Anonymous
Post 01/31/2013 11:42     Subject: Re:Dont feel sorry let's move on to new LR AAP center!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The principal can only do so much anyway. I would get to know the Lemon Road PTA and see about planning PTA AAP events next year and work through the school board to have them help get a quality program at Lemon Road.


Not a Lemon Road parent, but last I checked, the PTA schedules events for the school as a whole. I have children in AAP, and never, have there been PTA AAP events, they work on building community, not segregation.


We are at an amazing center ain a different cluster. Our school does it this way too. They specifically and openly state that special activities are for all the students. Do some, like Science Olympiad, end up primarilly AAP? Yes. But they are not exclusively offered to AAP.

It makes for a much more positive school community than the schools I know that segregate activities for only AAP.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2013 10:22     Subject: Re:Dont feel sorry let's move on to new LR AAP center!
Anonymous wrote:then the Cluster I kids who are moving to LR AAP center will leave their friends and then reunite with them again at middle school.


Yes, if you're talking about reuniting with kids who will stay at Haycock and then go to Longfellow. The kids you're describing will also leave most of their LR friends when they go to Longfellow, since most LR kids will go to Kilmer.

It just works out that way sometimes in FCPS, whether you're talking about GenEd or AAP assignments. You wouldn't always know it from DCUM, but kids remain friends with kids at other middle and high schools (lots of Langley kids with friends at McLean, lots of McLean kids with friends at Marshall, lots of Marshall kids with friends at Madison, lots of Madkison kids with friends at Oakton, etc.)
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2013 09:46     Subject: Re:Dont feel sorry let's move on to new LR AAP center!
Anonymous wrote:The principal can only do so much anyway. I would get to know the Lemon Road PTA and see about planning PTA AAP events next year and work through the school board to have them help get a quality program at Lemon Road.


Not a Lemon Road parent, but last I checked, the PTA schedules events for the school as a whole. I have children in AAP, and never, have there been PTA AAP events, they work on building community, not segregation.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2013 00:35     Subject: Re:Dont feel sorry let's move on to new LR AAP center!
then the Cluster I kids who are moving to LR AAP center will leave their friends and then reunite with them again at middle school.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2013 16:07     Subject: Re:Dont feel sorry let's move on to new LR AAP center!
Anonymous wrote:"All students assigned to the base schools Shrevewood, Lemon Road, and Westgate are out. Chesterbrook, Franklin Sherman, and Timber Lane can stay. "

pp, where did you find this confimation? thanks for the info.


If you look at the motions passed by the School Board at the January 24th meeting, you'd see this is correct, except that rising sixth graders at the three schools are grandfathered. It doesn't matter if the kids are zoned for Marshall or McLean.

http://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/Public

Anonymous
Post 01/28/2013 13:20     Subject: Re:Dont feel sorry let's move on to new LR AAP center!
"All students assigned to the base schools Shrevewood, Lemon Road, and Westgate are out. Chesterbrook, Franklin Sherman, and Timber Lane can stay. "

pp, where did you find this confimation? thanks for the info.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2013 12:42     Subject: Re:Dont feel sorry let's move on to new LR AAP center!
Anonymous wrote:"Sorry, I misread your posts. Cluster 1 LR kids (LR/Longfellow/McLean) kids are required to leave Haycock and return to LR. Other cluster 1 schools can stay. "

really, pp? you sounded pretty sure. I heard that all those cluster I kids (such as Westgate/Longfellow/McLean) are required to leave (from Haycock to LR). where could we find the official clarifications for this? thanks.


All students assigned to the base schools Shrevewood, Lemon Road, and Westgate are out. Chesterbrook, Franklin Sherman, and Timber Lane can stay.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2013 12:27     Subject: Re:Dont feel sorry let's move on to new LR AAP center!
"Sorry, I misread your posts. Cluster 1 LR kids (LR/Longfellow/McLean) kids are required to leave Haycock and return to LR. Other cluster 1 schools can stay. "

really, pp? you sounded pretty sure. I heard that all those cluster I kids (such as Westgate/Longfellow/McLean) are required to leave (from Haycock to LR). where could we find the official clarifications for this? thanks.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2013 11:15     Subject: Re:Dont feel sorry let's move on to new LR AAP center!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:does anyone know the fate of the Cluster I kids whose base school are not Haycock? are they required to move to LR as well? thanks for the info!


Yes. Although the arguments were done by cluster, the redistricting is being done by base ES, not by cluster, and is actually sending some kids out of their cluster.


Sorry, I misread your posts. Cluster 1 LR kids (LR/Longfellow/McLean) kids are required to leave Haycock and return to LR. Other cluster 1 schools can stay.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2013 11:13     Subject: Re:Dont feel sorry let's move on to new LR AAP center!
Anonymous wrote:does anyone know the fate of the Cluster I kids whose base school are not Haycock? are they required to move to LR as well? thanks for the info!


Yes. Although the arguments were done by cluster, the redistricting is being done by base ES, not by cluster, and is actually sending some kids out of their cluster.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2013 11:10     Subject: Re:Dont feel sorry let's move on to new LR AAP center!
does anyone know the fate of the Cluster I kids whose base school are not Haycock? are they required to move to LR as well? thanks for the info!
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2013 10:47     Subject: Re:Dont feel sorry let's move on to new LR AAP center!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:everything has room to improve -- Lemon Road is no exception! Lemon Road will and should get better! why are you feeling so defensive? none of the kids who is moving to LR is on the voluntary basis! SB and County ask them to! the kids have the right to demand the standard of learning as they have been given before! if the county and/or LR cannot provide, we just heard the empty promise!


One thing you have stated is incorrect. AAP IS voluntary. As a parent you can choose to send your child to an AAP center or keep your child at your base school. Other parents do it and their students go on to AAP in middle school and take honors/AP at McLean or enroll in the IB program at Marshall, some even still get into TJ. Just FYI, there is no such thing as AAP in high school. In 9th/10th grade it is only gen ed/ honors. AP is not until 11th/12th.
As a previous poster stated, if you want to be welcomed into a school community come in and ask how things are done and work within the framework that already exists. The School Board is providing the space, But last I checked it is the principal that makes the decision on how he implements a program in the school, not the parents. I can tell you that a group of parents coming in and telling the principal how to run his school is not going make this transition an easy one.


The pp did not say that AAP was not voluntary. He/she said that the move was not voluntary, and that is a fact. Every cluster 2 kid is required to move.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2013 10:37     Subject: Re:Dont feel sorry let's move on to new LR AAP center!
The principal can only do so much anyway. I would get to know the Lemon Road PTA and see about planning PTA AAP events next year and work through the school board to have them help get a quality program at Lemon Road.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2013 09:55     Subject: Re:Dont feel sorry let's move on to new LR AAP center!
Anonymous wrote:everything has room to improve -- Lemon Road is no exception! Lemon Road will and should get better! why are you feeling so defensive? none of the kids who is moving to LR is on the voluntary basis! SB and County ask them to! the kids have the right to demand the standard of learning as they have been given before! if the county and/or LR cannot provide, we just heard the empty promise!


One thing you have stated is incorrect. AAP IS voluntary. As a parent you can choose to send your child to an AAP center or keep your child at your base school. Other parents do it and their students go on to AAP in middle school and take honors/AP at McLean or enroll in the IB program at Marshall, some even still get into TJ. Just FYI, there is no such thing as AAP in high school. In 9th/10th grade it is only gen ed/ honors. AP is not until 11th/12th.
As a previous poster stated, if you want to be welcomed into a school community come in and ask how things are done and work within the framework that already exists. The School Board is providing the space, But last I checked it is the principal that makes the decision on how he implements a program in the school, not the parents. I can tell you that a group of parents coming in and telling the principal how to run his school is not going make this transition an easy one.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2013 22:44     Subject: Re:Dont feel sorry let's move on to new LR AAP center!
Anonymous wrote:21:11 Could that possibly be related to the demographics of the two schools? In math 10 3rd graders failed at Haycock while 6 did at Lemon Road. Haycock was 4% free or reduced fees and 7% Limited English Proficiency. Lemon Road was 26% free or reduced fees and 23% LEP. Might those numbers affect the percentages passing the SOLs? Luther Jackson MS, which has a great AAP center, had 28% of its 7th graders fail the math SOL last year with 41% of its population getting free or reduced fees and 27% being LEP. Clearly demographics of the student population affect pass rates.


exactly you need to take a look at the demographics at the schools. LRES has a completely different ratio of Free/reduced lunch, ESOL and special ed. In addition, one other thing that is not well known, there area a number of students already at Lemon Road that qualified for AAP, could have gone to Haycock AND choose to keep their children at Lemon Road because of the quality of education, the teachers, small class size and the family community that the school has to offer. Every child at Lemon Road has a name and is not just a number. The school is already a great place to be, with a well established PTA and is welcoming to all. Just ask any pupil placed family and the families from Freedom Hill that joined us in September. We welcome everyone. Lemon Road's base community wants one community not a community divided.. please do not try and create one.