Anonymous
Post 05/06/2015 21:55     Subject: Anyone know anything about Keene Mill Al Fresco?
Anonymous wrote:There is a ton of inaccurate information being thrown around thread.
1. The school principal and administration have noting to do with Al Fresco.
2. Teachers have nothing to do with Al Fresco
3. The PTA does not organize or sponsor Al Fresco

Al Fresco is 100% run by parent volunteers. There are no meetings on school grounds and no input from school staff. I'm not sure why non-AAP parents have not organized something similar but they are certainly completely free to do so. Is anyone on this thread even a Keene Mill parent?


But why as a parent would you even want to sponsor a trip like this at your child's school knowing other kids there weren't invited? And don't you have to take the kids out of school so isn't the school and possibly teachers involved somewhat? I think you're getting a lot of comments from non Keene Mill parents because no other AAP parents in the county operate like this. And then to hear comments like "it's too hard to get in touch with general ed parents, makes you just seem more loathsome. Own up to the fact that you're trying to be exclusive at least.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2015 21:37     Subject: Anyone know anything about Keene Mill Al Fresco?
There is a ton of inaccurate information being thrown around thread.
1. The school principal and administration have noting to do with Al Fresco.
2. Teachers have nothing to do with Al Fresco
3. The PTA does not organize or sponsor Al Fresco

Al Fresco is 100% run by parent volunteers. There are no meetings on school grounds and no input from school staff. I'm not sure why non-AAP parents have not organized something similar but they are certainly completely free to do so. Is anyone on this thread even a Keene Mill parent?
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2015 13:50     Subject: Re:Anyone know anything about Keene Mill Al Fresco?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't support any large program that separated the AAP students from the general ed kids. What is the basis that these parents use to not invite the general ed kids? Our public schools are not supposed to be segregated by gender, ability, or race.


+100
And yet, center schools are segregated. I think there are many parents who enjoy that aspect of AAP - the separateness of it. Which is another strike against it, in my book.


Keene Mill is definitely on my list of one of the most annoying poorly managed schools in the district up there with Greenbriar West.


Please explain why you think Keene Mill is poorly managed. I've heard the opposite and would Love to hear your perspective. In the process of deciding if our child will attend Keene Mill. Thank you!


I think Keene Mill is poorly managed because the school and the PTA seem to do nothing to integrate all the students together. And they seem to allow all of these students to even miss school for a segregated field trip. Any school that allows AAP and non-AAP students not to mix to the point of even not having the same field trips is poorly managed by both the PTA and the principal.


Got it. So this thread is your proof, no other examples.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2015 13:48     Subject: Re:Anyone know anything about Keene Mill Al Fresco?
Anonymous wrote:Not to promote segregation, but if this AAP trip tradition continues on, then someone should organize a similar field trip just for Gen Ed kids so they get to have fun too.


Who's stopping them?
Newsflash: The world is not equal.
My kid can't do Girl Scouts because as a working mom, my schedule and hers do not permit it. Lots of other things kids of working moms can't always do. Do I moan and groan about it? No.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2015 09:25     Subject: Re:Anyone know anything about Keene Mill Al Fresco?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't support any large program that separated the AAP students from the general ed kids. What is the basis that these parents use to not invite the general ed kids? Our public schools are not supposed to be segregated by gender, ability, or race.


+100
And yet, center schools are segregated. I think there are many parents who enjoy that aspect of AAP - the separateness of it. Which is another strike against it, in my book.


Keene Mill is definitely on my list of one of the most annoying poorly managed schools in the district up there with Greenbriar West.


Please explain why you think Keene Mill is poorly managed. I've heard the opposite and would Love to hear your perspective. In the process of deciding if our child will attend Keene Mill. Thank you!


I think Keene Mill is poorly managed because the school and the PTA seem to do nothing to integrate all the students together. And they seem to allow all of these students to even miss school for a segregated field trip. Any school that allows AAP and non-AAP students not to mix to the point of even not having the same field trips is poorly managed by both the PTA and the principal.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2015 01:30     Subject: Re:Anyone know anything about Keene Mill Al Fresco?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't support any large program that separated the AAP students from the general ed kids. What is the basis that these parents use to not invite the general ed kids? Our public schools are not supposed to be segregated by gender, ability, or race.


+100
And yet, center schools are segregated. I think there are many parents who enjoy that aspect of AAP - the separateness of it. Which is another strike against it, in my book.


Keene Mill is definitely on my list of one of the most annoying poorly managed schools in the district up there with Greenbriar West.


Please explain why you think Keene Mill is poorly managed. I've heard the opposite and would Love to hear your perspective. In the process of deciding if our child will attend Keene Mill. Thank you!
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2015 00:36     Subject: Anyone know anything about Keene Mill Al Fresco?
The parents are the ones who should be embarrassed. Doesn't sound like the administration or staff supports the event at all.

It is very mean spirited of tye parent organizers. How difficult is it to invite the two to three other classes of sixth graders and make it a sixth day trip?

I find the escuse of "it's too hard to get in touch with non AAP parents laughable at best. Don't the parents communicate with one another at PTA? Soccer games? Walking your dog in the neighborhood?

Isn't there a PTA listserve to email events to all the parents?

Aren't there any familes with one in AAP and one not? Those poor siblings!

So glad the parents at the other centers in that cluster are not so mean spirited.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2015 06:55     Subject: Re:Anyone know anything about Keene Mill Al Fresco?
Anonymous wrote:21:44 again. I'm asking these questions as a parent of an AAP student who would never send their child to a school like this. It's horrifying to me that the AAP parents at this school agree to host a full 3 day camp for only AAP children.


Totally agree. I would be so embarrassed to be a part of a group like this.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2015 21:46     Subject: Re:Anyone know anything about Keene Mill Al Fresco?
21:44 again. I'm asking these questions as a parent of an AAP student who would never send their child to a school like this. It's horrifying to me that the AAP parents at this school agree to host a full 3 day camp for only AAP children.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2015 21:44     Subject: Anyone know anything about Keene Mill Al Fresco?
Anonymous wrote:I actually just came back from camp Al fresco 2 hours ago, it is a great way to make friends and the pranking is apart of the fun . It is ran by the AAP parents and they pay for all of the supplies that's why only the AAP kids get to go.


Do the general ed parents not want to help out? Did you ask them? How do you feel about a good chunk of your child's grade not being invited?
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2015 21:43     Subject: Re:Anyone know anything about Keene Mill Al Fresco?
Anonymous wrote:No, the purpose is not to "play pranks". It's team building and time to spend with their friends. The administrators do not like it, because the kids take a whole Friday off of school and that means lost Federal funds for the school. I think next year's organizers are trying to do it on a teacher workday weekend so there will not be any missed days from school. Additionally, there was a project worked on by each of the grade level boys and girls suggested by the Principal and turned into her as well.

As to students being left out; there is no way to distribute information other than by word of mouth and the few emails that are handy. There was numerous emails sent and each of them asked to spread the word and there were at least 4 meetings at the school so if someone got left out, the parents dropped the ball. he AAP parents are well connected to eachother and the kids talk abut it so there was plenty of opportunity to learn more. The school does not allow any advertising through KIT or the PTA or posters or signage so that doesn't leave many ways to get the info out.

I'm going to try to get a 6th grade event started at my non AAP son's school similar to Louis Archer. For those parents upset about Al Fresco being exclusionary can do the same.


Why can't 4th graders just be left out and invite ALL 5th and 6th graders or just 6th graders? 3rd grade AAP is already left out. There are only about 50 general ed children in each grade whereas there are about 75 AAP children. Seems like a reasonable and more mature way of handling the trip to switch it to ALL the upper grade students. I don't understand the emails getting the world out. Doesn't Keene Mill have a PTA webpage to post this stuff?
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2015 21:17     Subject: Re:Anyone know anything about Keene Mill Al Fresco?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't support any large program that separated the AAP students from the general ed kids. What is the basis that these parents use to not invite the general ed kids? Our public schools are not supposed to be segregated by gender, ability, or race.


+100
And yet, center schools are segregated. I think there are many parents who enjoy that aspect of AAP - the separateness of it. Which is another strike against it, in my book.


Keene Mill is definitely on my list of one of the most annoying poorly managed schools in the district up there with Greenbriar West.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2015 20:49     Subject: Re:Anyone know anything about Keene Mill Al Fresco?
Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't support any large program that separated the AAP students from the general ed kids. What is the basis that these parents use to not invite the general ed kids? Our public schools are not supposed to be segregated by gender, ability, or race.


+100
And yet, center schools are segregated. I think there are many parents who enjoy that aspect of AAP - the separateness of it. Which is another strike against it, in my book.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2015 19:36     Subject: Re:Anyone know anything about Keene Mill Al Fresco?
I wouldn't support any large program that separated the AAP students from the general ed kids. What is the basis that these parents use to not invite the general ed kids? Our public schools are not supposed to be segregated by gender, ability, or race.
Anonymous
Post 04/19/2015 14:50     Subject: Anyone know anything about Keene Mill Al Fresco?
I actually just came back from camp Al fresco 2 hours ago, it is a great way to make friends and the pranking is apart of the fun . It is ran by the AAP parents and they pay for all of the supplies that's why only the AAP kids get to go.