Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The adoptive parents went into this well knowing the dad may contest. They fenagled and skirted around the law and took their chances. When dad found out 4 months after the birth (the Adoptive parents waited this time to most likely strengthen their claim to the baby). Dad did contest and rather than give the baby back...they held it up for over 2 years. The adoptive parents took this baby in a deceptive way and held on to their "purchase" for as long as possible. They have and are hurting this kid as they are entitled assholes.

This is just plain rewriting the facts.

Dad contested AFTER doing NOTHING to have a relationship with the baby. NOT.ONE.DAMN.THING. And he initially signed the documents when the birth parents finally found him four months later! Why you think they somehow knew that he actually wanted to raise this child, when he had done NOTHING to indicate that, is beyond ludicrous. There was nothing deceptive on the adoptive parents' end. He changed his mind after the fact.

You do know that birth parents do have a time period to change their minds correct?
The bio-mom did a real job on this one...
The adoptive parents knew at 4 months that man wanted his child
Lord have mercy on them all

So, do you think that Native Americans rapists should have rights to their offspring? Cause you seem to think that the 1/256 percentage of Cherokee blood this guy had trumps the fact that he gave up his rights to the child. Can Indian tribes always petition to control those adoptions?

Dusten Brown abused the system because he changed his mind.

This.

From his actions and statements, it's clear the bio father has been more interested in selfish pride and control, than selfless interest of the girl. It might be difficult for the girl to transition back to the Capobianco's (or it may not be difficult at all), but she should have never been given to her deadbeat biological father in the first place after he basically abdicated the girl.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The adoptive parents went into this well knowing the dad may contest. They fenagled and skirted around the law and took their chances. When dad found out 4 months after the birth (the Adoptive parents waited this time to most likely strengthen their claim to the baby). Dad did contest and rather than give the baby back...they held it up for over 2 years. The adoptive parents took this baby in a deceptive way and held on to their "purchase" for as long as possible. They have and are hurting this kid as they are entitled assholes.

This is just plain rewriting the facts.

Dad contested AFTER doing NOTHING to have a relationship with the baby. NOT.ONE.DAMN.THING. And he initially signed the documents when the birth parents finally found him four months later! Why you think they somehow knew that he actually wanted to raise this child, when he had done NOTHING to indicate that, is beyond ludicrous. There was nothing deceptive on the adoptive parents' end. He changed his mind after the fact.

You do know that birth parents do have a time period to change their minds correct?
The bio-mom did a real job on this one...
The adoptive parents knew at 4 months that man wanted his child
Lord have mercy on them all

So, do you think that Native Americans rapists should have rights to their offspring? Cause you seem to think that the 1/256 percentage of Cherokee blood this guy had trumps the fact that he gave up his rights to the child. Can Indian tribes always petition to control those adoptions?

Dusten Brown abused the system because he changed his mind.

WTF are you talking about rapists?
I was speaking about bio parents having a period of time to rescind once they give up for adoption
You are a NUTTER!

Oh, I see you didn't read the link to the NPR report. Go ahead, continue on your ignorant little way.

And no, I don't think they should have a period of time to rescind.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The adoptive parents went into this well knowing the dad may contest. They fenagled and skirted around the law and took their chances. When dad found out 4 months after the birth (the Adoptive parents waited this time to most likely strengthen their claim to the baby). Dad did contest and rather than give the baby back...they held it up for over 2 years. The adoptive parents took this baby in a deceptive way and held on to their "purchase" for as long as possible. They have and are hurting this kid as they are entitled assholes.

This is just plain rewriting the facts.

Dad contested AFTER doing NOTHING to have a relationship with the baby. NOT.ONE.DAMN.THING. And he initially signed the documents when the birth parents finally found him four months later! Why you think they somehow knew that he actually wanted to raise this child, when he had done NOTHING to indicate that, is beyond ludicrous. There was nothing deceptive on the adoptive parents' end. He changed his mind after the fact.

You do know that birth parents do have a time period to change their minds correct?
The bio-mom did a real job on this one...
The adoptive parents knew at 4 months that man wanted his child
Lord have mercy on them all

So, do you think that Native Americans rapists should have rights to their offspring? Cause you seem to think that the 1/256 percentage of Cherokee blood this guy had trumps the fact that he gave up his rights to the child. Can Indian tribes always petition to control those adoptions?

Dusten Brown abused the system because he changed his mind.

WTF are you talking about rapists?
I was speaking about bio parents having a period of time to rescind once they give up for adoption
You are a NUTTER!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The adoptive parents went into this well knowing the dad may contest. They fenagled and skirted around the law and took their chances. When dad found out 4 months after the birth (the Adoptive parents waited this time to most likely strengthen their claim to the baby). Dad did contest and rather than give the baby back...they held it up for over 2 years. The adoptive parents took this baby in a deceptive way and held on to their "purchase" for as long as possible. They have and are hurting this kid as they are entitled assholes.

This is just plain rewriting the facts.

Dad contested AFTER doing NOTHING to have a relationship with the baby. NOT.ONE.DAMN.THING. And he initially signed the documents when the birth parents finally found him four months later! Why you think they somehow knew that he actually wanted to raise this child, when he had done NOTHING to indicate that, is beyond ludicrous. There was nothing deceptive on the adoptive parents' end. He changed his mind after the fact.

You do know that birth parents do have a time period to change their minds correct?
The bio-mom did a real job on this one...
The adoptive parents knew at 4 months that man wanted his child
Lord have mercy on them all

So, do you think that Native Americans rapists should have rights to their offspring? Cause you seem to think that the 1/256 percentage of Cherokee blood this guy had trumps the fact that he gave up his rights to the child. Can Indian tribes always petition to control those adoptions?

Dusten Brown abused the system because he changed his mind.

This is a pretty reasonable view of the case. Seems logical to me that the adoptive parents would win.

http://www.npr.org/2013/04/16/177327391/adoption-case-brings-rare-family-law-dispute-to-high-court

b/c Veronica will be SO MUCH BETTER off with her biological idiots than her stable adoptive parents

How can anyone support the bio parents at this point?

unbelievable

Anonymous wrote:Baby Veronica's kidnappers (the Capobianco's) were successfully able to finalize their purchase and will now be legally able to rip her away from her father (Dusten Brown) and extended family (including a 9 year old sister) against their wishes. Money can buy anything after all. Karma will come back hard on this one. The USA is going downhill fast!

What is wrong with you?

Father's a goddamn deadbeat - And you seem like an idiot, too.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The adoptive parents went into this well knowing the dad may contest. They fenagled and skirted around the law and took their chances. When dad found out 4 months after the birth (the Adoptive parents waited this time to most likely strengthen their claim to the baby). Dad did contest and rather than give the baby back...they held it up for over 2 years. The adoptive parents took this baby in a deceptive way and held on to their "purchase" for as long as possible. They have and are hurting this kid as they are entitled assholes.

This is just plain rewriting the facts.

Dad contested AFTER doing NOTHING to have a relationship with the baby. NOT.ONE.DAMN.THING. And he initially signed the documents when the birth parents finally found him four months later! Why you think they somehow knew that he actually wanted to raise this child, when he had done NOTHING to indicate that, is beyond ludicrous. There was nothing deceptive on the adoptive parents' end. He changed his mind after the fact.

You do know that birth parents do have a time period to change their minds correct?
The bio-mom did a real job on this one...
The adoptive parents knew at 4 months that man wanted his child
Lord have mercy on them all

At the point the bio-mom was making these arrangements, the father had made it very clear that he had no interest in supporting the child unless she married him. So she had a choice, given that she felt she could not support a third child---do an open adoption with people who could support her child and grant her visitation, or marry a guy who had just given her that type of ultimatum as a condition to financially supporting his own child.

I think the bigger issue was that when the baby was born and the dad changed his mind about involvement---the parties should have sat down and tried to come up with something that was reasonable and less damaging to the child than what transpired. I can understand how bio-mom, if she still wants contact with her daughter---would look to continue to support the open adoption---rather than say good-bye to her child by granting sole custody to the dad.

Anonymous wrote:The adoptive parents went into this well knowing the dad may contest. They fenagled and skirted around the law and took their chances. When dad found out 4 months after the birth (the Adoptive parents waited this time to most likely strengthen their claim to the baby). Dad did contest and rather than give the baby back...they held it up for over 2 years. The adoptive parents took this baby in a deceptive way and held on to their "purchase" for as long as possible. They have and are hurting this kid as they are entitled assholes.

This is just plain rewriting the facts.

Dad contested AFTER doing NOTHING to have a relationship with the baby. NOT.ONE.DAMN.THING. And he initially signed the documents when the birth parents finally found him four months later! Why you think they somehow knew that he actually wanted to raise this child, when he had done NOTHING to indicate that, is beyond ludicrous. There was nothing deceptive on the adoptive parents' end. He changed his mind after the fact.

The bio mom certainly was not thinking of the dad when she arranged this and left him out of the loop.

The point that gets short shrift is that the bio mom chose the adoptive family because they were willing to do an open adoption. I used to think the bio-dad was completely in the right until I focused on that point.

At the point the father contested the adoption, then the discussion should have recognized that it wasn't just the bio-dad vs. adoptive parents, but bio-dad vs. adoptive parents and still involved bio-mom.

To award the father sole custody cuts the bio-mom out of the child's life---a result which was never intended by the adoption as it was structured.

It seems like none of the adults have clearly thought through the long-term mental health impacts on the child. Wouldn't it be best for the child to grow up knowing that both of her biological parents loved her enough to try to get her the best home each thought possible. The only way to do that is for all the parties to work together for the best interests of the child with open visitation all round, regardless of who is ultimately the custodial parent(s). I would hope that if the adoptive parents ultimately prevail, they and the bio-mom will not be as vengeful as the biological dad has apparently been in terms of not permitting access. A child is not a zero-sum game.

The birth mother should also be reprimanded for lying to the father and selling her kid. She should have no say in this situation whatsoever. She is the most selfish of all. This kid will be so screwed up if she has to leave her dad and family. She will hater the Capobianco's for stealing her. She will hate her bio mom for selling her. She will know her bio dad fought for her. She is the one who loses out in all of this.

The adoptive parents went into this well knowing the dad may contest. They fenagled and skirted around the law and took their chances. When dad found out 4 months after the birth (the Adoptive parents waited this time to most likely strengthen their claim to the baby). Dad did contest and rather than give the baby back...they held it up for over 2 years. The adoptive parents took this baby in a deceptive way and held on to their "purchase" for as long as possible. They have and are hurting this kid as they are entitled assholes.

I think the baby should have been returned to the father at 4 months.

i think the way the custody exchange happened at 27 months SUCKED. At that point it should have been a slow transition.

At this point I think they need to back up and look at Veronicas best interest and not at who is legally right. She has been with her dad for 18 months it is in her best interest to remain there.

I feel bad for the baby/ little girl noone seems to care about whats best for her only who is legally right.