Anonymous
08/01/2013 15:38
Subject: Feds Income
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Federal salaries are a matter of public record. The amounts listed are not the amount actually paid or received in a given year, so don't show what's on a W-2 for example.
What is the specific identity theft risk, 19:40? For years every federal employee's job title and Grade/step have been public information. This merely attaches the current salary for that level and includes any bonus paid.
I was a fed for 26 yrs. including being a ethics official for a large office. I'm not terribly upset about this, as courts have said, sunshine is the best disinfectant and it's useful to be able to see this information.
It's public money and public information.
Not PP but I disagree with identifying salaries for individuals by name, especially for workers in the lower pay grades. In reality, it's probably more useful for federal employees as a tool to negotiate compensation relative to their peers.
I think it is a security risk for people and a violation of privacy. Not everybody needs to know where you work. Salary I agree is ok but your agency and location not so much. At the end of the day though, if you know someone's GS level and location, you know their salary range already. It creeps me out that my ex can find out where I am during the day.
C'mon, grow up.
This does not tell where you work. It may give a city. It correlates to a GS Grade & step, which has always been publicly available information.
Stop being a baby and whining.
Signed,
a 26 yr. Fed
I love how retired Feds are like "it's always been public." Well, yeah, but it used to be that a person had to make an effort to get the information and tie it to a particular person. It wasn't like your inlaws could just google your name and have your specific salary information.
+1, seriously what prick.
Anonymous
08/01/2013 15:27
Subject: Feds Income
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Federal salaries are a matter of public record. The amounts listed are not the amount actually paid or received in a given year, so don't show what's on a W-2 for example.
What is the specific identity theft risk, 19:40? For years every federal employee's job title and Grade/step have been public information. This merely attaches the current salary for that level and includes any bonus paid.
I was a fed for 26 yrs. including being a ethics official for a large office. I'm not terribly upset about this, as courts have said, sunshine is the best disinfectant and it's useful to be able to see this information.
It's public money and public information.
Not PP but I disagree with identifying salaries for individuals by name, especially for workers in the lower pay grades. In reality, it's probably more useful for federal employees as a tool to negotiate compensation relative to their peers.
I think it is a security risk for people and a violation of privacy. Not everybody needs to know where you work. Salary I agree is ok but your agency and location not so much. At the end of the day though, if you know someone's GS level and location, you know their salary range already. It creeps me out that my ex can find out where I am during the day.
C'mon, grow up.
This does not tell where you work. It may give a city. It correlates to a GS Grade & step, which has always been publicly available information.
Stop being a baby and whining.
Signed,
a 26 yr. Fed
I love how retired Feds are like "it's always been public." Well, yeah, but it used to be that a person had to make an effort to get the information and tie it to a particular person. It wasn't like your inlaws could just google your name and have your specific salary information.
Anonymous
08/01/2013 15:24
Subject: Feds Income
Anonymous wrote:p.s. quit whining, those of you complaining about your salaries being posted. I'm a 26 yr. Fed (recently retired) and your grade and step have always been public information disclosable under FOIA.
Stop whining, it's public information.
Go ahead, sue under the Privacy Act and prove yourself to be an uninformed fool.
But there's a big difference between jobs, grade and step salaries being public information and your name being published on the internet with your location and salary.
I'm fine with them posting job titles and the grade and step and salary that goes with it. But listing names with salaries online goes too far in my view.
Anonymous
08/01/2013 14:46
Subject: Feds Income
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Federal salaries are a matter of public record. The amounts listed are not the amount actually paid or received in a given year, so don't show what's on a W-2 for example.
What is the specific identity theft risk, 19:40? For years every federal employee's job title and Grade/step have been public information. This merely attaches the current salary for that level and includes any bonus paid.
I was a fed for 26 yrs. including being a ethics official for a large office. I'm not terribly upset about this, as courts have said, sunshine is the best disinfectant and it's useful to be able to see this information.
It's public money and public information.
Not PP but I disagree with identifying salaries for individuals by name, especially for workers in the lower pay grades. In reality, it's probably more useful for federal employees as a tool to negotiate compensation relative to their peers.
I think it is a security risk for people and a violation of privacy. Not everybody needs to know where you work. Salary I agree is ok but your agency and location not so much. At the end of the day though, if you know someone's GS level and location, you know their salary range already. It creeps me out that my ex can find out where I am during the day.
Hate to break it to you, but you can find out far more detailed information than this about your location just by googling. Especially if you own a home, the tax records are all public info as well. 5 minutes on google and I can find sites listing my home address pulled from publicly available data. Way more specific than the pay database that just says I work in Washington DC (but not which building of many that my agency has).
Anonymous
08/01/2013 14:01
Subject: Feds Income
Anonymous wrote:p.s. if your ex is that unhinged, get a protective order from a court.
It doesn't negate the Freedom of Information Act, however. ;-o
Don't joke about that. An unhinged ex ran his car into the capitol in 1999 and killed people.
Anonymous
08/01/2013 13:58
Subject: Feds Income
I'm fully aware that my salary and GS step are FOIA-able. However, I did not realize that information associated with what agency I work for is also public. I don't care for that. I have no issues with people knowing what I make, but I don't care to disclose to many people what agency I work for as I don't care for the stigma attached.
Anonymous
08/01/2013 07:25
Subject: Feds Income
I'm not on that database. That said, I make shit money and entering a 4th pay freeze year with furloughs this year, so if someone looks me up they are pretty pathetic!
- looking for other work like every smart young fed
- looking for other work like every smart young fed
Anonymous
08/01/2013 00:27
Subject: Feds Income
p.s. if your ex is that unhinged, get a protective order from a court.
It doesn't negate the Freedom of Information Act, however. ;-o
It doesn't negate the Freedom of Information Act, however. ;-o
Anonymous
08/01/2013 00:25
Subject: Feds Income
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Federal salaries are a matter of public record. The amounts listed are not the amount actually paid or received in a given year, so don't show what's on a W-2 for example.
What is the specific identity theft risk, 19:40? For years every federal employee's job title and Grade/step have been public information. This merely attaches the current salary for that level and includes any bonus paid.
I was a fed for 26 yrs. including being a ethics official for a large office. I'm not terribly upset about this, as courts have said, sunshine is the best disinfectant and it's useful to be able to see this information.
It's public money and public information.
Not PP but I disagree with identifying salaries for individuals by name, especially for workers in the lower pay grades. In reality, it's probably more useful for federal employees as a tool to negotiate compensation relative to their peers.
I think it is a security risk for people and a violation of privacy. Not everybody needs to know where you work. Salary I agree is ok but your agency and location not so much. At the end of the day though, if you know someone's GS level and location, you know their salary range already. It creeps me out that my ex can find out where I am during the day.
C'mon, grow up.
This does not tell where you work. It may give a city. It correlates to a GS Grade & step, which has always been publicly available information.
Stop being a baby and whining.
Signed,
a 26 yr. Fed
Anonymous
08/01/2013 00:23
Subject: Feds Income
p.s. quit whining, those of you complaining about your salaries being posted. I'm a 26 yr. Fed (recently retired) and your grade and step have always been public information disclosable under FOIA.
Stop whining, it's public information.
Go ahead, sue under the Privacy Act and prove yourself to be an uninformed fool.
Stop whining, it's public information.
Go ahead, sue under the Privacy Act and prove yourself to be an uninformed fool.
Anonymous
08/01/2013 00:22
Subject: Feds Income
$155,500, capped the past 3+ years.
Anonymous
08/01/2013 00:13
Subject: Feds Income
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:http://fedsdatacenter.com/federal-pay-rates/
Look up your neighbors!!!
Are those total comp or salaries?
Total comp. bonuses are listed
I looked myself up - I got a bonus that is not listed.
I agree that this is an invasion of privacy!! They should just publish aggregate or anonymized data. I may sue under the privacy act, just for fun.
My law firm keeps the name, SSN, DoB of quite a number of associates on the publicly accessible portion of its intranet. Could be worse.
Anonymous
07/31/2013 22:47
Subject: Feds Income
Don't waste your time. Your salary is, and should be, a matter of public record.
Anonymous
07/31/2013 22:10
Subject: Feds Income
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:http://fedsdatacenter.com/federal-pay-rates/
Look up your neighbors!!!
Are those total comp or salaries?
Total comp. bonuses are listed
I looked myself up - I got a bonus that is not listed.
I agree that this is an invasion of privacy!! They should just publish aggregate or anonymized data. I may sue under the privacy act, just for fun.
Anonymous
07/31/2013 21:38
Subject: Feds Income
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:http://fedsdatacenter.com/federal-pay-rates/
Look up your neighbors!!!
Looks like the medical officers are the highest paid feds
CACCIARELLI,THOMAS V PH VM $398,322.00 $0.00 VETERANS HEALTH ADMINISTRATION PITTSBURGH MEDICAL OFFICER 2011
CACCIARELLI,THOMAS V PH VM $398,322.00 $0.00 VETERANS HEALTH ADMINISTRATION PITTSBURGH MEDICAL OFFICER 2012
BURDON,THOMAS A PH VM $398,055.00 $0.00 VETERANS HEALTH ADMINISTRATION PALO ALTO MEDICAL OFFICER 2012
CACCIARELLI,THOMAS V PH VM $395,055.00 $0.00 VETERANS HEALTH ADMINISTRATION PITTSBURGH MEDICAL OFFICER 2010
yes, the doctors you listed are a Cardiothoracic (open heart) surgeon and a transplant surgeon. Some of the most highly trained physicians there are (9+ years of residency after medical school). Both could make much more in the private sector.
By law, the VA doesn't have to follow the GS scale for physician pay so they can provide all aspects of health care to veterans (including open heart surgery, etc).
The vast majority their physicians make far, far less and fall well within the federal pay scale. My husband (an internist) was hired at about $140k. Also, salaries are very strictly regulated by specialty and transparent.
+1
Cardiothoracic surgeons can clear over $1 million per year in private practice.