Anonymous
Post 04/12/2013 23:12     Subject: Chesterbrook or Haycock
Anonymous wrote:It's not rumor mongering. Nobody is saying it's going to happen. All that is being said is that it's possible and it has happened before. Haycock will remain overcrowded next year and Ms, Strauss said she would eliminate the center before she'd redistrict the base school so it's more likely that they would eliminate the Haycock center than all of the centers as you suggest.


FCPS is not going to leave the McLean pyramid without an AAP center when there are two centers in the Langley pyramid and FCPS just created two new centers in the Marshall pyramid. Feel free to ask Janie directly if you think otherwise.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2013 22:14     Subject: Chesterbrook or Haycock
It's not rumor mongering. Nobody is saying it's going to happen. All that is being said is that it's possible and it has happened before. Haycock will remain overcrowded next year and Ms, Strauss said she would eliminate the center before she'd redistrict the base school so it's more likely that they would eliminate the Haycock center than all of the centers as you suggest.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2013 21:55     Subject: Chesterbrook or Haycock
Anonymous wrote:Why so nasty, PP? I was merely noting why there are so many Cluster 2 kids. OP may not know the context. It is possible that CB and FS could be kicked out at some point if the Haycock population continues to grow. It's only fair that OP know that as it may(or may not) be a factor in her/his decision. I know several Cluster 2 families that say they would not have chosen to send their child to Haycock if they had known the child wouldn't be able to finish elementary school there. Those families wish someone would have mentioned the possibility to them. Maybe they would have made the same choice but it would have been an educated choice.


Anything is possible. FCPS could do away with AAP centers altogether. But until that happens the small number of CB and FS kids who want to attend an AAP center won't be moved out of Haycock. Don't forget that FS will also be getting LLIV. I really think suggestions to the contrary fall under the rubric of rumor mongering.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2013 21:22     Subject: Chesterbrook or Haycock
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no mixing at all of AAP and gen Ed at Haycock. Not in any specials (except maybe band), or for any coursework. My 6th grader has been there for 4 years and doesn't know a single kid in gen Ed. I will agree that the principal showed her true colors this year. So glad we're on our way out.


It must have really bothered you if he spent four years without making Gen Ed friends. Hypocrite.


How does your kid make friends at school?
Do you randomly call people out of the directory and invite them over, or do they meet kids in class and go from there?
How is a kid expected to befriend kids he's never around?


The poster's child probably didn't make any friends outside the program because their child didn't go to Haycock before being in AAP. For the base children, they have friends from K-2 classes, recess, extracurriculars, and local sports teams. They maintain these friendships into the later grades. I think most parents are hoping that with greater balance between the gen ed and AAP, and less students from other base schools, that there will be less of a division.


If this is truly what the haycock parents want, why don't you lobby the school board to get rid of the center and make Haycock Local Level IV? 40% of the center is from Haycock anyway. Next year, the center loses all of the Cluster 2 kids, so the Haycock percentage would be even greater. You might as well get rid of the center and have all neighborhood kids, then the parents will not feel so put out.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2013 21:11     Subject: Chesterbrook or Haycock
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no mixing at all of AAP and gen Ed at Haycock. Not in any specials (except maybe band), or for any coursework. My 6th grader has been there for 4 years and doesn't know a single kid in gen Ed. I will agree that the principal showed her true colors this year. So glad we're on our way out.


It must have really bothered you if he spent four years without making Gen Ed friends. Hypocrite.


How does your kid make friends at school?
Do you randomly call people out of the directory and invite them over, or do they meet kids in class and go from there?
How is a kid expected to befriend kids he's never around?


The poster's child probably didn't make any friends outside the program because their child didn't go to Haycock before being in AAP. For the base children, they have friends from K-2 classes, recess, extracurriculars, and local sports teams. They maintain these friendships into the later grades. I think most parents are hoping that with greater balance between the gen ed and AAP, and less students from other base schools, that there will be less of a division.


As long as Haycock is a center, there will be kids from other base schools. And unless they change something, those kids will never know the gen ed kids.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2013 21:10     Subject: Chesterbrook or Haycock
The COULD be less of a division if the administration wanted it. Why do they have separate recess times? Why are AAP classes paired with other AAP classes for the class plays instead of pairing and AAP with a non-AAP? Why can't they be mixed for specials? The kids from the other base schools never have the opportunity to meet the non-AAP kids. Why not have activities in third grade to help all of the new kids and the base school kids get to know each other?

The clear message sent to the AAP kids is that they shouldn't mix with the non-AAP kids. It's so unnecessary and creates tension that doesn't need to be there.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2013 21:04     Subject: Chesterbrook or Haycock
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no mixing at all of AAP and gen Ed at Haycock. Not in any specials (except maybe band), or for any coursework. My 6th grader has been there for 4 years and doesn't know a single kid in gen Ed. I will agree that the principal showed her true colors this year. So glad we're on our way out.


It must have really bothered you if he spent four years without making Gen Ed friends. Hypocrite.


How does your kid make friends at school?
Do you randomly call people out of the directory and invite them over, or do they meet kids in class and go from there?
How is a kid expected to befriend kids he's never around?


The poster's child probably didn't make any friends outside the program because their child didn't go to Haycock before being in AAP. For the base children, they have friends from K-2 classes, recess, extracurriculars, and local sports teams. They maintain these friendships into the later grades. I think most parents are hoping that with greater balance between the gen ed and AAP, and less students from other base schools, that there will be less of a division.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2013 20:37     Subject: Chesterbrook or Haycock
Why so nasty, PP? I was merely noting why there are so many Cluster 2 kids. OP may not know the context. It is possible that CB and FS could be kicked out at some point if the Haycock population continues to grow. It's only fair that OP know that as it may(or may not) be a factor in her/his decision. I know several Cluster 2 families that say they would not have chosen to send their child to Haycock if they had known the child wouldn't be able to finish elementary school there. Those families wish someone would have mentioned the possibility to them. Maybe they would have made the same choice but it would have been an educated choice.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2013 20:24     Subject: Chesterbrook or Haycock
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Haycock parents don't want any more AAP kids because the school is too crowded, so they are not likely to encourage you to go to Haycock over Chesterbrook. You do take the risk that your child will not get to finish if the school remains too crowded. Your child could get sent somewhere else like the Cluster 2 kids are for next year.


It is fine with most Haycock parents if Chesterbrook parents want to send their kids to Haycock AAP. There aren't very many who choose to do so, compared with the number of Cluster 2 kids coming into the AAP program in recent years, because the Local Level IV at Chesterbrook has such a good reputation. The chances that Chesterbrook kids will get sent to another AAP center like Churchill Road are very low, in my opinion.

There will be a renovation starting shortly, so there will be some shifting around, but we'll manage. Good luck with whatever you choose!


The Cluster 2 schools don't have local level iv so it kind of makes sense that they'd send more kids because they have no other choice.


You or another poster suggested that Chesterbrook AAP kids at Haycock could be moved "somewhere else like the Cluster 2 kids." I'm saying that's not at all likely, because there are far fewer of them.

I'm not sure the OP is really interested in why the Cluster 2 kids soon to move to Lemon Road had previously ended up at Haycock.


Anonymous
Post 04/12/2013 20:15     Subject: Chesterbrook or Haycock
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Haycock parents don't want any more AAP kids because the school is too crowded, so they are not likely to encourage you to go to Haycock over Chesterbrook. You do take the risk that your child will not get to finish if the school remains too crowded. Your child could get sent somewhere else like the Cluster 2 kids are for next year.


It is fine with most Haycock parents if Chesterbrook parents want to send their kids to Haycock AAP. There aren't very many who choose to do so, compared with the number of Cluster 2 kids coming into the AAP program in recent years, because the Local Level IV at Chesterbrook has such a good reputation. The chances that Chesterbrook kids will get sent to another AAP center like Churchill Road are very low, in my opinion.

There will be a renovation starting shortly, so there will be some shifting around, but we'll manage. Good luck with whatever you choose!


The Cluster 2 schools don't have local level iv so it kind of makes sense that they'd send more kids because they have no other choice.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2013 19:58     Subject: Chesterbrook or Haycock
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no mixing at all of AAP and gen Ed at Haycock. Not in any specials (except maybe band), or for any coursework. My 6th grader has been there for 4 years and doesn't know a single kid in gen Ed. I will agree that the principal showed her true colors this year. So glad we're on our way out.


It must have really bothered you if he spent four years without making Gen Ed friends. Hypocrite.


How does your kid make friends at school?
Do you randomly call people out of the directory and invite them over, or do they meet kids in class and go from there?
How is a kid expected to befriend kids he's never around?
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2013 19:48     Subject: Chesterbrook or Haycock
Anonymous wrote:The Haycock parents don't want any more AAP kids because the school is too crowded, so they are not likely to encourage you to go to Haycock over Chesterbrook. You do take the risk that your child will not get to finish if the school remains too crowded. Your child could get sent somewhere else like the Cluster 2 kids are for next year.


It is fine with most Haycock parents if Chesterbrook parents want to send their kids to Haycock AAP. There aren't very many who choose to do so, compared with the number of Cluster 2 kids coming into the AAP program in recent years, because the Local Level IV at Chesterbrook has such a good reputation. The chances that Chesterbrook kids will get sent to another AAP center like Churchill Road are very low, in my opinion.

There will be a renovation starting shortly, so there will be some shifting around, but we'll manage. Good luck with whatever you choose!
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2013 19:22     Subject: Chesterbrook or Haycock
The Haycock parents don't want any more AAP kids because the school is too crowded, so they are not likely to encourage you to go to Haycock over Chesterbrook. You do take the risk that your child will not get to finish if the school remains too crowded. Your child could get sent somewhere else like the Cluster 2 kids are for next year.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2013 19:09     Subject: Re:Chesterbrook or Haycock
I find it interesting that most of these comments are anti-Haycock and pro-Chesterbrook. Usually there are tons of Haycock parents commenting on these boards. I don't think they really want to encourage any more people coming to their school. They're probably happy as can be that someone chooses to stay at their base school.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2013 19:06     Subject: Re:Chesterbrook or Haycock
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"That said, I am glad we made the decision to stay put at Chesterbrook given the issues with Haycock's crowding problem. I don't think the issues are bringing out the best in people and I've heard some very negative things about the parents at Haycock. I'm sure it's just a very loud few but hard to ignore. "

actually the whole drama to me brought out the true color of Haycock's principle and some of the staff members -- stay away!!


Principal, not principle, OK? Let's write that on the blackboard 10 times.

Some of the people moving over to Lemon Road AAP next year now look for any opportunity to criticize Haycock, yet they also have made it very clear that they want an AAP center that is just as good as Haycock and that they'll throw a fit if their kids have to interact too much with the non-AAP students at Lemon Road. Pot, meet kettle.


Exhibit A of the attitude of some parents at Haycock. You may not want to be part of that.


Weren't the six months that you spent grinding your axe enough time?