Anonymous
03/02/2013 21:25
Subject: Just got AAP screening file from AAP teacher and My DC's GBRS was 9, NAT 145 and VQN 93.
Anonymous wrote:While I don't think the GBRS is worthless, I can see how it might not be indicative of the child's ability... I say this b/c my first grader got a 143 on NNAT this year (99th%). While having a separate discussion about DC's bahavior/self-control, his teacher remarked how well he did on the NNAT and said something like "I'd never know that based on what he does in class. He doesn't show it at all." And she went on to say that DC "just doesn't see the point" of the assignments/school in general. [/b]DC has told me since before starting first grade that he wants to go to second grade and he still says that. [b]But, to look at his work products, you'd actually think he was quite far behind the other kids b/c it is not as complete/neat as theirs.
Anyway, my point is that kids like DC are quite capable intellectually, but they might not show it b/c they think the school material is too simple/boring. They aren't engaged and therefore, do not impress their teachers ... who would then give them unimpressive GBRS scores.
A child would have no clue about this (first grade versus second grade work) without a parent's input. An older sibling wouldn't account for it either...
I'd actually be very concerned with what the teacher is reporting to you...
Anonymous
03/02/2013 21:14
Subject: Just got AAP screening file from AAP teacher and My DC's GBRS was 9, NAT 145 and VQN 93.
Well... apparently the child IS bored as he says he is bored, yet he scored in the 99th percentile. And his teacher says that he just doesn't see the point of putting a lot of effort into it.... yet, give him a math test/problem and he is often able to answer faster (and more correctly) than his older sibling in 3rd grade adv. math. So, yes, you can call it bored or not engaged or just poor attention in class... but that's what he shows during the school day despite reading above grade level and having superior test scores.
Anonymous
03/02/2013 20:51
Subject: Re:Just got AAP screening file from AAP teacher and My DC's GBRS was 9, NAT 145 and VQN 93.
Why is it that "gifted" parents tend to blame their child's poor work on being bored?
Anonymous
03/02/2013 20:24
Subject: Just got AAP screening file from AAP teacher and My DC's GBRS was 9, NAT 145 and VQN 93.
While I don't think the GBRS is worthless, I can see how it might not be indicative of the child's ability... I say this b/c my first grader got a 143 on NNAT this year (99th%). While having a separate discussion about DC's bahavior/self-control, his teacher remarked how well he did on the NNAT and said something like "I'd never know that based on what he does in class. He doesn't show it at all." And she went on to say that DC "just doesn't see the point" of the assignments/school in general. DC has told me since before starting first grade that he wants to go to second grade and he still says that. But, to look at his work products, you'd actually think he was quite far behind the other kids b/c it is not as complete/neat as theirs.
Anyway, my point is that kids like DC are quite capable intellectually, but they might not show it b/c they think the school material is too simple/boring. They aren't engaged and therefore, do not impress their teachers ... who would then give them unimpressive GBRS scores.
Anyway, my point is that kids like DC are quite capable intellectually, but they might not show it b/c they think the school material is too simple/boring. They aren't engaged and therefore, do not impress their teachers ... who would then give them unimpressive GBRS scores.
Anonymous
03/02/2013 19:32
Subject: Re:Just got AAP screening file from AAP teacher and My DC's GBRS was 9, NAT 145 and VQN 93.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For the most part the classroom teacher is the one who comes up with the GBRs. It is rare that they are changed by other members of the school screening committee.
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I guess the above posters have visited over 135 elementary schools in FCPS and know how it works in every school. I've been an administrator in 2 schools where the committee came up with the GBRS scores together. Many times the teacher would come in with one score in a particular area, but then after discussing it with the committee and reviewing work samples, the score changed. We all gave our input based on our observations of the child.
And your vast experience with 2 of the 135 makes your assertion WAY more r reliable
Anonymous
03/02/2013 18:45
Subject: Re:Just got AAP screening file from AAP teacher and My DC's GBRS was 9, NAT 145 and VQN 93.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For the most part the classroom teacher is the one who comes up with the GBRs. It is rare that they are changed by other members of the school screening committee.
+1
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I guess the above posters have visited over 135 elementary schools in FCPS and know how it works in every school. I've been an administrator in 2 schools where the committee came up with the GBRS scores together. Many times the teacher would come in with one score in a particular area, but then after discussing it with the committee and reviewing work samples, the score changed. We all gave our input based on our observations of the child.
Anonymous
03/02/2013 18:42
Subject: Just got AAP screening file from AAP teacher and My DC's GBRS was 9, NAT 145 and VQN 93.
The GBRS is just one part of the overall application. In addition to test scores, the committee will also take into account your observations as a parent in the parent questionnaire, your child's grades, and work samples from school and from home. The GBRS is not a recommendation either way, it's just a record of observations of the child at school.
Anonymous
03/02/2013 17:39
Subject: Re:Just got AAP screening file from AAP teacher and My DC's GBRS was 9, NAT 145 and VQN 93.
Anecdotally, from experience as a teacher....
Anonymous
03/02/2013 15:31
Subject: Re:Just got AAP screening file from AAP teacher and My DC's GBRS was 9, NAT 145 and VQN 93.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous
I can assure you that with a 145 NNAT that child will get into AAP. No ifs ands or buts!
That was encouraging, but what was your rational behind that? are you a FCPS teacher, an AART, a member of screening committee(could be local or central) or just from experience?
Anonymous
03/02/2013 06:40
Subject: Re:Just got AAP screening file from AAP teacher and My DC's GBRS was 9, NAT 145 and VQN 93.
Anonymous wrote:For the most part the classroom teacher is the one who comes up with the GBRs. It is rare that they are changed by other members of the school screening committee.
+1
Anonymous
03/02/2013 06:39
Subject: Re:Just got AAP screening file from AAP teacher and My DC's GBRS was 9, NAT 145 and VQN 93.
Anonymous wrote:You requested and they just gave it to you? Wow, you have a nice school! I wish my school were like that. Our AART has come into my dc's classroom maybe 2 times, and only in 2nd grade. Never in K or 1st grade. I doubt she will give us the file, but maybe I'll ask!
She is required to give it to you once it's submitted to the central committee, which at this point it probably has. Check the fcps site on AAP admission. It says you are entitled to see it.
Anonymous
03/02/2013 02:11
Subject: Re:Just got AAP screening file from AAP teacher and My DC's GBRS was 9, NAT 145 and VQN 93.
You requested and they just gave it to you? Wow, you have a nice school! I wish my school were like that. Our AART has come into my dc's classroom maybe 2 times, and only in 2nd grade. Never in K or 1st grade. I doubt she will give us the file, but maybe I'll ask!
Anonymous
03/01/2013 18:35
Subject: Re:Just got AAP screening file from AAP teacher and My DC's GBRS was 9, NAT 145 and VQN 93.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:FCPS teacher ... with those scores, anecdotally, your child will get in (regardless of GBRS).
NNAT 145 is good. But - vqn 93 is below cutoff for CogAT, and GBRS 9 is not great. I'm not sure how this is a sure shot...
I can assure you that with a 145 NNAT that child will get into AAP, regardless of the GBRs.
Anonymous
03/01/2013 18:33
Subject: Re:Just got AAP screening file from AAP teacher and My DC's GBRS was 9, NAT 145 and VQN 93.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:FCPS teacher ... with those scores, anecdotally, your child will get in (regardless of GBRS).
NNAT 145 is good. But - vqn 93 is below cutoff for CogAT, and GBRS 9 is not great. I'm not sure how this is a sure shot...
I can assure you that with a 145 NNAT that child will get into AAP. No ifs ands or buts!
Anonymous
03/01/2013 18:32
Subject: Re:Just got AAP screening file from AAP teacher and My DC's GBRS was 9, NAT 145 and VQN 93.
For the most part the classroom teacher is the one who comes up with the GBRs. It is rare that they are changed by other members of the school screening committee.