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Anonymous wrote:There is something seriously wrong with some of you. I am a Democrat. I'm fairly liberal. But come on! Where there is smoke there is fire. This administration has been a train wreck.

Funny, I'm a long-time Tea Party activist and NRA member who has always hated the President until now. All these non-issues drummed up by the liberal media to discredit him as he tacks to the center have won me over.

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Anonymous wrote:The only thing that makes sense is that the video was a "red herring" for the American people to distract them from the real issues.

It's very good that you bring this up. What were the real issues?

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I don't have to convince anyone - that isn't my goal. I'm simply asking some questions and hope y'all are considering your answers.

1) Does it make sense that the President would not check in after 5:30 PM on the night of 9/11/12 given the events occurring
2) Does it make sense that the President and Rice would go on the talk show circuit that far out from 9/11/12 with talking points about a video?

Not surprisingly, you appear to be misinformed about the talking points. The final revision of the talking points was completed on Saturday, September 15th at 11:26 am. Rice used them the next day. So, yes, it makes perfect sense. I assume that puts that question to rest for you.

Anonymous wrote:There is something seriously wrong with some of you. I am a Democrat. I'm fairly liberal. But come on! Where there is smoke there is fire. This administration has been a train wreck.

Anonymous wrote:Not the PP, however I disagree. The conservatives knew that Obama was not qualified to be President. He had never run anything and does not know how. He has proven that.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would you insist on the video story when you don't know what happened.? Answer.... You are a liar.

You might insist on the video story because the CIA told you that was what happened. Anyone who at this point doesn't realize that the CIA made this claim simply isn't paying attention or just doesn't want to know.

As usual, Jeff ignores the time lag between the CIA stating that was what happened (and it was vague at that) and when the Administration started using this talking point and the amount of time they used it.

But if you want to continue insisting that Obama, Clinton, et al are woefully uninformed, I can go there.

Obama receives his information from the CIA. What else do you expect of him? Do you really want a president who is surfing The Blaze and Twitchy for his information? Never mind that, I know you would love that to be the case. There was no time lag between the finalization of the talking points and their use. Go read the 100 emails just released and that will be confirmed for you.

Obama himself said he receives the news at the same time we do. So you ask him what you expect of him

Do I believe that? Not at all. He's full of crap in that regard. The fact is, the American people were lied to about the video, etc. That's been proven and picked up on by every news organization, including those at MSNBC, which is pretty remarkable actually.

You can keep believing he's squeaky clean in all this. I feel that any President who's absent after 5:30 PM on the night his Ambassador and three other men are killed, well, something's up

Your entire argument is predicated on "I just don't believe the President and he's full of crap." Ok. That's awesome. But it's not going to convince anyone who disagrees. People have explained to you why they disagree, over and over again, but there's really no arguing with "I think he's lying and full of crap." I wonder how much time you have spent going in circles with people that you could have been doing something better with your time.

I don't have to convince anyone - that isn't my goal. I'm simply asking some questions and hope y'all are considering your answers.

1) Does it make sense that the President would not check in after 5:30 PM on the night of 9/11/12 given the events occurring
2) Does it make sense that the President and Rice would go on the talk show circuit that far out from 9/11/12 with talking points about a video?

Ok. People have explained this to you over and over again in at least half a dozen threads. You just rehash the same thing literally hundreds of times. You've had the same interaction with people hundreds of times, like a nightmarish version of groundhog day. My question to you is:

WTF is wrong with you?

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I don't have to convince anyone - that isn't my goal. I'm simply asking some questions and hope y'all are considering your answers.

1) Does it make sense that the President would not check in after 5:30 PM on the night of 9/11/12 given the events occurring
2) Does it make sense that the President and Rice would go on the talk show circuit that far out from 9/11/12 with talking points about a video?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would you insist on the video story when you don't know what happened.? Answer.... You are a liar.

You might insist on the video story because the CIA told you that was what happened. Anyone who at this point doesn't realize that the CIA made this claim simply isn't paying attention or just doesn't want to know.

As usual, Jeff ignores the time lag between the CIA stating that was what happened (and it was vague at that) and when the Administration started using this talking point and the amount of time they used it.

But if you want to continue insisting that Obama, Clinton, et al are woefully uninformed, I can go there.

Obama receives his information from the CIA. What else do you expect of him? Do you really want a president who is surfing The Blaze and Twitchy for his information? Never mind that, I know you would love that to be the case. There was no time lag between the finalization of the talking points and their use. Go read the 100 emails just released and that will be confirmed for you.

Obama himself said he receives the news at the same time we do. So you ask him what you expect of him

Do I believe that? Not at all. He's full of crap in that regard. The fact is, the American people were lied to about the video, etc. That's been proven and picked up on by every news organization, including those at MSNBC, which is pretty remarkable actually.

You can keep believing he's squeaky clean in all this. I feel that any President who's absent after 5:30 PM on the night his Ambassador and three other men are killed, well, something's up

Your entire argument is predicated on "I just don't believe the President and he's full of crap." Ok. That's awesome. But it's not going to convince anyone who disagrees. People have explained to you why they disagree, over and over again, but there's really no arguing with "I think he's lying and full of crap." I wonder how much time you have spent going in circles with people that you could have been doing something better with your time.

I don't have to convince anyone - that isn't my goal. I'm simply asking some questions and hope y'all are considering your answers.

1) Does it make sense that the President would not check in after 5:30 PM on the night of 9/11/12 given the events occurring
2) Does it make sense that the President and Rice would go on the talk show circuit that far out from 9/11/12 with talking points about a video?

Anonymous wrote:The only thing that makes sense is that the video was a "red herring" for the American people to distract them from the real issues.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would you insist on the video story when you don't know what happened.? Answer.... You are a liar.

You might insist on the video story because the CIA told you that was what happened. Anyone who at this point doesn't realize that the CIA made this claim simply isn't paying attention or just doesn't want to know.

As usual, Jeff ignores the time lag between the CIA stating that was what happened (and it was vague at that) and when the Administration started using this talking point and the amount of time they used it.

But if you want to continue insisting that Obama, Clinton, et al are woefully uninformed, I can go there.

Obama receives his information from the CIA. What else do you expect of him? Do you really want a president who is surfing The Blaze and Twitchy for his information? Never mind that, I know you would love that to be the case. There was no time lag between the finalization of the talking points and their use. Go read the 100 emails just released and that will be confirmed for you.

Obama himself said he receives the news at the same time we do. So you ask him what you expect of him

Do I believe that? Not at all. He's full of crap in that regard. The fact is, the American people were lied to about the video, etc. That's been proven and picked up on by every news organization, including those at MSNBC, which is pretty remarkable actually.

You can keep believing he's squeaky clean in all this. I feel that any President who's absent after 5:30 PM on the night his Ambassador and three other men are killed, well, something's up

Your entire argument is predicated on "I just don't believe the President and he's full of crap." Ok. That's awesome. But it's not going to convince anyone who disagrees. People have explained to you why they disagree, over and over again, but there's really no arguing with "I think he's lying and full of crap." I wonder how much time you have spent going in circles with people that you could have been doing something better with your time.