Anonymous
01/29/2013 22:43
Subject: PSA: 2012 lottery results
Actually, at Cooke they moved all the way through the wait list. There were a lot of in bounds parents who got in through the lottery (it's the only place they got in) but they ended up ultimately turning down the slot when their charter school backups came through, so Cooke did go all the way through its wait list last year.
Parents who are IB for the 'on the edge' schools like Marie Reed and Cooke apply for those schools as safety schools but then run away when they get in anywhere else. Too bad; they're actually decent schools.
Parents who are IB for the 'on the edge' schools like Marie Reed and Cooke apply for those schools as safety schools but then run away when they get in anywhere else. Too bad; they're actually decent schools.
Anonymous
01/25/2013 10:19
Subject: PSA: 2012 lottery results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:West of the park is where I'm looking. My in bounds school is not an option, obviously, or I wouldn't be worried.
Oh, yeah. Sorry. Barring a miracle, it's not happening. Most of those schools are over-enrolled. Now you know!
Oh my - I am going nuts. I meant I am looking EAST of the park. Clearly my kid needs a better public education than the one I received.
I'm also in Ward 5, but the bottom part much closer to Ward 6.
Hi there. I'm in Ward 4 and went through this insanity last year for PS3. We put Thomson, Barnard, Cleveland, Marie Reed and Francis-Stevens on our list (decent schools within proximity of home or office that we thought we might have SOME chance of getting into). Got waitlisted at all and never received a call from any. Probably should have put Takoma EC on there but I doubt we would have had much of a chance there either. We also applied to LAMB (no chance in hell, which of course panned out), EL Haynes (ditto), Mundo Verde, Inspired Teaching, Cap City and AppleTree. Got a call from Apple Tree and turned the spot down. Moved up the lists on others but nowhere near the point where we'd be offered a spot.
It's all a crap shoot, but in our opinion when it came to the DCPS lottery we didn't even bother with the really "aspirational" schools, because the reality is that there are too many IB and OOB with a sibling preference kids who apply for first-timers to have ANY chance. I'm not sure that any of this will mean anything or be helpful, but. . . .
Good luck all!
Anonymous
01/25/2013 10:06
Subject: Re:PSA: 2012 lottery results
Based on that list, I would be avoid wasting an OOB application choice for preschool at Brent, Francis-Stevens, HD Cooke, Maury, Peabody, Ross, and Stoddert, with several others, like Thomson or Tyler, being marginal choices. There are just too many in-bound students to make it likely they would ever get to the straight-OOB applicant pool.
Of these, particularly bad ratios of seats to preference applicants who ended up waitlisted are at: Bancroft in Pre-K (14 seats, 20 waitlisted with preference), Barnard Pre-K (16 seats, 10 waitlisted with preference), Brent PS (38/21), Brightwood Pre-K (15/16), Bruce-Monroe Pre-K (5/14), Cleveland Dual Language PS (15/9) and Pre-K (4/3), Cleveland PS (14/11) and Pre-K (5/9) Francis-Stevens PS (22/22) Pre-K (0/20), Garrison PS (30/13) Pre-K (1/13), Cooke PS (30/28), Hyde Pre-K (19/32), JO Wilson Pre-K (0/15), Lafayette Pre-K (76/22), LaSalle PS (24/16) and Pre-K (4/21), Mann Pre-K (17/27), Marie Reed Dual language PS (15/9) Pre-K (7/7), Maury PS (35/52) Pre-K (13/6), Miner Pre-K (9/8), Murch Pre-K (57/36), Oyster Pre-K (32/32), Payne PS (30/18), Peabody PS (45/81) Pre-K (44/29), Powell Pre-K (3/16), Raymond Pre-K (14/10), Ross PS (14/21) Pre-K (4/8), SWS Pre-K (38/21), Simon Pre-K (3/5), Stanton Pre-K (8/5), Stoddert PS (38/26), Thomson PS (31/15) Pre-K (0/23), Truesdell PS (30/19) Pre-K (8/33), Tyler PS (30/15), Walker-Jones Pre-K (0/8), Wheatley Pre-K (4/10), Whittier Pre-K (7/10), Winston PS (15/8) Pre-K (5/5)
Anonymous
01/24/2013 18:48
Subject: Re:PSA: 2012 lottery results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And as others have mentioned, there are some schools whose IB students may have gotten in somewhere else that they preferenced higher, thus giving the impression that IB students were unable to get in. I also don't know if there's a public database on that - it might require looking at individual student data by their lottery number, and seeing if IB students had gotten in at another school higher on their list.
You can tell this by looking at the first chart and seeing if any OOB students were admitted. Because of how the preferences wrk if any OOB student got in that means any waitlsited IB student ranked another school higher.
Yup, exactly. I remember being very confused by this a few years ago. Why were in-boundary kids waitlisted when OOB got in?
Glad they're doing away with waitlisting people at schools they listed lower on the list. It will make this chart more straightforward next year
Anonymous
01/24/2013 18:15
Subject: Re:PSA: 2012 lottery results
Anonymous wrote:And as others have mentioned, there are some schools whose IB students may have gotten in somewhere else that they preferenced higher, thus giving the impression that IB students were unable to get in. I also don't know if there's a public database on that - it might require looking at individual student data by their lottery number, and seeing if IB students had gotten in at another school higher on their list.
You can tell this by looking at the first chart and seeing if any OOB students were admitted. Because of how the preferences wrk if any OOB student got in that means any waitlsited IB student ranked another school higher.
Anonymous
01/24/2013 17:51
Subject: Re:PSA: 2012 lottery results
As others have mentioned, you'd have to also check how many eventually got off the waitlist after the initial lottery. I don't know if there's a public database on that - you may just have to call the school you're interested in.
Another factor is how many total seats. A school with only one class per grade may not get quite as far in their waitlist as a school with several classes per grade.
And as others have mentioned, there are some schools whose IB students may have gotten in somewhere else that they preferenced higher, thus giving the impression that IB students were unable to get in. I also don't know if there's a public database on that - it might require looking at individual student data by their lottery number, and seeing if IB students had gotten in at another school higher on their list.
At many open houses the year we looked, the principals had anywhere between a vague and a very specific idea of their own initial and eventual lottery results. It doesn't hurt to ask if there's a school you're really interested in and you're trying to make sense of your list!
Another factor is how many total seats. A school with only one class per grade may not get quite as far in their waitlist as a school with several classes per grade.
And as others have mentioned, there are some schools whose IB students may have gotten in somewhere else that they preferenced higher, thus giving the impression that IB students were unable to get in. I also don't know if there's a public database on that - it might require looking at individual student data by their lottery number, and seeing if IB students had gotten in at another school higher on their list.
At many open houses the year we looked, the principals had anywhere between a vague and a very specific idea of their own initial and eventual lottery results. It doesn't hurt to ask if there's a school you're really interested in and you're trying to make sense of your list!