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Anonymous wrote:I think there are a lot of families who may still move to the burbs for MS and HS.

I agree with this. While Janney is ok for my child, Deal and Wilson will never be.

Same for me. Layfayette yes, Deal/Wilson no way.

Can't say for Wilson, but Deal is better all around than Lafayette.

Murch is adding an additional 5th grade teacher to accommodate the higher number of kids. On our block 3 kids are coming back from Basis to head to Deal. I did a casual survey of the current 5th graders and found 2 going private next year and one who thought me may move but is currently registered for Deal. The others-- off to Deal!

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Interesting, that was about the same % at my DC's highly rated ES in McLean. About 75 started and 75 ended, but only about half (maybe less) were there from beginning to end.

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Your statistic also doesn't take into consideration the number of children who arrived at the school after kindergarten and then subsequently enroll at Deal. Mobility is a two-way street.

I'm the PP. Just to be clear, I'm not saying 75 started and 75 finished, but half of them turned over. I'm saying 75 started and 30+ finished. Yes there was turnover, but it didn't make up for the attrition.

There are far more kids per grade in the younger grades than in the older grades. There are two reasons for this. One is the school is growing. Five years go there were 2.5 sections of kindergarten, now there are four. But it's also been true as long as I've been at the school (nine years) that kids start bailing for private, suburbs or charter at third grade, and aren't replaced.

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An earlier pp noted that all but one of Murch's 2012 graduating class went on Deal. At Lafayette, 85 of 103 graduating 5th graders went on to Deal last year. While "many" may still believe Deal to be "unacceptable" they don't appear to have children graduating from Janney, Murch or Lafayette.

That's a little skewed, very few private schools have sixth grade as an admission year, nor do many of the desirable charters. Many families who have decided on privates leave public before fifth grade. I would say the measure is how many of the kids who entered kindergarten in 2007 will enter Deal in 2013. At my JKLM school the graduating fifth grade class this year is 30+, when that same cohort were in kindergarten there were ~70 of them.

Interesting, that was about the same % at my DC's highly rated ES in McLean. About 75 started and 75 ended, but only about half (maybe less) were there from beginning to end.

Two things.

I think that many of the privates have adjusted to 6th being and expansion year. The Field School added 6th grade a year ago.

Second, the reason that Janney had to add on so soon is that the pattern of leaving at 3rd grade for private changed. They built for 4 p-k,K,1st and 2nd classrooms and 3 3rd, 4th and 5th classrooms to accommodate private school (or MoCo) attrition. That attrition has stopped happening and last year they needed 4 3rd grades. next year they will have 4 3rd and 4th grades (and 5 K and first grade classes).

I have young children at Janney and talk to neighbors, friends and fellow parents that currently have children at Deal. I have yet to hear about a negative experience at Deal.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are a lot of families who may still move to the burbs for MS and HS.

I agree with this. While Janney is ok for my child, Deal and Wilson will never be.

Last year, all but seven of Janney's graduating class went off to Deal. I would imagine that this year's graduating class has analogous statistics.

Other people's decisions regarding Deal and Wilson don't influence mine. They are unacceptable schools for many.

Ummm... I guess, if by many you mean seven. Good luck to you and your snowflake.

Seven at Janney and how many at the other JKLMM schools? I'd say "many" still find them unacceptable. No need to insult PP just because she doesn't agree with your school choice.

I think a better way of stating the issue is that my reservations are not with the children going to Deal or Wilson but rather with DCPS. So if everyone went to Deal and Wilson from the JKLMM schools it makes no difference to me, it is the curriculum and management of the schools not the student body.

This is a thread about JKLM...

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are a lot of families who may still move to the burbs for MS and HS.

I agree with this. While Janney is ok for my child, Deal and Wilson will never be.

Last year, all but seven of Janney's graduating class went off to Deal. I would imagine that this year's graduating class has analogous statistics.

Other people's decisions regarding Deal and Wilson don't influence mine. They are unacceptable schools for many.

Ummm... I guess, if by many you mean seven. Good luck to you and your snowflake.

Seven at Janney and how many at the other JKLMM schools? I'd say "many" still find them unacceptable. No need to insult PP just because she doesn't agree with your school choice.

I think a better way of stating the issue is that my reservations are not with the children going to Deal or Wilson but rather with DCPS. So if everyone went to Deal and Wilson from the JKLMM schools it makes no difference to me, it is the curriculum and management of the schools not the student body.

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Anonymous wrote:Janney is oversubscribed. There's no way they can expand capacity. The only other options are to either be forced to move or go to a private (if you can afford those options- and many of us can't) or to start taking over other DCPS schools and start demanding they provide an appropriate education and a safe environment for kids. #OccupyDCSchools

Janney is getting six new classrooms in the summer of 2014. That will go a long way towards alleviating the projected crowding.

I thought it was only 3 new classes

Nope. Going two stories up.

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An earlier pp noted that all but one of Murch's 2012 graduating class went on Deal. At Lafayette, 85 of 103 graduating 5th graders went on to Deal last year. While "many" may still believe Deal to be "unacceptable" they don't appear to have children graduating from Janney, Murch or Lafayette.

That's a little skewed, very few private schools have sixth grade as an admission year, nor do many of the desirable charters. Many families who have decided on privates leave public before fifth grade. I would say the measure is how many of the kids who entered kindergarten in 2007 will enter Deal in 2013. At my JKLM school the graduating fifth grade class this year is 30+, when that same cohort were in kindergarten there were ~70 of them.

Kids come and go for a variety of reasons that are unrelated to "going private" or "moving to MoCo for the schools." Over the years, some kids do peel off for those reasons. However, the vast majority of children who leave our JKLM are moving out of the area. Your statistic also doesn't take into consideration the number of children who arrived at the school after kindergarten and then subsequently enroll at Deal. Mobility is a two-way street. Whether or not they started in kindergarten, they are enrolling at Deal in huge percentages.

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Anonymous wrote:Janney is oversubscribed. There's no way they can expand capacity. The only other options are to either be forced to move or go to a private (if you can afford those options- and many of us can't) or to start taking over other DCPS schools and start demanding they provide an appropriate education and a safe environment for kids. #OccupyDCSchools

Janney is getting six new classrooms in the summer of 2014. That will go a long way towards alleviating the projected crowding.

I thought it was only 3 new classes

To the OP's question: Look at pre-K. All of these schools are turning away IB kids for pre-K. Ten years ago there were some OOB pre-K slots still available. There's no reason to believe the current surge has crested.

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An earlier pp noted that all but one of Murch's 2012 graduating class went on Deal. At Lafayette, 85 of 103 graduating 5th graders went on to Deal last year. While "many" may still believe Deal to be "unacceptable" they don't appear to have children graduating from Janney, Murch or Lafayette.

That's a little skewed, very few private schools have sixth grade as an admission year, nor do many of the desirable charters. Many families who have decided on privates leave public before fifth grade. I would say the measure is how many of the kids who entered kindergarten in 2007 will enter Deal in 2013. At my JKLM school the graduating fifth grade class this year is 30+, when that same cohort were in kindergarten there were ~70 of them.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are a lot of families who may still move to the burbs for MS and HS.

I agree with this. While Janney is ok for my child, Deal and Wilson will never be.

Last year, all but seven of Janney's graduating class went off to Deal. I would imagine that this year's graduating class has analogous statistics.

Other people's decisions regarding Deal and Wilson don't influence mine. They are unacceptable schools for many.

Ummm... I guess, if by many you mean seven. Good luck to you and your snowflake.

Seven at Janney and how many at the other JKLMM schools? I'd say "many" still find them unacceptable. No need to insult PP just because she doesn't agree with your school choice.

An earlier pp noted that all but one of Murch's 2012 graduating class went on Deal. At Lafayette, 85 of 103 graduating 5th graders went on to Deal last year. While "many" may still believe Deal to be "unacceptable" they don't appear to have children graduating from Janney, Murch or Lafayette.

That's really interesting PP. I didn't know it was that high.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are a lot of families who may still move to the burbs for MS and HS.

I agree with this. While Janney is ok for my child, Deal and Wilson will never be.

Last year, all but seven of Janney's graduating class went off to Deal. I would imagine that this year's graduating class has analogous statistics.

Other people's decisions regarding Deal and Wilson don't influence mine. They are unacceptable schools for many.

Ummm... I guess, if by many you mean seven. Good luck to you and your snowflake.

Seven at Janney and how many at the other JKLMM schools? I'd say "many" still find them unacceptable. No need to insult PP just because she doesn't agree with your school choice.

An earlier pp noted that all but one of Murch's 2012 graduating class went on Deal. At Lafayette, 85 of 103 graduating 5th graders went on to Deal last year. While "many" may still believe Deal to be "unacceptable" they don't appear to have children graduating from Janney, Murch or Lafayette.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are a lot of families who may still move to the burbs for MS and HS.

I agree with this. While Janney is ok for my child, Deal and Wilson will never be.

Last year, all but seven of Janney's graduating class went off to Deal. I would imagine that this year's graduating class has analogous statistics.

Other people's decisions regarding Deal and Wilson don't influence mine. They are unacceptable schools for many.

Ummm... I guess, if by many you mean seven. Good luck to you and your snowflake.

Seven at Janney and how many at the other JKLMM schools? I'd say "many" still find them unacceptable. No need to insult PP just because she doesn't agree with your school choice.