Anonymous
Post 09/23/2012 15:09     Subject: Romney's tax returns are out
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Anonymous wrote:
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jsteele wrote:In pure Mittens style, he artificially inflated his tax rate. He didn't take the deduction on $1.75 million in 2011 charitable donations. Otherwise, his rate would have been less than 12%.

Previously, Romney said that if he paid more taxes than were required, he wouldn't be qualified to be president. So, I guess we should take him at his word.



I found this strange as well. I also love how they are spinning the "he gave 30% of this income to charity", without mentioning that the charity is the Mormon church and that the "donation" is not exactly "voluntary".


What makes you think it is all the the Church?



Because its right there on this tax return - statement 4. He gave $1,115,484 to the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints the other $200K went to an outfit called the Tyler Foundation. So, Mitt gave $200K to charity in 2011.


Giving money to the church is not the same as giving it to "charity". The church of course can and does use donations for a variety of things. Some are charitable causes and some are not. For just one example, the LDS church used donations to fight proposition 8 in California. That has nothing at all to do with charity.


But that poster was in error. He gave 3 million to charity after the church.

Do you count giving to other religious organizations as not giving to charity? The catholic church does political work too.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2012 08:39     Subject: Romney's tax returns are out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:In pure Mittens style, he artificially inflated his tax rate. He didn't take the deduction on $1.75 million in 2011 charitable donations. Otherwise, his rate would have been less than 12%.

Previously, Romney said that if he paid more taxes than were required, he wouldn't be qualified to be president. So, I guess we should take him at his word.



I found this strange as well. I also love how they are spinning the "he gave 30% of this income to charity", without mentioning that the charity is the Mormon church and that the "donation" is not exactly "voluntary".


What makes you think it is all the the Church?



Because its right there on this tax return - statement 4. He gave $1,115,484 to the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints the other $200K went to an outfit called the Tyler Foundation. So, Mitt gave $200K to charity in 2011.


Giving money to the church is not the same as giving it to "charity". The church of course can and does use donations for a variety of things. Some are charitable causes and some are not. For just one example, the LDS church used donations to fight proposition 8 in California. That has nothing at all to do with charity.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2012 22:13     Subject: Romney's tax returns are out
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Anonymous wrote:Guess everyone here will just gloss over Romney's $4 million in charitable contributions. Maybe if he gave $5,300 like the cheap SOB Biden this would get more play.
More fun to just call him Mittens, well done.


When you have over $10million in unearned income, I don't think it's that big of a deal to give $4 million to charity. Much of that money went to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, which requires its members to give at least 10% of their income, so one might not even consider it a voluntary contribution.

The Obamas and Biden's each had significantly less than a tenth of Romney's income. Any attempt to draw comparisons between their finances and Romney's is untenable.


mmmmmmm Kool Aid.



mmmmmmmmmmm... that's the sound of a wingnut losing his mind.

Which is worse: watching Romney lose, or spending four months trying to pretend you believe in him, knowing that the eight real conservatives were all found to be unelectable?
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2012 22:08     Subject: Romney's tax returns are out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Guess everyone here will just gloss over Romney's $4 million in charitable contributions. Maybe if he gave $5,300 like the cheap SOB Biden this would get more play.
More fun to just call him Mittens, well done.


When you have over $10million in unearned income, I don't think it's that big of a deal to give $4 million to charity. Much of that money went to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, which requires its members to give at least 10% of their income, so one might not even consider it a voluntary contribution.

The Obamas and Biden's each had significantly less than a tenth of Romney's income. Any attempt to draw comparisons between their finances and Romney's is untenable.


Is your 401k also unearned income? Or is that a "qualified" investment. Risk v. Reward....chump.


Uh, "unearned income" is a term in economics. One which has a meaning that you apparently do not realize.

You should not shoot off your mouth without at least googling things that you do not understand.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2012 21:39     Subject: Romney's tax returns are out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Guess everyone here will just gloss over Romney's $4 million in charitable contributions. Maybe if he gave $5,300 like the cheap SOB Biden this would get more play.
More fun to just call him Mittens, well done.


When you have over $10million in unearned income, I don't think it's that big of a deal to give $4 million to charity. Much of that money went to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, which requires its members to give at least 10% of their income, so one might not even consider it a voluntary contribution.

The Obamas and Biden's each had significantly less than a tenth of Romney's income. Any attempt to draw comparisons between their finances and Romney's is untenable.


Is your 401k also unearned income? Or is that a "qualified" investment. Risk v. Reward....chump.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2012 21:23     Subject: Romney's tax returns are out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Guess everyone here will just gloss over Romney's $4 million in charitable contributions. Maybe if he gave $5,300 like the cheap SOB Biden this would get more play.
More fun to just call him Mittens, well done.


When you have over $10million in unearned income, I don't think it's that big of a deal to give $4 million to charity. Much of that money went to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, which requires its members to give at least 10% of their income, so one might not even consider it a voluntary contribution.

The Obamas and Biden's each had significantly less than a tenth of Romney's income. Any attempt to draw comparisons between their finances and Romney's is untenable.


mmmmmmm Kool Aid.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2012 21:15     Subject: Romney's tax returns are out
Anonymous wrote:Guess everyone here will just gloss over Romney's $4 million in charitable contributions. Maybe if he gave $5,300 like the cheap SOB Biden this would get more play.
More fun to just call him Mittens, well done.


When you have over $10million in unearned income, I don't think it's that big of a deal to give $4 million to charity. Much of that money went to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, which requires its members to give at least 10% of their income, so one might not even consider it a voluntary contribution.

The Obamas and Biden's each had significantly less than a tenth of Romney's income. Any attempt to draw comparisons between their finances and Romney's is untenable.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2012 19:39     Subject: Romney's tax returns are out
Anonymous wrote:Guess everyone here will just gloss over Romney's $4 million in charitable contributions. Maybe if he gave $5,300 like the cheap SOB Biden this would get more play.
More fun to just call him Mittens, well done.


Gee, a really, really rich candidate gave a bunch of money in the year he wants to get elected. How clearly selfless.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2012 18:05     Subject: Romney's tax returns are out
Guess everyone here will just gloss over Romney's $4 million in charitable contributions. Maybe if he gave $5,300 like the cheap SOB Biden this would get more play.
More fun to just call him Mittens, well done.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2012 15:53     Subject: Romney's tax returns are out
Anonymous wrote:For me, it's not an aversion to nicknames; it's just that I find "Mittens" rather meaningless. I would prefer something apt, say if someone could find a fitting acronym for M. Romney. Anyone for Mr. Money?
IF you don't like mittens, how about Waffles?
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2012 15:09     Subject: Re:Romney's tax returns are out
Anonymous wrote:If you file an extension the year you run for president, you should be disqualified. You can't even apply for effing financial aid until your returns are complete.


I make no excuses for Willard and his offensive personality or positions, but he HAS to file an extension given the nature of his holdings.

Tax forms like K-1s from partnerships, etc., often are not ready by 4/15 and are not due until August. My mother's return is never ready to file until September because she owns pieces of some real estate partnerships.

Anonymous
Post 09/22/2012 13:03     Subject: Romney's tax returns are out
For me, it's not an aversion to nicknames; it's just that I find "Mittens" rather meaningless. I would prefer something apt, say if someone could find a fitting acronym for M. Romney. Anyone for Mr. Money?
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2012 10:23     Subject: Romney's tax returns are out
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:In pure Mittens style, he artificially inflated his tax rate. He didn't take the deduction on $1.75 million in 2011 charitable donations. Otherwise, his rate would have been less than 12%.

Previously, Romney said that if he paid more taxes than were required, he wouldn't be qualified to be president. So, I guess we should take him at his word.


We like to call him "Mittens" because it makes us feel smart and clever. We live in Washington, DC you know.


Really, nicknames are now off limits? Didn't we put up with Slick Willie for a decade? I don't remember an outraged public scolding us ("that's just not right!")

When diid we get the sudden attack of the persnicketies? Or is it a touch of political amnesia?
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2012 09:18     Subject: Romney's tax returns are out
jsteele wrote:In pure Mittens style, he artificially inflated his tax rate. He didn't take the deduction on $1.75 million in 2011 charitable donations. Otherwise, his rate would have been less than 12%.

Previously, Romney said that if he paid more taxes than were required, he wouldn't be qualified to be president. So, I guess we should take him at his word.


We like to call him "Mittens" because it makes us feel smart and clever. We live in Washington, DC you know.
Anonymous
Post 09/22/2012 08:46     Subject: Re:Romney's tax returns are out
Anonymous wrote:If you file an extension the year you run for president, you should be disqualified. You can't even apply for effing financial aid until your returns are complete.


Dumb argument. We all know Romney is involved in partnerships. He has to wait for the partnerships to fully report information/distributions, which never happens before April 15, or even August.

Filing for an extension is literally something Romney couldn't control.

Signed, Obama voter.