Anonymous wrote:I don't recommend IEP for any child whatsoever. This is an old post, but I'm replying so if somebody else looks this up they can see. IEP will stigmatize your child. Your child will eventually give up because everything will be handed to them throughout the years. They will believe they're stupid and many teachers will talk down to them even if they don't mean to. When or if your child ever says "I don't want to be in IEP" LISTEN TO THEM. Please talk to them about how they feel being in it. The system is incredibly flawed, but nobody seems to be saying a single thing about it, so that's another reason why I'm replying. The goal for IEP is not to help the child learn or find a certain learning ability that'll help your child learn better, but to make sure their grades look good so the school overall can look better. This means they'll basically give you the answers instead of teaching you the material. Kids in IEP will eventually give up because of this. They're drive for learning will disappear because they never had to try in the first place and constantly taken out of class during teaching time. It's absolutely horrible. I've seen students in IEP laugh about how they're the "stupid kids." I've seen teachers act passive aggressively towards these students. Teachers sometimes even say "you'll need IEP to go forward in life." Which is ridiculous because making a child think they NEED this extra 'help' to get through life is depressing. What I recommend is a one on one tutor that is willing to find out a way to teach your child in a way they'll understand better. The problem with high school is that it's all about grades, not about learning. Teachers don't look for the best way to help a child understand, but instead teach in the same generic and boring way. It's about remembering material word for word, not about learning.

Anonymous wrote:I don't recommend IEP for any child whatsoever. This is an old post, but I'm replying so if somebody else looks this up they can see. IEP will stigmatize your child. Your child will eventually give up because everything will be handed to them throughout the years. They will believe they're stupid and many teachers will talk down to them even if they don't mean to. When or if your child ever says "I don't want to be in IEP" LISTEN TO THEM. Please talk to them about how they feel being in it. The system is incredibly flawed, but nobody seems to be saying a single thing about it, so that's another reason why I'm replying. The goal for IEP is not to help the child learn or find a certain learning ability that'll help your child learn better, but to make sure their grades look good so the school overall can look better. This means they'll basically give you the answers instead of teaching you the material. Kids in IEP will eventually give up because of this. They're drive for learning will disappear because they never had to try in the first place and constantly taken out of class during teaching time. It's absolutely horrible. I've seen students in IEP laugh about how they're the "stupid kids." I've seen teachers act passive aggressively towards these students. Teachers sometimes even say "you'll need IEP to go forward in life." Which is ridiculous because making a child think they NEED this extra 'help' to get through life is depressing. What I recommend is a one on one tutor that is willing to find out a way to teach your child in a way they'll understand better. The problem with high school is that it's all about grades, not about learning. Teachers don't look for the best way to help a child understand, but instead teach in the same generic and boring way. It's about remembering material word for word, not about learning.

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Anonymous wrote:A child in 3rd grade with significant enough sensory issues to be causing problems in the classroom does need supports or accommodations. That PP needs to get a full evaluation and perhaps an FBA (functional behavioral analysis) to get to the root cause. No interventions or the wrong interventions can be equally problematic in different ways.

And, to add, that needing supports for the behaviors/sensory issues is not inconsistent with testing into a talented and gifted center.

Anonymous wrote:A child in 3rd grade with significant enough sensory issues to be causing problems in the classroom does need supports or accommodations. That PP needs to get a full evaluation and perhaps an FBA (functional behavioral analysis) to get to the root cause. No interventions or the wrong interventions can be equally problematic in different ways.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't recommend IEP for any child whatsoever. This is an old post, but I'm replying so if somebody else looks this up they can see. IEP will stigmatize your child. Your child will eventually give up because everything will be handed to them throughout the years. They will believe they're stupid and many teachers will talk down to them even if they don't mean to. When or if your child ever says "I don't want to be in IEP" LISTEN TO THEM. Please talk to them about how they feel being in it. The system is incredibly flawed, but nobody seems to be saying a single thing about it, so that's another reason why I'm replying. The goal for IEP is not to help the child learn or find a certain learning ability that'll help your child learn better, but to make sure their grades look good so the school overall can look better. This means they'll basically give you the answers instead of teaching you the material. Kids in IEP will eventually give up because of this. They're drive for learning will disappear because they never had to try in the first place and constantly taken out of class during teaching time. It's absolutely horrible. I've seen students in IEP laugh about how they're the "stupid kids." I've seen teachers act passive aggressively towards these students. Teachers sometimes even say "you'll need IEP to go forward in life." Which is ridiculous because making a child think they NEED this extra 'help' to get through life is depressing. What I recommend is a one on one tutor that is willing to find out a way to teach your child in a way they'll understand better. The problem with high school is that it's all about grades, not about learning. Teachers don't look for the best way to help a child understand, but instead teach in the same generic and boring way. It's about remembering material word for word, not about learning.

Are you a parent of a kid receiving special education, a former student, or a teacher?

An IEP is not something that a child is "in." It's a document that shows what services a student should get and the specific things (goals) that those services are working on. Sometimes a modified curriculum is part of the IEP, but not necessarily.

Getting services is a hell of a lot better than failing because of the absence of services.

If high school for you was all about grades, not learning, then you either went to a bad high school or didn't get from it what you should.

Anonymous wrote:My child has gone from testing into a highly competitive gifted program in another state, to being evaluated here. The report listed examples of behavior that I don't think are much outside the norm--getting excited in class, interrupting, reading at lunch instead of playing, etc. I never thought I'd say this... But I think some of the issues are cultural. All the other kids come from a different background than we do. They are into sports. They are into cheerleading. My child likes comic books and stories. When told not to do something, my child does listen. Instead of this evaluation being focused on the sensory issues my child definitely does have, they seem to be implying that everything wrong is behavioral.

I am not sure what to do.

Anonymous wrote:I don't recommend IEP for any child whatsoever. This is an old post, but I'm replying so if somebody else looks this up they can see. IEP will stigmatize your child. Your child will eventually give up because everything will be handed to them throughout the years. They will believe they're stupid and many teachers will talk down to them even if they don't mean to. When or if your child ever says "I don't want to be in IEP" LISTEN TO THEM. Please talk to them about how they feel being in it. The system is incredibly flawed, but nobody seems to be saying a single thing about it, so that's another reason why I'm replying. The goal for IEP is not to help the child learn or find a certain learning ability that'll help your child learn better, but to make sure their grades look good so the school overall can look better. This means they'll basically give you the answers instead of teaching you the material. Kids in IEP will eventually give up because of this. They're drive for learning will disappear because they never had to try in the first place and constantly taken out of class during teaching time. It's absolutely horrible. I've seen students in IEP laugh about how they're the "stupid kids." I've seen teachers act passive aggressively towards these students. Teachers sometimes even say "you'll need IEP to go forward in life." Which is ridiculous because making a child think they NEED this extra 'help' to get through life is depressing. What I recommend is a one on one tutor that is willing to find out a way to teach your child in a way they'll understand better. The problem with high school is that it's all about grades, not about learning. Teachers don't look for the best way to help a child understand, but instead teach in the same generic and boring way. It's about remembering material word for word, not about learning.

Anonymous wrote:I don't recommend IEP for any child whatsoever. This is an old post, but I'm replying so if somebody else looks this up they can see. IEP will stigmatize your child. Your child will eventually give up because everything will be handed to them throughout the years. They will believe they're stupid and many teachers will talk down to them even if they don't mean to. When or if your child ever says "I don't want to be in IEP" LISTEN TO THEM. Please talk to them about how they feel being in it. The system is incredibly flawed, but nobody seems to be saying a single thing about it, so that's another reason why I'm replying. The goal for IEP is not to help the child learn or find a certain learning ability that'll help your child learn better, but to make sure their grades look good so the school overall can look better. This means they'll basically give you the answers instead of teaching you the material. Kids in IEP will eventually give up because of this. They're drive for learning will disappear because they never had to try in the first place and constantly taken out of class during teaching time. It's absolutely horrible. I've seen students in IEP laugh about how they're the "stupid kids." I've seen teachers act passive aggressively towards these students. Teachers sometimes even say "you'll need IEP to go forward in life." Which is ridiculous because making a child think they NEED this extra 'help' to get through life is depressing. What I recommend is a one on one tutor that is willing to find out a way to teach your child in a way they'll understand better. The problem with high school is that it's all about grades, not about learning. Teachers don't look for the best way to help a child understand, but instead teach in the same generic and boring way. It's about remembering material word for word, not about learning.