Anonymous
Post 07/31/2013 09:09     Subject: Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
Anonymous wrote:Why testing again? When kids are older, schools can use their academic achievements to make decisions. Schools can give kids very difficult questions to differentiate kids. When I was in elementary school, my school did not do any IQ tests, instead, teachers used very difficult, highly challenging questions to decide who needed AAP. They hardly missed any kids


This is actually a great idea. Probably any test will be prepped for by those who are determined to do so.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2013 23:56     Subject: Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
Why testing again? When kids are older, schools can use their academic achievements to make decisions. Schools can give kids very difficult questions to differentiate kids. When I was in elementary school, my school did not do any IQ tests, instead, teachers used very difficult, highly challenging questions to decide who needed AAP. They hardly missed any kids
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2013 21:55     Subject: Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I ask because last year's third grade AAP classes at our center were so incredibly bloated. Way too many kids admitted. Are students ever re-evaluated and perhaps switched to General Ed instead?


+1000 Re-do!!! Preferably with a test that hasn't been prepped for.


Your school too? I can't believe how many parents I've talked to, both here and in "real" life, who have said the same thing. Getting into AAP has become somewhat of a joke in the past couple of years.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2013 21:14     Subject: Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
Anonymous wrote:I ask because last year's third grade AAP classes at our center were so incredibly bloated. Way too many kids admitted. Are students ever re-evaluated and perhaps switched to General Ed instead?


+1000 Re-do!!! Preferably with a test that hasn't been prepped for.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2013 15:24     Subject: Re:Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
Anonymous wrote:^^^ The dashboard provides 13,203 second graders so the estimate is correct ^^^


But that only includes FCPS 2nd graders and not those outside of FCPS.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2013 14:03     Subject: Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Last year's 3rd grade AAP enrollment was open, obviously. Will have to see what this year is like. My oldest is in 6th and that was the last year that AAP had actual tough requirements.


BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Read the statistics on slide 12, precious!

http://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/99LQQB6A6292/$file/FCPS%20Advanced%20Academic%20Programs%20Review.pdf


Can someone explain what the 5.3 percent eligibility for 2013-14 is based on in the above referenced document...I can't tell from the available numbers.
Thanks.


the bigger number is the doubling of students receiving AAP services to 14% in just 10 years. it's a little shocking.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2013 13:59     Subject: Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
Anonymous wrote:I ask because last year's third grade AAP classes at our center were so incredibly bloated. Way too many kids admitted. Are students ever re-evaluated and perhaps switched to General Ed instead?


Yeah, let's start with yours.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2013 13:58     Subject: Re:Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
^^^ The dashboard provides 13,203 second graders so the estimate is correct ^^^
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2013 22:38     Subject: Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP: Wrong. 50% that apply, not 50% of all second graders.


I am not referring to the total of those that are in the 2nd grade pool, apply or refer.

The number of students found Center eligible each year (which means of all the students that are in the 2nd grade pool, plus those that apply/refer in 2nd through 7th grades, only those that are ultimately found Center eligible by the central selection committee) is comprised of roughly 50% 2nd grade students and roughly 50% 3rd through 7th grade students.


If it is 50/50, then it means about 12.5% of second graders found eligible this year (1623/13,000), and about 8.5% accepted into center (1101/13,000).


Not sure where you are getting the denominator from. Do you have some way to add in the number of private school 2nd graders to the FCPS 2nd grade number?


The denominator is an estimate. From this forum, people mentioned several times that there were about 13,000 second graders for year 2012-2013. The percentage is just an estimate. Several people expressed interests in knowing the percentage of kids accepted this year as the new FxAT only identified 5% of the kids...