Anonymous
Post 04/09/2013 10:56     Subject: 1st Grader report card all P, no ES, is that normal?
Anonymous wrote:If a child receives a P it means there is nothing to worry about and they don't need a tutor. If they need a tutor them they should not receive a P.


Some parents may find out the hard way that is not the case.

I hate the 2.0 report cards with a passion. It is the picture child of education reform gone awry.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2013 10:11     Subject: 1st Grader report card all P, no ES, is that normal?
If a child receives a P it means there is nothing to worry about and they don't need a tutor. If they need a tutor them they should not receive a P.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2013 09:36     Subject: 1st Grader report card all P, no ES, is that normal?

I always wonder who the fuck you people think you are questioning professionals like teachers and doctors who have spent years training in their fields. YES, you are supposed to "take the school's word for how the child is doing." Yes yes, yes, a thousand fucking times yes. You do NOT know more than them. Jesus.


Okay, I will answer this question. I have never been a K-12 teacher but I was a college professor for years. I have seen firsthand how unprepared kids are when they get to college and they all graduated from high school and some even had good GPAs. So there, just because the school says that they are at a certain grade, doesn't mean much in my book. And for the record, although I don't know much about classroom management, in terms of math, I do know more than probably all of the elementary school teachers.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2013 09:32     Subject: 1st Grader report card all P, no ES, is that normal?
Anonymous wrote:Your child has met MCPS expectations. This is exactly what your DS should be getting. No more and no less.


Except when you find out later on, that meeting MCPS expectation means nothing in how much they really learn and how they will do when they are in college or later.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2013 08:19     Subject: 1st Grader report card all P, no ES, is that normal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your child has met MCPS expectations. This is exactly what your DS should be getting. No more and no less.
. Kids are getting more..... Some with all p's are getting math and reading enrichment others not. Some are even getting pulled out.


My child is one of the ones getting pulled out so this isn't about me. It's about everyone the advanced, the low end and the middle cannot determine where the are based on the P. I had to literally pry the fact that DC was advanced from the instructor and this was communicated through a casual email.

I'm actually not one of those vehemently opposed to the new system but this is one of the flaws.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2013 08:04     Subject: 1st Grader report card all P, no ES, is that normal?
Anonymous wrote:Nothing to strive for, 80% plus of students get P.


How do you know this?

Also, does that mean that 80% plus of students get a P? 80% plus of students get all Ps? Or...?
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2013 07:57     Subject: 1st Grader report card all P, no ES, is that normal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Your child has met MCPS expectations. This is exactly what your DS should be getting. No more and no less.
. Kids are getting more..... Some with all p's are getting math and reading enrichment others not. Some are even getting pulled out.


In that case you probably should accept the fact that your precious little snowflake isn't as advanced as you think.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2013 07:55     Subject: 1st Grader report card all P, no ES, is that normal?
Anonymous wrote:Your child has met MCPS expectations. This is exactly what your DS should be getting. No more and no less.
. Kids are getting more..... Some with all p's are getting math and reading enrichment others not. Some are even getting pulled out.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2013 07:46     Subject: 1st Grader report card all P, no ES, is that normal?
Your child has met MCPS expectations. This is exactly what your DS should be getting. No more and no less.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2013 07:34     Subject: Re:1st Grader report card all P, no ES, is that normal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
What happens when this first grader with a "P" reaches 3rd grade and is on the bottom of the heap where as another classmate with a "P" gets into a HGC or a GT class in school? What happens in MS? HS?


I don't know, what does happen?

What I'm concerned about is whether my first-grader has learned what she is expected to learn. I am not concerned about the relative rank of my first-grader to all of the other first-graders in the class, the school, or the county.


I don't understand the first post. The child who gets in will likely get in based on her tests scores and teacher's evaluation. The child who didn't, why will she be at the bottom? You mean you think that there is something that could have been identified as a problem in first that wasn't? Not sure why she would receive all Ps then...


I think what PP is saying is that there seems to be scenarios where
kids of varying abilities can get all P's. Some kids can get all p's and be magnet material others can be at the low end. It is hypothetically difficult for a parent to know where there child is in comparison to peers. A C kid and an A kid can both get p's but under the new grading system this nuance is fuzzy. Perhaps a parent would get the C student a tutor yet that exact same student with a P may be taken as everything is fine.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2013 07:14     Subject: Re:1st Grader report card all P, no ES, is that normal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
What happens when this first grader with a "P" reaches 3rd grade and is on the bottom of the heap where as another classmate with a "P" gets into a HGC or a GT class in school? What happens in MS? HS?


I don't know, what does happen?

What I'm concerned about is whether my first-grader has learned what she is expected to learn. I am not concerned about the relative rank of my first-grader to all of the other first-graders in the class, the school, or the county.


The problem with the new curriculum and uninsightful report card, is that very little is expected of the children in the first place. So P's for all!! Win, win, no?


I guess the problem I have with your outlook is that you seem determine to make sure some kids "lose" because somehow that validates you?
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2013 07:13     Subject: 1st Grader report card all P, no ES, is that normal?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Yes, they do. That's exactly what a P means: that she has learned what she is expected to learn.

http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/2.0/reportcardfaq.aspx


This is hilarious!! I am pretty much told to take the schools word for how the child is doing? Yet it is not backed by any hard data? What do they expect her to learn? How much of that she has learnt? Just telling me that "she has learnt what she is expected to learn" is insulting.

The new reporting was rolled out to do a "smoke and mirror" routine for curriculum 2.0 and it is doing just that.




I always wonder who the fuck you people think you are questioning professionals like teachers and doctors who have spent years training in their fields. YES, you are supposed to "take the school's word for how the child is doing." Yes yes, yes, a thousand fucking times yes. You do NOT know more than them. Jesus.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2013 07:09     Subject: 1st Grader report card all P, no ES, is that normal?
Specifics, please, PP. What do you think should be expected of the children, compared to what you think is expected of the children? Pick one elementary grade or several, whichever you'd like. You can find the MCPS explanations of expectations here, by grade: http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/elementary/guides.aspx

Anonymous
Post 04/08/2013 22:56     Subject: Re:1st Grader report card all P, no ES, is that normal?
Anonymous wrote:
What happens when this first grader with a "P" reaches 3rd grade and is on the bottom of the heap where as another classmate with a "P" gets into a HGC or a GT class in school? What happens in MS? HS?


I don't know, what does happen?

What I'm concerned about is whether my first-grader has learned what she is expected to learn. I am not concerned about the relative rank of my first-grader to all of the other first-graders in the class, the school, or the county.


The problem with the new curriculum and uninsightful report card, is that very little is expected of the children in the first place. So P's for all!! Win, win, no?
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2013 10:10     Subject: Re:1st Grader report card all P, no ES, is that normal?
Anonymous wrote:
What happens when this first grader with a "P" reaches 3rd grade and is on the bottom of the heap where as another classmate with a "P" gets into a HGC or a GT class in school? What happens in MS? HS?


I don't know, what does happen?

What I'm concerned about is whether my first-grader has learned what she is expected to learn. I am not concerned about the relative rank of my first-grader to all of the other first-graders in the class, the school, or the county.


I don't understand the first post. The child who gets in will likely get in based on her tests scores and teacher's evaluation. The child who didn't, why will she be at the bottom? You mean you think that there is something that could have been identified as a problem in first that wasn't? Not sure why she would receive all Ps then...