. If I learned that my child had been shown Veggie Tales on a playdate, I would be upset. I don't like being proselytized, and I especially don't want my child being proselytized.
2. However, my reaction would be, "Since we are non-religious, do you think that in future you could not show my child Veggie Tales on playdates?", rather than "That's it, you horrible person, no playdates ever again!".
If you apologized sincerely, then I think that the next step is up to her, to accept your apology or not.
What does "non-religious" mean?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/nonreligious