Anonymous
07/17/2013 16:17
Subject: Re:Women making over 200k
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
39 vp policy nonprofit
That's criminal. Never going to donate to a nonprofit again
You are a total moron. You realize there are lots of types of organizations that fall under the heading of nonprofit right? All will be glad to take your money but many are not 'charities' per se. The concept that a huge policy think tank and your local animal shelter are the same thing because they are "nonprofits" is ridiculous. Cutting off funding to your favorite charities because of another organization's structure is odd.
Also, please remember that this person could possibly easily be making $500K or more in a private sector position that is on the same level (or worse, would be actually LESS work). The idea that large NGOs shouldn't be able to attract top talent with salaries is ridiculous. Some people don't believe that salaries should be comparable between private and public sector. OK fine, even if that is the case there is this sentiment of outrage when executives that run global NPOs that are the same size as many corporate counterparts make even anything resembling modest salaries. Remember these are the same people who could be making millions in bonuses but choose to work in this sector for literally 10% or less of their "market value". But by all means, we should never pay them more than 80K.
I don't agree with either salary (private or non profit). With private the board of investors votes in salaries with non profits it's the doners who should have a say.
Just stop writing. Investors have no say in compensation, the boards are picked by the CEO and do what the CEO wants done. The compensation is usually determined by outside experts and negotiated by headhunters. The compensation has little to do with performance.
Anonymous
07/17/2013 15:53
Subject: Women making over 200k
When people hear nonprpfit, they think 501(c)(3) NOT (c)(4). You have to be a (c)(4) to really lobby.
Anonymous
07/17/2013 15:44
Subject: Women making over 200k
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:36. Interior designer.
Here's what I want to know: Did you grow up rich? Are most of your friends rich and well-connected? I always wonder how people get successful doing this job and sort of assume it's something only people with the right sort of connections can really make serious money at. Maybe I'm wrong.
I too am in interior designer and I design hotels. I'm 41 and own my own business. I make about $150,000 but I also have to pay out to consultants. So my gross is more than that. Certain niches can be lucrative. And some residential designers who really make a name for themselves can rake it in. But I have to agree that res designers need to be more socially connected or they need to be published.
Anonymous
07/17/2013 15:42
Subject: Women making over 200k
I'm the VP/lobbyist based poster.
the charity my family supports (directly) is affordable housing for one of the close-in DC suburbs. I am friends with both the President/CEO and the SVP ...can't remember title but she's second in command. They do make a LOT less than I do.
One comes from money (I come from poverty). The other was making 250+ at an association before she moved on to what I think of as her pre-retirement career.
I also directly support some very poor family members. I just bought a truck for a relative in one of the gulf states. He has made two payments on the no-interest loan so that's great and the first time that's ever happened.
Again, don't hate me (or another) b/c of my income. It's this city and the opportunity it affords.
the charity my family supports (directly) is affordable housing for one of the close-in DC suburbs. I am friends with both the President/CEO and the SVP ...can't remember title but she's second in command. They do make a LOT less than I do.
One comes from money (I come from poverty). The other was making 250+ at an association before she moved on to what I think of as her pre-retirement career.
I also directly support some very poor family members. I just bought a truck for a relative in one of the gulf states. He has made two payments on the no-interest loan so that's great and the first time that's ever happened.
Again, don't hate me (or another) b/c of my income. It's this city and the opportunity it affords.
Anonymous
07/17/2013 15:39
Subject: Women making over 200k
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:14:58 read LOBBYIST...
Ok fine I'm a lobbyist. There. I said it. But I"m not evil and I'm not a lawyer.
This is me too. 38 SVP, lobbying firm. Been over 200k for about 5 years.
Anonymous
07/17/2013 15:33
Subject: Women making over 200k
As a compare to the VP policy people are bent out of shape over?
I'm a SVP policy and am well under $200 K. We work for low income communities, probably more what you think of when people say non profit.
But the lesson here is that there is a HUGE range within our sector. Do I think the CEO of United Way makes huge bank? Yes. Harvard is also a nonprofit, FWIW.
But I have colleagues running multi-million dollar direct service organizations for pennies.
I'm a SVP policy and am well under $200 K. We work for low income communities, probably more what you think of when people say non profit.
But the lesson here is that there is a HUGE range within our sector. Do I think the CEO of United Way makes huge bank? Yes. Harvard is also a nonprofit, FWIW.
But I have colleagues running multi-million dollar direct service organizations for pennies.
Anonymous
07/17/2013 15:33
Subject: Women making over 200k
Anonymous wrote:14:58 read LOBBYIST...
Ok fine I'm a lobbyist. There. I said it. But I"m not evil and I'm not a lawyer.
Anonymous
07/17/2013 15:03
Subject: Women making over 200k
14:58 read LOBBYIST...
Anonymous
07/17/2013 14:58
Subject: Women making over 200k
non profit VP here.
We are not a charity, we are an issues coalition. If I were to work for one of our member companies (we are a member-based org), I would earn about 20-50% more and I am currently thinking about making that switch.
Also my salary is public record and voted on by our 19 member board of directors. Don't hate the player. I have a doctorate and had about 6 years of this type of experience before I broke 200K and I only broke it last year at 38. I should also mention that i have NO BENEFITS package AT ALL except for a 401K which is nice.
We are not a charity, we are an issues coalition. If I were to work for one of our member companies (we are a member-based org), I would earn about 20-50% more and I am currently thinking about making that switch.
Also my salary is public record and voted on by our 19 member board of directors. Don't hate the player. I have a doctorate and had about 6 years of this type of experience before I broke 200K and I only broke it last year at 38. I should also mention that i have NO BENEFITS package AT ALL except for a 401K which is nice.
Anonymous
07/17/2013 14:48
Subject: Women making over 200k
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:36. Interior designer.
Here's what I want to know: Did you grow up rich? Are most of your friends rich and well-connected? I always wonder how people get successful doing this job and sort of assume it's something only people with the right sort of connections can really make serious money at. Maybe I'm wrong.
I grew up upper-middle class. My friends are everything from blue collar to full-on ballers. I started out working for a woman who ran her own company and had connections to "society" - she'd lived in the city for decades, seemed to know everyone, and was just great about introducing me. When she retired, she let me buy her business for a steal. I was absolutely very, very lucky in terms of being thrust into the homes of the 1%. Plus I genuinely do good work, so they ask me back and refer me to their friends.
Thanks for being honest. Congrats on your good fortune. I'm sure you're great at what you do. You're also aware of how lucky you are, which makes you a decent person. Two internet thumbs up for you.
Anonymous
07/17/2013 14:31
Subject: Women making over 200k
Anonymous wrote:Key Account Manager (sales). 100k base, 150k bonus. I'm 33. I've been making 200k+ since I was 29.
What kind of sales?
Anonymous
07/17/2013 14:18
Subject: Women making over 200k
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:39 vp policy nonprofit
That's criminal. Never going to donate to a nonprofit again
You are a total moron. You realize there are lots of types of organizations that fall under the heading of nonprofit right? All will be glad to take your money but many are not 'charities' per se. The concept that a huge policy think tank and your local animal shelter are the same thing because they are "nonprofits" is ridiculous. Cutting off funding to your favorite charities because of another organization's structure is odd.
Also, please remember that this person could possibly easily be making $500K or more in a private sector position that is on the same level (or worse, would be actually LESS work). The idea that large NGOs shouldn't be able to attract top talent with salaries is ridiculous. Some people don't believe that salaries should be comparable between private and public sector. OK fine, even if that is the case there is this sentiment of outrage when executives that run global NPOs that are the same size as many corporate counterparts make even anything resembling modest salaries. Remember these are the same people who could be making millions in bonuses but choose to work in this sector for literally 10% or less of their "market value". But by all means, we should never pay them more than 80K.
I don't agree with either salary (private or non profit). With private the board of investors votes in salaries with non profits it's the doners who should have a say.
i think they do have a say, via their donations? they can stop donating if they don't agree
Anonymous
07/17/2013 14:17
Subject: Women making over 200k
Key Account Manager (sales). 100k base, 150k bonus. I'm 33. I've been making 200k+ since I was 29.
Anonymous
07/17/2013 14:11
Subject: Women making over 200k
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:36. Interior designer.
Here's what I want to know: Did you grow up rich? Are most of your friends rich and well-connected? I always wonder how people get successful doing this job and sort of assume it's something only people with the right sort of connections can really make serious money at. Maybe I'm wrong.
I grew up upper-middle class. My friends are everything from blue collar to full-on ballers. I started out working for a woman who ran her own company and had connections to "society" - she'd lived in the city for decades, seemed to know everyone, and was just great about introducing me. When she retired, she let me buy her business for a steal. I was absolutely very, very lucky in terms of being thrust into the homes of the 1%. Plus I genuinely do good work, so they ask me back and refer me to their friends.
Are you really a certified interior designer or are you a decorator? I only ask because I think it's almost easier to make money as a decorator.
Anonymous
07/17/2013 14:07
Subject: Women making over 200k
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:36. Interior designer.
Here's what I want to know: Did you grow up rich? Are most of your friends rich and well-connected? I always wonder how people get successful doing this job and sort of assume it's something only people with the right sort of connections can really make serious money at. Maybe I'm wrong.
I grew up upper-middle class. My friends are everything from blue collar to full-on ballers. I started out working for a woman who ran her own company and had connections to "society" - she'd lived in the city for decades, seemed to know everyone, and was just great about introducing me. When she retired, she let me buy her business for a steal. I was absolutely very, very lucky in terms of being thrust into the homes of the 1%. Plus I genuinely do good work, so they ask me back and refer me to their friends.