My daughter's AAP teacher mentioned that she does not even know (let alone or track or compare) the center-eligibles from the principal-placed students. So how on Earth would you know?

My ds goes to a school where roughly 50% of the third graders are in the LLIV AAP classes (two classes out of four). Fortunately the AAP teacher did not "dumb down" the curricula in any way. At the close of the year I have a few observations about the non-center eligible students (i.e. principal designated students) in my child's class. The very bright but not "gifted" had to work a little harder to keep up, and in a few months fared just as well as the "truly gifted" ones. The bright but average child struggled to keep up, some had extra help at home and/or after school, and wound up doing ok at the end. The average to slow child (yes, there were a few whose parents insisted be designated) appeared so lost in class and miserable during lessons. But they were happy to get the "gifted" tag nonetheless.

Anonymous wrote:Seems a bit unfair that they took in so many kids last year and have suddenly decided to curb the numbers - they should really have an internal test to see if kids should stay in the program at some point after 3rd grade. I only know of one child who applied last year and did not get accepted (3rd grade).

Not sure unfair to whom, the kids suppose to be in AAP and got drag down because of too many kids, or the ones got squeezed in but couldn't catch up. The center for our neighborhood, traditionally had two classes each AAP grade, so two AAP teachers each grade. Last year they had three AAP classes. I don't know if the two teachers take turns to teach the third class or other teachers pitch in, or some substitute teacher took up the job. I didn't ask.

Anonymous wrote:Seems a bit unfair that they took in so many kids last year and have suddenly decided to curb the numbers

The numbers this year are roughly in line with spring 2011. Last year was the anomaly.

Seems a bit unfair that they took in so many kids last year and have suddenly decided to curb the numbers - they should really have an internal test to see if kids should stay in the program at some point after 3rd grade. I only know of one child who applied last year and did not get accepted (3rd grade).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If there are fewer center-eligible kids, does this suggest there will be a higher level of successful appeals?

No. It has no bearing on appeals. There were fewer eligible kids because the testing this year was different.

+1 to this post and 11:42's post

Anonymous wrote:If there are fewer center-eligible kids, does this suggest there will be a higher level of successful appeals?

No. It has no bearing on appeals. There were fewer eligible kids because the testing this year was different.

I don't think AAP has a quota. Before the eligibility letters came out, there were rumor that because of the smaller pool this year, higher percentage will found eligible, even for parent referrals. That turns out not true.

If there are fewer center-eligible kids, does this suggest there will be a higher level of successful appeals?

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know percentage of appeals that typically result in acceptance?

about 1/2

Does anyone know percentage of appeals that typically result in acceptance?

It appears that about 16% of the second graders at our school were found eligible (would rather not identify the school, because I was told this in confidence -- the administration is keeping quiet through the contentious appeals phase).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The number of students that are screened each spring is comprised roughly 1/2 of 2nd grade students and 1/2 of all other grades. Of the students that are screened, roughly 60% are found center eligible.

Is that a better description for you, 00:40?

Yes, thanks - that gives ~16% ratio of all 2nd graders found eligible to AAP this year

Not necessarily. For the 60% found eligible, it could be 80% of 2nd grade applicants and 40% of all other grades. Or 20% of 2nd grade applicants and 100% of all other grades. You don't know from the information provided how the 60% is distributed between the two groups.

Anonymous wrote:The number of students that are screened each spring is comprised roughly 1/2 of 2nd grade students and 1/2 of all other grades. Of the students that are screened, roughly 60% are found center eligible.

Is that a better description for you, 00:40?

Yes, thanks - that gives ~16% ratio of all 2nd graders found eligible to AAP this year

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The number of students that are screened each spring is comprised roughly 1/2 of 2nd grade students and 1/2 of all other grades. Of the students that are screened, roughly 60% are found center eligible.

Is that a better description for you, 00:40?

Can you take it further? Of the students deemed center-eligible, what percentage is 2nd graders and what percentage is other grades? Does it change significantly the higher up in grade you go? Did you explain this already and I missed it? Thx!

I have never asked and have never seen a grade-by-grade accounting of number of students screened vs. number of students found center-eligible over grades 2 through 7, by year.

~AAPAC member