Anonymous wrote:How about that last year under Bush? Was that good for your family, too? Or is that year somehow magically Obama's fault even though he wasn't in office?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm the OP that asked this question before. Thanks for trying again! Still can't get anyone to give us anything substantial, can we?
If they can't tell us what they expect from R/R OR tell us how all these things were better under Bush, maybe they can tell us what is so bad about Obama?
Come on, people! What policies are you so upset about? And WHY are you upset about hose policies?
there are several active Obama/Romney threads right now, and I have yet to see anyone give a real reason to dislike Obama. It's pretty disturbing.
Here is how Obama has affected my family and me.
Obamacare (screws medical sales companies)
Obama's threat to raise taxes on people and small business making over 250k a year.
Obama vilifying anyone that makes over 250k a year and proclaiming that taxes are for the good of all where as our donations to charities and churches are less important.
Yes the bush years were much better for our family. The promise of lower taxes and the fact that happened as well as better housing values. Granted those things are not under Obama's control, yes things were better under the Bush years. You asked right?
I am busy working so the above is a few things of a long list but I don't have time to write them all.
As you say give a real reason I have given more than 1 "real reason".
Anonymous wrote:ok, I'll take a stab at this.
i'm undecided, wholly around social issues and fear of rewarding bad behavior with the white house. but i read a lot of remarks by corp ceo's and they are frozen with uncertainty right now, thus are reluctant to hire.
i believe obama took on the wrong issue out of the box with health care and he and the economy has paid a price since. most of the stimulus money went to transfer payments and bailing out states instead of bricks and mortar--in my view a flawed decision.
dodd-frank is a full employment project for banking lawyers--jamie dimon asked a simple question: did anyone add up the cumulative impact of all the new regs? i think he got back a blank stare. i think there was little focus on the unintended consequences of a new massively complex bill. but i really think dems who want more stimulus spending don't have the background to understand the sand-in-the-gears impact of these and other new regs.
Keystone--should have been an easy call. it sends a terrible message and has much broader impact beyond one pipeline.
my bottom line--over the past decade there have been zero net private jobs in this country..any growth has been wholly in the public sector. there is, i think by now, an appreciation that public sector will not grow, so we must have private sector job growth. i fear that will not happen, or will not happen at a brisk pace, under a 2nd obama term.
now please don't go parsing speeches and ask me to cite "so where exactly does he trash big biz." i'm just saying the cumulative effect of 4 years of this administration is that they don't get how to set the table (and then get out of the way) for robust private sector job creation.
and, fundamentally, i think they don't understand govt's inability to do much here except harm. Was there a master fed policy to encourage growth in social media employment? Natural gas production?
but it's my bias--i think a govt should collect the revenue it needs for some core services--which includes a safety net--and then get out of the way. not every problem has a govt fix.
i think romney gets that far better than obama. doesn't mean i'll vote for him, but i sure don't appreciate being called stupid for so considering---particularly by the limo lib crowd.
Anonymous wrote:Great, lets end all wars
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Vote obama if you want more government jobs and programs.
Vote for romney of you want more private sector jobs.
Really, aren't you the same guy complaining about how he is cutting billions from th military? Exactly what sector is he military?
Anonymous wrote:ok, I'll take a stab at this.
i'm undecided, wholly around social issues and fear of rewarding bad behavior with the white house. but i read a lot of remarks by corp ceo's and they are frozen with uncertainty right now, thus are reluctant to hire.
i believe obama took on the wrong issue out of the box with health care and he and the economy has paid a price since. most of the stimulus money went to transfer payments and bailing out states instead of bricks and mortar--in my view a flawed decision.
dodd-frank is a full employment project for banking lawyers--jamie dimon asked a simple question: did anyone add up the cumulative impact of all the new regs? i think he got back a blank stare. i think there was little focus on the unintended consequences of a new massively complex bill. but i really think dems who want more stimulus spending don't have the background to understand the sand-in-the-gears impact of these and other new regs.
Keystone--should have been an easy call. it sends a terrible message and has much broader impact beyond one pipeline.
my bottom line--over the past decade there have been zero net private jobs in this country..any growth has been wholly in the public sector. there is, i think by now, an appreciation that public sector will not grow, so we must have private sector job growth. i fear that will not happen, or will not happen at a brisk pace, under a 2nd obama term.
now please don't go parsing speeches and ask me to cite "so where exactly does he trash big biz." i'm just saying the cumulative effect of 4 years of this administration is that they don't get how to set the table (and then get out of the way) for robust private sector job creation.
and, fundamentally, i think they don't understand govt's inability to do much here except harm. Was there a master fed policy to encourage growth in social media employment? Natural gas production?
but it's my bias--i think a govt should collect the revenue it needs for some core services--which includes a safety net--and then get out of the way. not every problem has a govt fix.
i think romney gets that far better than obama. doesn't mean i'll vote for him, but i sure don't appreciate being called stupid for so considering---particularly by the limo lib crowd.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ok, I'll take a stab at this.
I appreciate your ability to speak in full sentences so Im not going to attack you for it. You have some interesting points but please watch the debates and I think you will feel more confident in O and will have a clearer picture of his 2nd term vision. I will say that I strongly disagree about Keystone. I am an environmental scientist, and I know the impact would have been devastating and costly.
Thanks for sharing your view.
ok you were nice so I'll have a light touch too. Do you understand the code behind the "full sentence" crack? I understand that we're not drawing the leading lights of conservative thought here, but why should they hang here? Sry, but I have an intense loathing for the crowd that hates any company except Apple and Whole Foods. Maybe you have a good case against Keystone, but it would be helpful (and smart) of the greens to say if not keystone here's one we can support. That we get higher energy prices are a harsh tax on middle america and we all should be trying to help--which ain't gonna happen with wind and solar. That you can't say no to nuke, coal, oil..and then we get handed this gift of gas and we find a way to say no to that too? So ok to impose a regressive tax on a truck driver or carpenter...but hey don't touch my social security? I truly don't get it.
It's almost like a group of dcum'ers draws straw to see who's gonna be the caricature of the dumb republican that day.
Anonymous wrote:ok, I'll take a stab at this.
i'm undecided, wholly around social issues and fear of rewarding bad behavior with the white house. but i read a lot of remarks by corp ceo's and they are frozen with uncertainty right now, thus are reluctant to hire.
i believe obama took on the wrong issue out of the box with health care and he and the economy has paid a price since. most of the stimulus money went to transfer payments and bailing out states instead of bricks and mortar--in my view a flawed decision.
dodd-frank is a full employment project for banking lawyers--jamie dimon asked a simple question: did anyone add up the cumulative impact of all the new regs? i think he got back a blank stare. i think there was little focus on the unintended consequences of a new massively complex bill. but i really think dems who want more stimulus spending don't have the background to understand the sand-in-the-gears impact of these and other new regs.
Keystone--should have been an easy call. it sends a terrible message and has much broader impact beyond one pipeline.
my bottom line--over the past decade there have been zero net private jobs in this country..any growth has been wholly in the public sector. there is, i think by now, an appreciation that public sector will not grow, so we must have private sector job growth. i fear that will not happen, or will not happen at a brisk pace, under a 2nd obama term.
now please don't go parsing speeches and ask me to cite "so where exactly does he trash big biz." i'm just saying the cumulative effect of 4 years of this administration is that they don't get how to set the table (and then get out of the way) for robust private sector job creation.
and, fundamentally, i think they don't understand govt's inability to do much here except harm. Was there a master fed policy to encourage growth in social media employment? Natural gas production?
but it's my bias--i think a govt should collect the revenue it needs for some core services--which includes a safety net--and then get out of the way. not every problem has a govt fix.
i think romney gets that far better than obama. doesn't mean i'll vote for him, but i sure don't appreciate being called stupid for so considering---particularly by the limo lib crowd.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Vote obama if you want more government jobs and programs.
Vote for romney of you want more private sector jobs.
Really, aren't you the same guy complaining about how he is cutting billions from th military? Exactly what sector is he military?
How about that last year under Bush? Was that good for your family, too? Or is that year somehow magically Obama's fault even though he wasn't in office?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm the OP that asked this question before. Thanks for trying again! Still can't get anyone to give us anything substantial, can we?
If they can't tell us what they expect from R/R OR tell us how all these things were better under Bush, maybe they can tell us what is so bad about Obama?
Come on, people! What policies are you so upset about? And WHY are you upset about hose policies?
there are several active Obama/Romney threads right now, and I have yet to see anyone give a real reason to dislike Obama. It's pretty disturbing.
Here is how Obama has affected my family and me.
Obamacare (screws medical sales companies)
Obama's threat to raise taxes on people and small business making over 250k a year.
Obama vilifying anyone that makes over 250k a year and proclaiming that taxes are for the good of all where as our donations to charities and churches are less important.
Yes the bush years were much better for our family. The promise of lower taxes and the fact that happened as well as better housing values. Granted those things are not under Obama's control, yes things were better under the Bush years. You asked right?
I am busy working so the above is a few things of a long list but I don't have time to write them all.
As you say give a real reason I have given more than 1 "real reason".
Anonymous wrote:Vote obama if you want more government jobs and programs.
Vote for romney of you want more private sector jobs.