Anonymous
07/12/2013 19:40
Subject: Well that was a fun first furlough day!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:the commute was fantastic - but I am sorry for all the people who are taking a cut.
I could not imagine taking a 10 - 20% paycut. And if you have a spouse in government as well.
I am angry with leaders in both agencies and in Senate / House who could not figure out how to make it work.
It's a 20% cut for three months not for the whole year. That works out to 5% for the year. Sucks, but better than not having a job.
Except that sequester lasts for 10 years, and there will be more cuts next year, so that adds up over time.
Anonymous
07/12/2013 18:41
Subject: Well that was a fun first furlough day!
jindc wrote:I have read the threads and believe its because they haven't yet been Feds. There's incredibly poor morale. Those who can leave, are. If you don't think there is a brain drain, you aren't looking around.
Doesn't matter if I annoy you, and. You don't have to agree. And I am not important, I just know I don't want to be stuck on a sinking ship!
(and technically I am irreplaceable because there is a severe hiring freeze)
Smaller governmnet is a good thing. It is better for the economy when there are more jobs in the private sector, and the government does not have to carry the burden of keeping everyone employed. In short, I am glad to hear that today's bright, young professionals are leaving government work en masse to seek their opportunities in the private sector.
Anonymous
07/12/2013 10:11
Subject: Re:Well that was a fun first furlough day!
Anonymous
If they would only fire half the lazy and useless government secretaries they could keep the people that actually work.
Well it's like the op. Worked a 12 hour day and billed the government for his/her time. Does not seem very product, but gets paid. Maybe op should not bill for work that is not complete in a timely way.
Anonymous
07/12/2013 09:50
Subject: Well that was a fun first furlough day!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:the commute was fantastic - but I am sorry for all the people who are taking a cut.
I could not imagine taking a 10 - 20% paycut. And if you have a spouse in government as well.
I am angry with leaders in both agencies and in Senate / House who could not figure out how to make it work.
It's a 20% cut for three months not for the whole year. That works out to 5% for the year. Sucks, but better than not having a job.
You are both correct and incorrect. It is a 20% cute for the next three months. There will be deeper cuts for next year and the next. Sequestration is 10 years of deep cuts that are pretty arbitrary. So agencies that got off the hook this FY potentially could be furloughed next. 10 years of paycuts. That is HUGE.
Because of the loss of benefits it actually works out to be a 25% pay cut for the next 3 months in addition to pay freezes for who knows how many years to come and freezes on performance raises. It's a big hit.
Anonymous
07/11/2013 22:38
Subject: Well that was a fun first furlough day!
jindc wrote:I have read the threads and believe its because they haven't yet been Feds. There's incredibly poor morale. Those who can leave, are. If you don't think there is a brain drain, you aren't looking around.
Doesn't matter if I annoy you, and. You don't have to agree. And I am not important, I just know I don't want to be stuck on a sinking ship!
(and technically I am irreplaceable because there is a severe hiring freeze)
Can they fire you when the hiring freeze is lifted?
Anonymous
07/11/2013 22:36
Subject: Re:Well that was a fun first furlough day!
There is a massive push to leave the government - everyone I know who is a young, hardworking, and talented employee is spending a LOT of time looking for other work.
In 1-2 years, we'll all be gone and the gov't will be left with those who can't get a better job, aren't motivated enough, or are just counting down until retirement.
You have an overinflated sense of your own importance. There will always be talented people ready to fill your shoes when you want to leave. Have you read the threads about people wanting to score an interview with the Feds lately? Probably not. You're too good for that.
It is foolish to think you are irreplaceable. Try not to take such an attitude with you to your next job.
And no, I'm not a Fed. I just think you're obnoxious.
+1000
jindc
07/11/2013 21:17
Subject: Well that was a fun first furlough day!
I have read the threads and believe its because they haven't yet been Feds. There's incredibly poor morale. Those who can leave, are. If you don't think there is a brain drain, you aren't looking around.
Doesn't matter if I annoy you, and. You don't have to agree. And I am not important, I just know I don't want to be stuck on a sinking ship!
(and technically I am irreplaceable because there is a severe hiring freeze)
Doesn't matter if I annoy you, and. You don't have to agree. And I am not important, I just know I don't want to be stuck on a sinking ship!
(and technically I am irreplaceable because there is a severe hiring freeze)
Anonymous
07/11/2013 20:41
Subject: Re:Well that was a fun first furlough day!
There is a massive push to leave the government - everyone I know who is a young, hardworking, and talented employee is spending a LOT of time looking for other work.
In 1-2 years, we'll all be gone and the gov't will be left with those who can't get a better job, aren't motivated enough, or are just counting down until retirement.
You have an overinflated sense of your own importance. There will always be talented people ready to fill your shoes when you want to leave. Have you read the threads about people wanting to score an interview with the Feds lately? Probably not. You're too good for that.
It is foolish to think you are irreplaceable. Try not to take such an attitude with you to your next job.
And no, I'm not a Fed. I just think you're obnoxious.
Anonymous
07/11/2013 19:10
Subject: Re:Well that was a fun first furlough day!
jindc wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm a contractor and the DoD agency I support is pretty specific in its policy that the work of the furloughed worker cannot just be picked up by a contractor or another government employee not on furlough. The point is that it's work that just isn't getting done.
This is CLEARLY not the case even though it's the law.
It's not always black and white. No a civilian couldn't say, "I have this deliverable due tomorrow, but I'll be furloughed so I need you to do it." And no one I work with has done that. But we provide support services and work on a team of contractors (from multiple companies on different contracts) and civilians. We (my company) have specific deliverables that must be completed for our tasks. Those deliverables still have to be done. It just takes longer because we're missing government employees to provide relevant knowledge and review of those deliverables. Hence the longer hours.
jindc
07/11/2013 09:18
Subject: Well that was a fun first furlough day!
There is a massive push to leave the government - everyone I know who is a young, hardworking, and talented employee is spending a LOT of time looking for other work.
In 1-2 years, we'll all be gone and the gov't will be left with those who can't get a better job, aren't motivated enough, or are just counting down until retirement.
In 1-2 years, we'll all be gone and the gov't will be left with those who can't get a better job, aren't motivated enough, or are just counting down until retirement.