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Anonymous wrote:I've always done my own renovation, except for one kitchen where I removed a sad wall and added a steel beam: there's no way I could get 30-35 k for cabinets. Seriously? What are they, teak? Rare hardwoods? I'd probably spend the cash to tear out that soffit if it isn't hiding ductwork, but dear gods.

And someone please tell me how you spend $15k on a stove, refrigerator, dishwasher and microwave. Do they come with a chef and a maid?

I can see 15-20k for a master bath if I get one of those orgy-sized showers in it: but again, you need a tub, maybe a separate shower, a John and a sink or two. For 50k I'd expect a cabana boy.

I just redid my grandsons bedroom. Down to the studs, carved a closet out of the eaves and another nook for a bed. Including having the drywall delivered, because I'm too damn lazy to lug it upstairs, so far I have spent just about $700. That includes all new wiring and insulation, and paying someone to mud the drywall. It's my least favorite job. Another $300 will buy paint, clear pine for trim, and switchplate covers: I've already installed the spiffy hunter fan and other new fixtures.

When I did the kitchen, it cost me all up 2.5k. That included new wiring, insulation, a new window----installed---slate on the floor, a Waterford wood cookstove, the bracing to accommodate it, a 12-hr fire rated wall and cabinets----which I built to fit the rather odd space.

How do you-all spend so much damn money?

Do you live in the 1930's?

For those of us who don't do our cooking on woodstoves...we got a Wolf oven, microwave, cooktop an warming drawer an it was more than $10k. Subzero fridge was $10k over a decade ago. Dishwasher was $1,200. Could we have spent less? Of course. But that's not what we chose to do. Our kitchen is not for show - we cook every day and entertain frequently, so we put in it things we wanted.

subzero's are the biggest piles of crap consumer reports explains it. Don't buy that shit.

Mine is 15 years old at this point and never had a problem.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've always done my own renovation, except for one kitchen where I removed a sad wall and added a steel beam: there's no way I could get 30-35 k for cabinets. Seriously? What are they, teak? Rare hardwoods? I'd probably spend the cash to tear out that soffit if it isn't hiding ductwork, but dear gods.

And someone please tell me how you spend $15k on a stove, refrigerator, dishwasher and microwave. Do they come with a chef and a maid?

I can see 15-20k for a master bath if I get one of those orgy-sized showers in it: but again, you need a tub, maybe a separate shower, a John and a sink or two. For 50k I'd expect a cabana boy.

I just redid my grandsons bedroom. Down to the studs, carved a closet out of the eaves and another nook for a bed. Including having the drywall delivered, because I'm too damn lazy to lug it upstairs, so far I have spent just about $700. That includes all new wiring and insulation, and paying someone to mud the drywall. It's my least favorite job. Another $300 will buy paint, clear pine for trim, and switchplate covers: I've already installed the spiffy hunter fan and other new fixtures.

When I did the kitchen, it cost me all up 2.5k. That included new wiring, insulation, a new window----installed---slate on the floor, a Waterford wood cookstove, the bracing to accommodate it, a 12-hr fire rated wall and cabinets----which I built to fit the rather odd space.

How do you-all spend so much damn money?

Do you live in the 1930's?

For those of us who don't do our cooking on woodstoves...we got a Wolf oven, microwave, cooktop an warming drawer an it was more than $10k. Subzero fridge was $10k over a decade ago. Dishwasher was $1,200. Could we have spent less? Of course. But that's not what we chose to do. Our kitchen is not for show - we cook every day and entertain frequently, so we put in it things we wanted.

subzero's are the biggest piles of crap consumer reports explains it. Don't buy that shit.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've always done my own renovation, except for one kitchen where I removed a sad wall and added a steel beam: there's no way I could get 30-35 k for cabinets. Seriously? What are they, teak? Rare hardwoods? I'd probably spend the cash to tear out that soffit if it isn't hiding ductwork, but dear gods.

And someone please tell me how you spend $15k on a stove, refrigerator, dishwasher and microwave. Do they come with a chef and a maid?

I can see 15-20k for a master bath if I get one of those orgy-sized showers in it: but again, you need a tub, maybe a separate shower, a John and a sink or two. For 50k I'd expect a cabana boy.

I just redid my grandsons bedroom. Down to the studs, carved a closet out of the eaves and another nook for a bed. Including having the drywall delivered, because I'm too damn lazy to lug it upstairs, so far I have spent just about $700. That includes all new wiring and insulation, and paying someone to mud the drywall. It's my least favorite job. Another $300 will buy paint, clear pine for trim, and switchplate covers: I've already installed the spiffy hunter fan and other new fixtures.

When I did the kitchen, it cost me all up 2.5k. That included new wiring, insulation, a new window----installed---slate on the floor, a Waterford wood cookstove, the bracing to accommodate it, a 12-hr fire rated wall and cabinets----which I built to fit the rather odd space.

How do you-all spend so much damn money?

Custom cabinetry will run you 30-35k. Mid-range, not high-end appliances, will run you 15k. There are more people than ever at the highest income levels and they live in places like Chevy Chase.

No one gives a shit and can tell between custom and non custom unless you told them or they are a builder / designer.

Chevy Chase is a weird area where the rich people like to live in tiny million dollar tear downs.

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Anonymous wrote:See, I've lived in those old foursquares. The plumbing may well work fine. The plumbing in the turn of the century house that was added in pipe chases built into the corners of the room works fine. The electric, not so much. That's radiator heat and shouldn't be an issue. Central air is a luxury, not a necessity.

For $1M? In Chevy Chase? No AC? That house is either a renovators dream/project or a tear down.

Anonymous wrote:Here's a comparable with a pending sale price of 1.2 million. Know the market folks...

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5119-38th-St-NW-Washington-DC-20016/449423_zpid/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've always done my own renovation, except for one kitchen where I removed a sad wall and added a steel beam: there's no way I could get 30-35 k for cabinets. Seriously? What are they, teak? Rare hardwoods? I'd probably spend the cash to tear out that soffit if it isn't hiding ductwork, but dear gods.

And someone please tell me how you spend $15k on a stove, refrigerator, dishwasher and microwave. Do they come with a chef and a maid?

I can see 15-20k for a master bath if I get one of those orgy-sized showers in it: but again, you need a tub, maybe a separate shower, a John and a sink or two. For 50k I'd expect a cabana boy.

I just redid my grandsons bedroom. Down to the studs, carved a closet out of the eaves and another nook for a bed. Including having the drywall delivered, because I'm too damn lazy to lug it upstairs, so far I have spent just about $700. That includes all new wiring and insulation, and paying someone to mud the drywall. It's my least favorite job. Another $300 will buy paint, clear pine for trim, and switchplate covers: I've already installed the spiffy hunter fan and other new fixtures.

When I did the kitchen, it cost me all up 2.5k. That included new wiring, insulation, a new window----installed---slate on the floor, a Waterford wood cookstove, the bracing to accommodate it, a 12-hr fire rated wall and cabinets----which I built to fit the rather odd space.

How do you-all spend so much damn money?

Custom cabinetry will run you 30-35k. Mid-range, not high-end appliances, will run you 15k. There are more people than ever at the highest income levels and they live in places like Chevy Chase.

No one gives a shit and can tell between custom and non custom unless you told them or they are a builder / designer.

Chevy Chase is a weird area where the rich people like to live in tiny million dollar tear downs.

Anonymous wrote:See, I've lived in those old foursquares. The plumbing may well work fine. The plumbing in the turn of the century house that was added in pipe chases built into the corners of the room works fine. The electric, not so much. That's radiator heat and shouldn't be an issue. Central air is a luxury, not a necessity.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've always done my own renovation, except for one kitchen where I removed a sad wall and added a steel beam: there's no way I could get 30-35 k for cabinets. Seriously? What are they, teak? Rare hardwoods? I'd probably spend the cash to tear out that soffit if it isn't hiding ductwork, but dear gods.

And someone please tell me how you spend $15k on a stove, refrigerator, dishwasher and microwave. Do they come with a chef and a maid?

I can see 15-20k for a master bath if I get one of those orgy-sized showers in it: but again, you need a tub, maybe a separate shower, a John and a sink or two. For 50k I'd expect a cabana boy.

I just redid my grandsons bedroom. Down to the studs, carved a closet out of the eaves and another nook for a bed. Including having the drywall delivered, because I'm too damn lazy to lug it upstairs, so far I have spent just about $700. That includes all new wiring and insulation, and paying someone to mud the drywall. It's my least favorite job. Another $300 will buy paint, clear pine for trim, and switchplate covers: I've already installed the spiffy hunter fan and other new fixtures.

When I did the kitchen, it cost me all up 2.5k. That included new wiring, insulation, a new window----installed---slate on the floor, a Waterford wood cookstove, the bracing to accommodate it, a 12-hr fire rated wall and cabinets----which I built to fit the rather odd space.

How do you-all spend so much damn money?

Custom cabinetry will run you 30-35k. Mid-range, not high-end appliances, will run you 15k. There are more people than ever at the highest income levels and they live in places like Chevy Chase.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that kitchen is $100K easy and I think the entire thing needs a ton of work. I don't think it would be done by September, either, unless you know that you could close next week, find a contractor and get your permits on some kind of expedited basis. I think that is unlikely. You will wait at least a month for your permit.

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Builder here...couldn't agree more...kitchen - 30-35k cabinets,15-20 appliance,5-7k countertops, plus lighting, plumber, demo, new floor - there's your hundred...hall baths figure 15k, master bath figure 30-50k.

btw, I do not live or work in your area but I like the house...do yourself a favor find someone you can trust and not recommended by the realtor to take a hard look at the house - the mechanicals - are they original, electric, how may amps, HVAC, etc...windows - houseful of windows is could be another 50k...the deck in the back has to go...nice patio is more $$$....again like the house but it is a project...and if you are like most folks I meet and I mean this respectfully I tell them the numbers - they look at me like I am crazy and tell me that I only do high end really nice work (which is true) then come back after about 6 months of doing there homework and tell me I was right....I look at that house and 200-300k is my visceral reaction...kitchen/baths/paint/etc...and I'm thinking closer to 300k..and btw you will by September just not this year....now if you are handy and want a three-five year nights and weekend project that is a different story...

Anonymous wrote:I've always done my own renovation, except for one kitchen where I removed a sad wall and added a steel beam: there's no way I could get 30-35 k for cabinets. Seriously? What are they, teak? Rare hardwoods? I'd probably spend the cash to tear out that soffit if it isn't hiding ductwork, but dear gods.

And someone please tell me how you spend $15k on a stove, refrigerator, dishwasher and microwave. Do they come with a chef and a maid?

I can see 15-20k for a master bath if I get one of those orgy-sized showers in it: but again, you need a tub, maybe a separate shower, a John and a sink or two. For 50k I'd expect a cabana boy.

I just redid my grandsons bedroom. Down to the studs, carved a closet out of the eaves and another nook for a bed. Including having the drywall delivered, because I'm too damn lazy to lug it upstairs, so far I have spent just about $700. That includes all new wiring and insulation, and paying someone to mud the drywall. It's my least favorite job. Another $300 will buy paint, clear pine for trim, and switchplate covers: I've already installed the spiffy hunter fan and other new fixtures.

When I did the kitchen, it cost me all up 2.5k. That included new wiring, insulation, a new window----installed---slate on the floor, a Waterford wood cookstove, the bracing to accommodate it, a 12-hr fire rated wall and cabinets----which I built to fit the rather odd space.

How do you-all spend so much damn money?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've always done my own renovation, except for one kitchen where I removed a sad wall and added a steel beam: there's no way I could get 30-35 k for cabinets. Seriously? What are they, teak? Rare hardwoods? I'd probably spend the cash to tear out that soffit if it isn't hiding ductwork, but dear gods.

And someone please tell me how you spend $15k on a stove, refrigerator, dishwasher and microwave. Do they come with a chef and a maid?

I can see 15-20k for a master bath if I get one of those orgy-sized showers in it: but again, you need a tub, maybe a separate shower, a John and a sink or two. For 50k I'd expect a cabana boy.

I just redid my grandsons bedroom. Down to the studs, carved a closet out of the eaves and another nook for a bed. Including having the drywall delivered, because I'm too damn lazy to lug it upstairs, so far I have spent just about $700. That includes all new wiring and insulation, and paying someone to mud the drywall. It's my least favorite job. Another $300 will buy paint, clear pine for trim, and switchplate covers: I've already installed the spiffy hunter fan and other new fixtures.

When I did the kitchen, it cost me all up 2.5k. That included new wiring, insulation, a new window----installed---slate on the floor, a Waterford wood cookstove, the bracing to accommodate it, a 12-hr fire rated wall and cabinets----which I built to fit the rather odd space.

How do you-all spend so much damn money?

Do you live in the 1930's?

For those of us who don't do our cooking on woodstoves...we got a Wolf oven, microwave, cooktop an warming drawer an it was more than $10k. Subzero fridge was $10k over a decade ago. Dishwasher was $1,200. Could we have spent less? Of course. But that's not what we chose to do. Our kitchen is not for show - we cook every day and entertain frequently, so we put in it things we wanted.