Anonymous
Post 09/18/2012 15:15     Subject: Re:Why start a Spanish FLES program at a majority Hispanic school?
The school likely will have differentiated instruction for native-speakers, with an emphasis on reading/writing. Arlington does exactly that. As others have pointed out, just because you speak a language does not mean you can read/write it. I had a friend in high school who grew up with a French-speaking parent and used the language at home but took French in high school to learn how to read/write it. Not as easy as you might think...
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2012 21:00     Subject: Why start a Spanish FLES program at a majority Hispanic school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: 2) the kids that are English speaking but have Spanish speaking parents that would be taking the Spanish as a second language along with all the other English speaking students.


Maybe I can make it easier for you to understand this way: If I moved my family to a country where a different language were spoken primarily, I'd make myself solely responsible for ensuring my children learned THAT language. It's not the responsibility of that country's school system nor of their taxpayers. [/quote



You bore me with your ignorance.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2012 20:55     Subject: Why start a Spanish FLES program at a majority Hispanic school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: 2) the kids that are English speaking but have Spanish speaking parents that would be taking the Spanish as a second language along with all the other English speaking students.


Maybe I can make it easier for you to understand this way: If I moved my family to a country where a different language were spoken primarily, I'd make myself solely responsible for ensuring my children learned THAT language. It's not the responsibility of that country's school system nor of their taxpayers. [/quote

Anonymous
Post 09/17/2012 20:54     Subject: Re:Why start a Spanish FLES program at a majority Hispanic school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I meant by above what would be the best use of resources is in terms of what second langauge to teach as a foreign langauge? OR is it your premise that because these children are hispanic they should not be taught ANY foriegn langauge becuase their exposure to Spanish verbally at home is essentially the same as full mastery of a language and therefore they should not be given the benefit of being taught a second langauge?


My thought is making a majority Hispanic school a FLES school for Spanish should be a far lesser priority than teaching everyone English, be it through standard language arts instruction or ESOL resources.

I can think of better ways to spend the FCPS budget.


So the basic premise of your argument is that these children being brown and having Spanish surnames



...and that's exactly where I stopped reading your preachy post.


yawn.....
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2012 20:25     Subject: Re:Why start a Spanish FLES program at a majority Hispanic school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I meant by above what would be the best use of resources is in terms of what second langauge to teach as a foreign langauge? OR is it your premise that because these children are hispanic they should not be taught ANY foriegn langauge becuase their exposure to Spanish verbally at home is essentially the same as full mastery of a language and therefore they should not be given the benefit of being taught a second langauge?


My thought is making a majority Hispanic school a FLES school for Spanish should be a far lesser priority than teaching everyone English, be it through standard language arts instruction or ESOL resources.

I can think of better ways to spend the FCPS budget.


So the basic premise of your argument is that these children being brown and having Spanish surnames



...and that's exactly where I stopped reading your preachy post.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2012 20:25     Subject: Why start a Spanish FLES program at a majority Hispanic school?
Anonymous wrote: 2) the kids that are English speaking but have Spanish speaking parents that would be taking the Spanish as a second language along with all the other English speaking students.


Maybe I can make it easier for you to understand this way: If I moved my family to a country where a different language were spoken primarily, I'd make myself solely responsible for ensuring my children learned THAT language. It's not the responsibility of that country's school system nor of their taxpayers.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2012 17:14     Subject: Why start a Spanish FLES program at a majority Hispanic school?
Anonymous wrote:Based on what the OP wrote about her child's school and looking at the list of new FLES schools, all signs point to Rose Hill ES. The other schools listed either had too few students or really small Hispanic populations or didn't have Spanish as the FLES language.

Here are the Rose Hill demographics from 2011 (couldn't get any from 2012 yet)
729 students
--28% of students qualifying for ESOL services
--49% Hispanic
--33% identified as Limited English Proficient


I can 33% be LEP but only 28% qualify for ESOL services? Shouldn't every student identified as LEP be getting ESOL services?