Anonymous
12/29/2012 16:02
Subject: Who is paying for armed guards in every school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Note too, the Columbine shooters original plan:
11:17
After placing two 20-lb. propane bombs in the cafeteria, Harris and Klebold go back out to the student parking lots to sit in their respective cars and wait for the bombs to explode.
· From their cars, they have a clear view of the cafeteria area. Based on comments Klebold and Harris made in their homemade videotapes, the investigation determined the two planned to shoot any surviving students able to escape from the cafeteria after the bombs exploded.
· Klebold and Harris also have bombs constructed with timers in their cars, set to go off once they go back into the school.
Dammit, not was have to ban Home Depot!
It's also pretty relevant that all of their bombs failed. All of their guns worked. If the second amendment covered pipe bombs, they would have bought them from H&K online, all of them would have worked, and we would be arguing with you over what blast radius should be permitted.
Some bombs worked. One gun jammed.
All four guns worked, although one later jammed. Only a couple of their 67 bombs went off. They had lots of knives, too, but didn't use them. Guns are the most efficient weapon to kill humans. And convenient, too. Walmart, America's top gun profiteer, sells them.
Anonymous
12/29/2012 15:46
Subject: Who is paying for armed guards in every school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Note too, the Columbine shooters original plan:
11:17
After placing two 20-lb. propane bombs in the cafeteria, Harris and Klebold go back out to the student parking lots to sit in their respective cars and wait for the bombs to explode.
· From their cars, they have a clear view of the cafeteria area. Based on comments Klebold and Harris made in their homemade videotapes, the investigation determined the two planned to shoot any surviving students able to escape from the cafeteria after the bombs exploded.
· Klebold and Harris also have bombs constructed with timers in their cars, set to go off once they go back into the school.
Dammit, not was have to ban Home Depot!
It's also pretty relevant that all of their bombs failed. All of their guns worked. If the second amendment covered pipe bombs, they would have bought them from H&K online, all of them would have worked, and we would be arguing with you over what blast radius should be permitted.
Some bombs worked. One gun jammed.
Anonymous
12/29/2012 13:42
Subject: Who is paying for armed guards in every school?
Bottom line: Having an armed "good guy" did not prevent the tragedy. More importantly, the shooters KNEW there was an armed guard in the school, but it did not deter them. Maybe there are too many guns floating around society.
Anonymous
12/29/2012 13:34
Subject: Who is paying for armed guards in every school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was an armed guard at Columbine. He and Harris exchanged gunfire but neither hit the other.
Not sure an armed guard is the answer.
Not true. That was a responding police officer.
It IS true. Why don't you look things up before posting as if you know what you are talking about???
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/21/columbine-armed-guards_n_2347096.html
You keep reading the Huff Post. I'll read an actual newspaper. In the NY Daily News:
"Neil Gardner, who was stationed at the school but was not there when gunmen attacked"
"Gardner rushed back to the school after Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold began the gruesome rampage that left 13 people dead and 24 injured on April 20, 1999."
This report is wrong. Gardner was on school property, in his patrol car eating lunch while monitoring the " smoker's pit." He exchanged gunfire with the gunmen after they placed the bombs, but before they actually shot anybody. Because he was already in is car he probably got to the back parking lot FASTER than had he been on foot. Please do some real research before posting bad info on here.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2000/columbine.cd/Pages/DEPUTIES_TEXT.htm
Anonymous
12/26/2012 09:42
Subject: Who is paying for armed guards in every school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Note too, the Columbine shooters original plan:
11:17
After placing two 20-lb. propane bombs in the cafeteria, Harris and Klebold go back out to the student parking lots to sit in their respective cars and wait for the bombs to explode.
· From their cars, they have a clear view of the cafeteria area. Based on comments Klebold and Harris made in their homemade videotapes, the investigation determined the two planned to shoot any surviving students able to escape from the cafeteria after the bombs exploded.
· Klebold and Harris also have bombs constructed with timers in their cars, set to go off once they go back into the school.
Dammit, not was have to ban Home Depot!
It's also pretty relevant that all of their bombs failed. All of their guns worked. If the second amendment covered pipe bombs, they would have bought them from H&K online, all of them would have worked, and we would be arguing with you over what blast radius should be permitted.
Anonymous
12/26/2012 09:37
Subject: Who is paying for armed guards in every school?
Especially abortion and government workers pay. 90%
Anonymous
12/26/2012 08:57
Subject: Who is paying for armed guards in every school?
Anonymous wrote:
Dammit, not was have to ban Home Depot!
Trying to parse this.... You mean "now we have to ban Home Depot?" right?
Try not to let the perfect be the enemy of the good enough. We know we can't prevent ALL violence, but all steps big and small will bring us to a less violent place.
Anonymous
12/26/2012 07:27
Subject: Who is paying for armed guards in every school?
Anonymous wrote:Note too, the Columbine shooters original plan:
11:17
After placing two 20-lb. propane bombs in the cafeteria, Harris and Klebold go back out to the student parking lots to sit in their respective cars and wait for the bombs to explode.
· From their cars, they have a clear view of the cafeteria area. Based on comments Klebold and Harris made in their homemade videotapes, the investigation determined the two planned to shoot any surviving students able to escape from the cafeteria after the bombs exploded.
· Klebold and Harris also have bombs constructed with timers in their cars, set to go off once they go back into the school.
Dammit, not was have to ban Home Depot!
Anonymous
12/26/2012 07:26
Subject: Who is paying for armed guards in every school?
Note too, the Columbine shooters original plan:
11:17
After placing two 20-lb. propane bombs in the cafeteria, Harris and Klebold go back out to the student parking lots to sit in their respective cars and wait for the bombs to explode.
· From their cars, they have a clear view of the cafeteria area. Based on comments Klebold and Harris made in their homemade videotapes, the investigation determined the two planned to shoot any surviving students able to escape from the cafeteria after the bombs exploded.
· Klebold and Harris also have bombs constructed with timers in their cars, set to go off once they go back into the school.
11:17
After placing two 20-lb. propane bombs in the cafeteria, Harris and Klebold go back out to the student parking lots to sit in their respective cars and wait for the bombs to explode.
· From their cars, they have a clear view of the cafeteria area. Based on comments Klebold and Harris made in their homemade videotapes, the investigation determined the two planned to shoot any surviving students able to escape from the cafeteria after the bombs exploded.
· Klebold and Harris also have bombs constructed with timers in their cars, set to go off once they go back into the school.
Anonymous
12/26/2012 07:22
Subject: Who is paying for armed guards in every school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was an armed guard at Columbine. He and Harris exchanged gunfire but neither hit the other.
Not sure an armed guard is the answer.
Not true. That was a responding police officer.
It IS true. Why don't you look things up before posting as if you know what you are talking about???
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/21/columbine-armed-guards_n_2347096.html
You keep reading the Huff Post. I'll read an actual newspaper. In the NY Daily News:
"Neil Gardner, who was stationed at the school but was not there when gunmen attacked"
"Gardner rushed back to the school after Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold began the gruesome rampage that left 13 people dead and 24 injured on April 20, 1999."
Anonymous
12/26/2012 07:18
Subject: Re:Who is paying for armed guards in every school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The NRA said they would pay for it? I didn't watch the news conference but here is a quote from the article:
Given federal spending in areas such as foreign affairs, "can't we afford to put a police officer in every single school?" LaPierre asked.
That seems to imply the federal government is supposed to pay for it. The article also notes there are at least 132,000 schools in the US. If we pay each armed guard about $100,000 (not sure the going rate for armed guards), that is a cost of $13 billion per year. Didn't realize the NRA had so much money...
Do it on a local level. Police, Sheriff, whatever. Taking an officer and placing them in the school for a three month rotation is not going to cost that much. It could be subsidized by the government, but I don't see why it would need to be a big bureaucratic nightmare.
Because libs don't understand the concept of 'local level'. Look at these responses!
Anonymous
12/26/2012 07:14
Subject: Who is paying for armed guards in every school?
Who's paying to educate all the illegal children in this county alone, one of the largest sanctuaries in the country?
Anonymous
12/23/2012 11:06
Subject: Re:Who is paying for armed guards in every school?
Was researching the above to see if it was true (mass shootings caused by former Vietnam Vets) and haven't found that yet.
But I did find this database:
http://www.nycrimecommission.org/initiative1-shootings.php
But I did find this database:
http://www.nycrimecommission.org/initiative1-shootings.php
Anonymous
12/23/2012 10:18
Subject: Who is paying for armed guards in every school?
No way. Armed security guards are often former military. We don't support our vets with the mental health services they often need. It's a vicious cycle. Remember when "going postal" was "common" in post offices in the 80s? They were often Vietnam Vets. Veteran hiring preferences and all that. I don't want people with guns near my kids, period, until we care as a nation about the mental health side of all of this as well.
Anonymous
12/23/2012 10:04
Subject: Who is paying for armed guards in every school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There was an armed guard at Columbine. He and Harris exchanged gunfire but neither hit the other.
Not sure an armed guard is the answer.
Not true. That was a responding police officer.
It IS true. Why don't you look things up before posting as if you know what you are talking about???
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/21/columbine-armed-guards_n_2347096.html