Anonymous
03/15/2013 09:20
Subject: Re:Middle middle class & lower middle class: What Middle Schools do we end up in?
This subject gets raised way too much. Yes "middle income" is subjective but $100k in DC is not the same as $100k in Atlanta. DC govt considers $60k low income. That is how much/little you have to make to qualify for low income property tax abatement when you buy a house...no prop taxes for 5 years. Yes, the median income can be $50k or $100k depending on household size, but you also have almost 20% of people living below the median which is 8% higher than the US average. If you are talking about wards 1-6, the median household income is likely more mid 100s.
Anonymous
03/15/2013 07:38
Subject: Re:Middle middle class & lower middle class: What Middle Schools do we end up in?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow. I can't believe how out of touch people are in terms of income. Median household income in DC is under $62k. (See http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/11000.html )
How in the world is $200k middle middle or lower middle class?!
Our income is below the median any way you look at itBut someone on another recent thread cited a stat that put the median HHI for a family of 4 in DC at $107k. I looked it up because I was somewhat shocked & slightly depressed by it and found it somewhere, but now I can't remember where. Anyone?
Yes, the HUD median income is $107k
http://www.huduser.org/portal/datasets/il/il2013/2013summary.odn
Anonymous
03/15/2013 06:51
Subject: Re:Middle middle class & lower middle class: What Middle Schools do we end up in?
Anonymous wrote:HHI of 175K, 2 kids, planning to move to Takoma Park for MS and HS. IB for E-H, hopeless. Don't like the lack of MS honors classes at Latin, the lack of creativity at BASIS and chances of many upper-middle-class classmates left by 12th grade. Could afford parochial school (Catholic family) but prefer strong public. Don't want anything to do with pushy YY folk at future DCI.
Wow. That was unnecessarily harsh--have not found the YY folks to be pushy at all except for the obvious malcontents.
Anonymous
03/15/2013 02:38
Subject: Middle middle class & lower middle class: What Middle Schools do we end up in?
Aren't we on DC public school forum? This puts you one step above of being ghettto-fabulous financial line.
Anonymous
03/14/2013 23:07
Subject: Re:Middle middle class & lower middle class: What Middle Schools do we end up in?
Anonymous wrote:Wow. I can't believe how out of touch people are in terms of income. Median household income in DC is under $62k. (See http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/11000.html )
How in the world is $200k middle middle or lower middle class?!
Our income is below the median any way you look at it
But someone on another recent thread cited a stat that put the median HHI for a family of 4 in DC at $107k. I looked it up because I was somewhat shocked & slightly depressed by it and found it somewhere, but now I can't remember where. Anyone?
Anonymous
03/14/2013 22:41
Subject: Middle middle class & lower middle class: What Middle Schools do we end up in?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:HHI is 480k. Child at CM, but we are going private for MS and HS.
I'm going to take a guess at the fact that you aren't in the income level that OP is asking about. Our HHI is $250 and I thought it might be more than she was asking. But FWIW we are WOTP and plan on DCPS for all levels.
You're right, I am OP and was thinking more like your HHI as the cap. But I didn't say that, so I understand the questions.
PP who is $250 and WOTP, are you already in the elementary schools you want and you're sure you'll feed to MS and HS you'll be satsified with? I ask because I'm wondering if there are any MS or HS in your area that you wouldn't want, and if you are 100% sure (at least, so far) that you will do DCPS no matter what, or your certainty that you'll do it at all levels assumes you'll feed into specific schools and what would happen if that got dislodged, like too many IB with sibs for the class you're trying to get into and you don't get in?
Not wishing anything bad on you! Just wondering where your certainty that you'll be happy with that comes from, if you don't mind sharing. Thank you!
Right now I feed into Deal and Wilson. There is a chance that we could be switched to Hardy but I'm OK with that. I have a few more years before middle school but our plan is to stick with Deal or Hardy, and then Wilson. I suppose if my kids turn out to be prodigies or sports stars or something we could consider a private but it could only happen if we got a scholarship. At our income level and mortgage, we can't afford private school for 2 kids on our own.
Anonymous
03/14/2013 22:30
Subject: Re:Middle middle class & lower middle class: What Middle Schools do we end up in?
Wow. I can't believe how out of touch people are in terms of income. Median household income in DC is under $62k. (See http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/11000.html )
How in the world is $200k middle middle or lower middle class?!
How in the world is $200k middle middle or lower middle class?!
Anonymous
03/14/2013 21:42
Subject: Middle middle class & lower middle class: What Middle Schools do we end up in?
Anonymous wrote:I know this is not the point of this thread, but I can't help saying that I find it revoltingly oblivious that someone would characterize $125,000 income as lower middle class in DC, apparently without irony.
I started the thread and I too am a bit shocked that someone considered $400k + within the realm of "middle middle class". But I've also been away from the Northeast for awhile, and as you know us East Coasters are oblivious to what is "middle" for the majority of the US. DC and NYC and Boston are different, no getting around that.
Anonymous
03/14/2013 21:40
Subject: Re:Middle middle class & lower middle class: What Middle Schools do we end up in?
Anonymous wrote:Agree. When you look at the profile of the feeder schools for Hardy, it's only a matter of time until it becomes the next Deal. Boundary redraw this Spring can only help.Anonymous wrote:My kid is 5. By the time we hit middle school, I expect there will be many more acceptable options than currently exist. Seven years ago half the charter schools we applied to didn't even exist yet.
In addition to charters, I bet by then the DCPS options on Capitol Hill & at Hardy will be better than they are now. Too bad we don't live in boundary for either!
+1. Parent of toddlers, IB for JKLMM Hardy feeder, praying this is true. I'll admit to sheer ignorance as to why it hasn't happened already. How is Deal different from Hardy?
Oh, and on topic: HHI $250k, planning on DCPS through at least 4th grade and then totally mystified as to what will come next. Oldest child just turned 2, so we're hoping to witness the sort of evolution described by the quoted PPs.
Anonymous
03/14/2013 21:16
Subject: Re:Middle middle class & lower middle class: What Middle Schools do we end up in?
Agree. When you look at the profile of the feeder schools for Hardy, it's only a matter of time until it becomes the next Deal. Boundary redraw this Spring can only help.Anonymous wrote:My kid is 5. By the time we hit middle school, I expect there will be many more acceptable options than currently exist. Seven years ago half the charter schools we applied to didn't even exist yet.
In addition to charters, I bet by then the DCPS options on Capitol Hill & at Hardy will be better than they are now. Too bad we don't live in boundary for either!
Anonymous
03/14/2013 20:53
Subject: Middle middle class & lower middle class: What Middle Schools do we end up in?
I know this is not the point of this thread, but I can't help saying that I find it revoltingly oblivious that someone would characterize $125,000 income as lower middle class in DC, apparently without irony.
Anonymous
03/14/2013 19:24
Subject: Middle middle class & lower middle class: What Middle Schools do we end up in?
Anonymous wrote:
You know this is a DC thread. So, you are moving. check.
May move to VA for jr high school from a DC charter. The thread asks what people are doing for middle school.
Anonymous
03/14/2013 19:21
Subject: Middle middle class & lower middle class: What Middle Schools do we end up in?
You know this is a DC thread. So, you are moving. check.
Anonymous
03/14/2013 19:16
Subject: Middle middle class & lower middle class: What Middle Schools do we end up in?
^Most of the kids that test into TJ are from Fairfax county AAP programs (Chesterbrook et al) which start in 3rd grade.
Anonymous
03/14/2013 19:13
Subject: Middle middle class & lower middle class: What Middle Schools do we end up in?
But that TJ doesn't start until 9th grade, so there are no areas that feed into it for 7th grade. I think you need a different plan.