I'll let my friend know that TWO DCUM anonymous posters concur that the requirement to teach just 8 hours per year is B.S.

But why is it that "humanities" professors presume to speak for all professors? Aren't the science professors the ones that make the money for the universities? And isn't "humanities" a pre-law career derailed?

It's tough to get by on the upper east side of Manhattan too - which is why a lot of people commute from less expensive area with good public schools.

If humanities is your thing go for it, but you couldn't have reasonably expected to afford a high cost lifestyle with a humanities degree? Practice being satisfied and don't envy those who have made sacrifices you couldn't begin to imagine to afford their lifestyle.

Coming to 15:05's defense here. There is nothing in his/her post that suggests s/he is disgruntled or envious. In fact, s/he notes

I do it for more than the compensation (I am so very luck to have a job I love), but this post is nuts.

S/he is merely calling b.s. on the "teaches 8 hours per year" poster. As a former humanities prof, I concur. And if 15:05 is teaching "only" 6 classes per year, s/he barely has time to eat and breathe, much less seek lucrative outside gigs. Sheesh!

"sacrifices you couldn't begin to imagine to afford their lifestyle" as exemplified by the mom in the Sidwell case I suppose.

It's tough to get by on the upper east side of Manhattan too - which is why a lot of people commute from less expensive area with good public schools.

If humanities is your thing go for it, but you couldn't have reasonably expected to afford a high cost lifestyle with a humanities degree? Practice being satisfied and don't envy those who have made sacrifices you couldn't begin to imagine to afford their lifestyle.

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Anonymous wrote:I know a family with two college prof parents (private fancy) and they get aid.

You would be shocked at how little professors can make, even tenured ones at universities like Georgetown. The range in my field (humanities) is huge--$50k-$150k--for tenured faculty. Also, many professors on the DC area work on a contract basis ( ie, not tenured or tenure track), and earn as little as $3K per class.

But there are people lining up for those jobs. A tenured professor has plenty of opportunities for outside income and numerous perks. A friend of mine is a professor at a top 25 university. Required to teach 8 hours TOTAL each year - not credit hours - 8 hours - 480 minutes per year. Adjunct professors teach for reasons other than comp.

Clearly not an academic. I work 55+ hour weeks all year long despite only teaching 6 classes a year. Paid 55,000ish. Absolutely no time or opportunity (I'm humanities) for outside money. I do it for more than the compensation (I am so very luck to have a job I love), but this post is nuts.

We will not be able to swing tuition for two except at one of the cheaper schools despite my husband making almost twice what I do. And even then it will be very, very tight. I feel like we make a lot of money and yet have no money (live in 700 sq. foot condo with outrageous mortgage is only so-so school district). It's tough in DC and I would trust schools to decide what a family can pay and if they need help.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know a family with two college prof parents (private fancy) and they get aid.

You would be shocked at how little professors can make, even tenured ones at universities like Georgetown. The range in my field (humanities) is huge--$50k-$150k--for tenured faculty. Also, many professors on the DC area work on a contract basis ( ie, not tenured or tenure track), and earn as little as $3K per class.

But there are people lining up for those jobs. A tenured professor has plenty of opportunities for outside income and numerous perks. A friend of mine is a professor at a top 25 university. Required to teach 8 hours TOTAL each year - not credit hours - 8 hours - 480 minutes per year. Adjunct professors teach for reasons other than comp.

A tenured professor spends the majority of his time researching, writing, and in administrative meetings. Also outside earnings are rare for those in the humanities, but more plentiful for those in the SS. In the hard sciences, outside funding gets channeled through the uni and there are rules about funding and research ethics that make truly independent external funding difficult.
Your friend is very, very unusual. But, you know that, right? Not a good example for this thread.
There are legions of adjunct faculty who teach for a living--those who don't land TT jobs. Read the CHE-- also, see the first sentence you wrote.

You are clearly not an academic.

So, like many professions, the top performers do really well, most do pretty well and some struggle. That is not surprising at all.

Not PP, but TT = tenure track, CHE = chronicle of higher education.

Prior poster - What's a TT job? What is the CHE?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know a family with two college prof parents (private fancy) and they get aid.

You would be shocked at how little professors can make, even tenured ones at universities like Georgetown. The range in my field (humanities) is huge--$50k-$150k--for tenured faculty. Also, many professors on the DC area work on a contract basis ( ie, not tenured or tenure track), and earn as little as $3K per class.

But there are people lining up for those jobs. A tenured professor has plenty of opportunities for outside income and numerous perks. A friend of mine is a professor at a top 25 university. Required to teach 8 hours TOTAL each year - not credit hours - 8 hours - 480 minutes per year. Adjunct professors teach for reasons other than comp.

A tenured professor spends the majority of his time researching, writing, and in administrative meetings. Also outside earnings are rare for those in the humanities, but more plentiful for those in the SS. In the hard sciences, outside funding gets channeled through the uni and there are rules about funding and research ethics that make truly independent external funding difficult.
Your friend is very, very unusual. But, you know that, right? Not a good example for this thread.
There are legions of adjunct faculty who teach for a living--those who don't land TT jobs. Read the CHE-- also, see the first sentence you wrote.

You are clearly not an academic.

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Anonymous wrote:I know a family with two college prof parents (private fancy) and they get aid.

You would be shocked at how little professors can make, even tenured ones at universities like Georgetown. The range in my field (humanities) is huge--$50k-$150k--for tenured faculty. Also, many professors on the DC area work on a contract basis ( ie, not tenured or tenure track), and earn as little as $3K per class.

But there are people lining up for those jobs. A tenured professor has plenty of opportunities for outside income and numerous perks. A friend of mine is a professor at a top 25 university. Required to teach 8 hours TOTAL each year - not credit hours - 8 hours - 480 minutes per year. Adjunct professors teach for reasons other than comp.

The plea for helping those committed to "public service" is precious. Most people in this area who claim to be in "public service" are overpaid (for what they do) bureaucrats. There may be some true public servants among them, but in 4+ years at two distinct agencies and with a sibling who has 20+ years of "public service" experience I can honestly say I never met a true public servant. They range from not so bad to comically corrupt. My time in government changed my view forever.

Anonymous wrote:I know a family with two college prof parents (private fancy) and they get aid.

You would be shocked at how little professors can make, even tenured ones at universities like Georgetown. The range in my field (humanities) is huge--$50k-$150k--for tenured faculty. Also, many professors on the DC area work on a contract basis ( ie, not tenured or tenure track), and earn as little as $3K per class.

Anonymous wrote:Wow, what is the HHI of those on here complaining about giving FA to families making $140,000? I just don't get the vitriol.

Because it is disgusting, greedy and revolting. People need to put their hands back in their own pockets.

-- a Republican

Anonymous wrote:Our admissions and finnacial aid office told us the ABSOLUTE CUTOFF is HHI of $400,000/year!

Okay -- I don't believe that unless...oh, why bother.

Private schools exhibit wildly, vastly different economics. One school with a low endowment and low donations that charges let's say $20K p.a. might not be able to offer much aid. A different school with a large endowment and major donors might charge $26K p.a. but give out much more aid. The result can sometimes be that the school with the higher rack-rate is actually materially cheaper for an Aid-recipient. This is a school-by-school issue. There is no one rule of practice.