Anonymous
Post 02/11/2013 16:49     Subject: Re:Killer cats
Anonymous wrote:Actually, it does make sense. Almost all the things in your list affect other people. Sometimes ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE. "Sodomy" (I assume you mean homosexuality?) and abortion affect only the people directly involved in the act. And no, the fetus isn't a person yet and does not get a vote. We evil liberals are pretty firmly against forcible sodomy, forcible abortions, and yes, being forced to live with the environmental repercussions of greedy profit-minded assholes ruining our planet.

Thank you, for making the liberal case so clearly!


+1. Who knew a thread on cats and birds could be hijacked by a wing nut looking for a fight?

Who let these tacky bird haters with their obese cats into the Pets forum, anyway?
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2013 16:37     Subject: Re:Killer cats
Actually, it does make sense. Almost all the things in your list affect other people. Sometimes ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE. "Sodomy" (I assume you mean homosexuality?) and abortion affect only the people directly involved in the act. And no, the fetus isn't a person yet and does not get a vote. We evil liberals are pretty firmly against forcible sodomy, forcible abortions, and yes, being forced to live with the environmental repercussions of greedy profit-minded assholes ruining our planet.

Thank you, for making the liberal case so clearly!
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2013 16:30     Subject: Killer cats
Liberals are such busy-bodies! It never ends....one thing after another.
Global warming
Climate change
92k
Ozone hole
Obesity
Ice age
Rainforests
Population bomb
Fluorocarbons
Rising seas
Polar bears without a home
Tobacco
16 oz sodas
Cell phone brain cancer
Killer cats


Geez ... The only thing they allow is sodomy and baby killing. That makes sense cuz they hate other people and don't want more produced.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2013 14:49     Subject: Killer cats
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If we were to stop predation in cats, the rodent population would spiral out of control. "Killer cats" are predator cats. They are part of the natural food chain.

Do you see all the posts in Off Topic about mice and rats? Do you not see the value of the cat as predator? Put a bell on every cat and watch your rat, mouse, and vole population spiral out of control. Look forward to mouse droppings and the wires on your car being eaten.

Ridiculous post.


Wrong, just wrong. They are not part of the natural food chain here. They are an introduced predator.


Rats aren't native either. Nor are the little sparrows that are so common. They were introduced by European settlers.


OK, so you don't care about the massacres of little furriner sparrows, they're probably illegals and don't speak English anyway. But it's still not OK for your cat to be massacring the native birds.


Hey, just pointing out that if we're going to talk about the "natural" predator-prey relationships around here, you can't be lecturing anyone about the local birds cats kill. I have NEVER ONCE seen a housecat take down a blue jay or a cardinal, or even a mild-mannered robin. Maybe occasionally a sparrow, or, more accurately, a house finch, which we call sparrows because they were responsible for pushing out the (also not-native) house sparrows, and they look similar. Are the cats killing all the passenger pigeons? No? Why? Oh, because people did that. How about the beautiful native Carolina parakeet? Nope, also extinct, also thanks to people. I know! Ivory billed woodpeckers! No. Again. People. Not to mention the fact that an Ivory billed woodpecker could have easily eviscerated a housecat.

Anyway, I have no cat in this fight, because my cat, who does have access to the outdoors, is far too fat and lazy to catch a bird. Just the occasional mouse or baby rat. (Although... the mice ARE native to this region. Perhaps I need to re-think...)



Wow, this has so much ridiculous and irrelevant stuff in it (your lazy cat's zero kill rate vs Smithsonian scientific studies? Really?) that I'm just going to have to conclude that you're looking for a fight and ready to spout endless gibberish to keep the "fight" that's in your own mind going. Good luck with that ... by yourself, because I'm gone.

Hopefully the rational, thoughtful posters will have registered OP's point.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2013 10:24     Subject: Killer cats
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If we were to stop predation in cats, the rodent population would spiral out of control. "Killer cats" are predator cats. They are part of the natural food chain.

Do you see all the posts in Off Topic about mice and rats? Do you not see the value of the cat as predator? Put a bell on every cat and watch your rat, mouse, and vole population spiral out of control. Look forward to mouse droppings and the wires on your car being eaten.

Ridiculous post.


Wrong, just wrong. They are not part of the natural food chain here. They are an introduced predator.


Rats aren't native either. Nor are the little sparrows that are so common. They were introduced by European settlers.


OK, so you don't care about the massacres of little furriner sparrows, they're probably illegals and don't speak English anyway. But it's still not OK for your cat to be massacring the native birds.


Hey, just pointing out that if we're going to talk about the "natural" predator-prey relationships around here, you can't be lecturing anyone about the local birds cats kill. I have NEVER ONCE seen a housecat take down a blue jay or a cardinal, or even a mild-mannered robin. Maybe occasionally a sparrow, or, more accurately, a house finch, which we call sparrows because they were responsible for pushing out the (also not-native) house sparrows, and they look similar. Are the cats killing all the passenger pigeons? No? Why? Oh, because people did that. How about the beautiful native Carolina parakeet? Nope, also extinct, also thanks to people. I know! Ivory billed woodpeckers! No. Again. People. Not to mention the fact that an Ivory billed woodpecker could have easily eviscerated a housecat.

Anyway, I have no cat in this fight, because my cat, who does have access to the outdoors, is far too fat and lazy to catch a bird. Just the occasional mouse or baby rat. (Although... the mice ARE native to this region. Perhaps I need to re-think...)

Anonymous
Post 02/10/2013 20:22     Subject: Killer cats
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just please, if you let your cat out, look before you open the door. I was walking my dog past a house when the neighbor did this. I nearly lost control of the leash and ended up being yanked down the street chasing after the cat. It's like the sudden appearance of a squirrel. Even the best trained dog would react.


There's something wrong here. Even the best trained dog might REACT, yes. But yank you down the street chasing after the cat? No. And you can't expect the world to adjust to your badly behaved dog. Your dog needs obedience and leash training.


My dog has passed his Canine Good Citizen test and is well trained, thank you. Having a cat suddenly appear very close by would incite any dog's prey drive. He's a large dog and very strong, hence the training in the first place and why he was able to pull me for several houses. The person didn't even look before tossing the cat out the door. No, it's not too much to ask to make sure the environment is safe before letting your cat out.


Saying that someone shouldn't put a cat outside at the same time you are walking a dog outside is stupid. No, not all dogs react to things like that! Many dogs ignore cats, or even play and snuggle with them! If your dog DOES react like that and it is so big that you have a hard time controlling it when out on walks, then you should rethink owning a dog like that. You said yourself that it could happen with the sudden appearance of a squirrel as well. So a cat that came around the corner of a house while you dog was outside could have the same effect. Or a raccoon or possum at night. It is YOUR job to keep your dog under control, not mine to make sure your dog is nowhere near any other animal that might set off your dog's "prey drive".
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2013 12:46     Subject: Killer cats
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If we were to stop predation in cats, the rodent population would spiral out of control. "Killer cats" are predator cats. They are part of the natural food chain.

Do you see all the posts in Off Topic about mice and rats? Do you not see the value of the cat as predator? Put a bell on every cat and watch your rat, mouse, and vole population spiral out of control. Look forward to mouse droppings and the wires on your car being eaten.

Ridiculous post.


Wrong, just wrong. They are not part of the natural food chain here. They are an introduced predator.


Rats aren't native either. Nor are the little sparrows that are so common. They were introduced by European settlers.


OK, so you don't care about the massacres of little furriner sparrows, they're probably illegals and don't speak English anyway. But it's still not OK for your cat to be massacring the native birds.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2013 23:53     Subject: Killer cats
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If we were to stop predation in cats, the rodent population would spiral out of control. "Killer cats" are predator cats. They are part of the natural food chain.

Do you see all the posts in Off Topic about mice and rats? Do you not see the value of the cat as predator? Put a bell on every cat and watch your rat, mouse, and vole population spiral out of control. Look forward to mouse droppings and the wires on your car being eaten.

Ridiculous post.


Wrong, just wrong. They are not part of the natural food chain here. They are an introduced predator.


Rats aren't native either. Nor are the little sparrows that are so common. They were introduced by European settlers.


I'm not native either. Born in Sweden. Maybe I should be kept indoors.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2013 23:46     Subject: Killer cats
Anonymous wrote:Just please, if you let your cat out, look before you open the door. I was walking my dog past a house when the neighbor did this. I nearly lost control of the leash and ended up being yanked down the street chasing after the cat. It's like the sudden appearance of a squirrel. Even the best trained dog would react.


Hahahahaha. Were you riding your bike and wearing headphones at the same time? Because, dogs will always chase cats and squirrels...
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2013 23:10     Subject: Killer cats
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If we were to stop predation in cats, the rodent population would spiral out of control. "Killer cats" are predator cats. They are part of the natural food chain.

Do you see all the posts in Off Topic about mice and rats? Do you not see the value of the cat as predator? Put a bell on every cat and watch your rat, mouse, and vole population spiral out of control. Look forward to mouse droppings and the wires on your car being eaten.

Ridiculous post.


Wrong, just wrong. They are not part of the natural food chain here. They are an introduced predator.


Rats aren't native either. Nor are the little sparrows that are so common. They were introduced by European settlers.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2013 22:06     Subject: Killer cats
Anonymous wrote:If we were to stop predation in cats, the rodent population would spiral out of control. "Killer cats" are predator cats. They are part of the natural food chain.

Do you see all the posts in Off Topic about mice and rats? Do you not see the value of the cat as predator? Put a bell on every cat and watch your rat, mouse, and vole population spiral out of control. Look forward to mouse droppings and the wires on your car being eaten.

Ridiculous post.


The snakes in my yard take care of the rodent population.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2013 11:36     Subject: Killer cats
Anonymous wrote:Sarcasm, my dear. Sarcasm. Now, breathe.


Too dumb and tone-deaf to be funny, my dear. Now wipe that smirk off your face.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2013 11:34     Subject: Killer cats
Anonymous wrote:So what do you propose? Kill all of the cats? I repeat. Shit happens.


Uh, no. OP's first post had the best ideas. First, a bell on the cat's collar. Second and better, don't let the cat outside so they don't get incurable diseases or hit by a car. This is why shelters generally make you sign an agreement to keep the cats inside and most vets recommend this too. Best for the cats and lengthens their lives.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2013 22:20     Subject: Killer cats
Sarcasm, my dear. Sarcasm. Now, breathe.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2013 22:05     Subject: Killer cats
Anonymous wrote:So what do you propose? Kill all of the cats? I repeat. Shit happens.


Wow, seriously? That's your response? You are ignorant and stupid and everything that's wrong with the human race. And I don't even like cats, or birds.