Anonymous
08/29/2012 22:30
Subject: Re:Anyone former Amish or date/marry someone who was Amish?
Wasn't there an Amish family where some of the older brothers raped their younger sister? And they wanted to keep it all hush hush within their community. Good and evil exists everywhere.
Anonymous
08/29/2012 22:22
Subject: Anyone former Amish or date/marry someone who was Amish?
Anonymous wrote:How can the amish get away with not educating their kids? Is school not a basic right?
Sounds like a dangerous cult from the middle ages that should be stopped
I'm laughing at you. You know nothing about the Amish. They're universally kind and hardworking, and their child abuse rates approach zero. Even in the communities that allow a year away ("Rumspringa") the vast majority choose to return.
As for having sex with an Amish farm hunk, I'm laughing at you, too. It was pretty much unthinkable where I grew up. In all my years living near and working with the Amish (I used to work in the front office at a doctor's office with a big Amish clientele) I never heard of any relationships between Amish and English.
Anonymous
08/29/2012 20:45
Subject: Anyone former Amish or date/marry someone who was Amish?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can the amish get away with not educating their kids? Is school not a basic right?
Sounds like a dangerous cult from the middle ages that should be stopped
They do educate their children, just not the same number of years that most people do. The Supreme Court ruled compulsory education couldn't be imposed upon the Amish as it would violate their right to religious freedom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_v._Yoder . Read the opinion see it's limitations - like the religion had to have been established prior to 1950 to qualify for an exemption.
You also need to do more research about the Amish to understand they are hardly dangerous (they're pacificists and didn't even represent themselves before the Supreme Court). They also aren't from the middle ages - just pre-industrial revolution.
Are you honestly saying that that is not a form of child abuse?
Relgious freedom??? Right to stay simple.... you can be educated and simple, or is that not possible.
They are dangerous if they do that, the lives of members are closely monitored, and they can be cruel. Cutting beards and shunning etc
What about people who homeschool? Or "homeschool" as the case may be. There's not much regulating that practice. Did you see Jesus Camp? Those poor kids won't have a clue.
Anonymous
08/29/2012 20:17
Subject: Anyone former Amish or date/marry someone who was Amish?
Anonymous wrote:My cousin just married a Mennonite. The booze flowed freely at the reception.
As PPs have indicated, there's a wide range of Mennonite sects. My college roommate was Mennonite but she and her siblings all drank and smoked pot. Her dad served plenty of booze when we went to visit.
Anonymous
08/29/2012 19:46
Subject: Anyone former Amish or date/marry someone who was Amish?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm living proof that there is a difference between Amish and most Mennonites. I am a Mennonite, though I was not born one.and yes, there are great differences between types of Amish too.
You must be one of those cool
Mennonites someone was just telling me about
I am the quoted PP:
I guess it depends on how you define "progressive". My congregation has never been what I call "conservative Mennonite" (though in a political sense most of us would still be labeled conservative)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I'm living proof that there is a difference between Amish and most Mennonites. I am a Mennonite, though I was not born one. and yes, there are great differences between types of Amish too.
What are the some of the things a lot of people confuse between the two?
A lot of people think they are basically the same, driving buggies, wearing plain clothes, going without electronics etc. While as a pp has pointed out, there is at least one über conservative Mennoite group who is more strict then the Amish, this is not at all the norm. You would be hard pressed to point out any of my fellow church members in a crowd. We have no church standards as far as clothing (except that being modest is valued) or really any church rules about anything. While we have beliefs based off of the Bible, you'd have to being doing something drastic to be asked to leave (like sexual harassment or something). There is nothing like shunning in any Mennonite church I'm familiar with. My congregation is not old, it is only been around for 25 years, myself and my family have attended for 15 years now. Before that we went to a different Christian denomination.
Our faith is based on our relationships with Jesus, not a set of rules. Though we all have standards we set for ourselves as far as what we believe God says is sin. For example, and please don't attack me for this, I do believe that homosexual behavior (not attraction, only the choice to act on that attraction) is a sin. BUT I love the people, I have friends and family members that I am close to that I can disagree with but still love and hang out with. I also do not think that homosexual behavior is any "more a sin" than the other sins that can be a temptation for me such as greed, gossip, pride, heterosexual sex outside of marriage and so many more. But it all comes down to faith in Jesus, the way we live should reflect His love, but is not what is most important.
Interesting. I was raised Mennonite (as were my parents) and my home church is about as liberal as they come--politically and otherwise. And I don't believe homosexual behavior is a sin. So I guess that's even more proof of the differences across different congregations.
Anonymous
08/29/2012 19:39
Subject: Anyone former Amish or date/marry someone who was Amish?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can the amish get away with not educating their kids? Is school not a basic right?
Sounds like a dangerous cult from the middle ages that should be stopped
They do educate their children, just not the same number of years that most people do. The Supreme Court ruled compulsory education couldn't be imposed upon the Amish as it would violate their right to religious freedom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_v._Yoder . Read the opinion see it's limitations - like the religion had to have been established prior to 1950 to qualify for an exemption.
You also need to do more research about the Amish to understand they are hardly dangerous (they're pacificists and didn't even represent themselves before the Supreme Court). They also aren't from the middle ages - just pre-industrial revolution.
Are you honestly saying that that is not a form of child abuse?
Relgious freedom??? Right to stay simple.... you can be educated and simple, or is that not possible.
They are dangerous if they do that, the lives of members are closely monitored, and they can be cruel. Cutting beards and shunning etc
Education though wonderful, is a privilege, not a right. Nothing stops the kids from growing up and seing higher education, though yes, it would be harder jumping back in at an older age. I cannot see how that is child abuse. My guess is that most Amish parents spend a lot more quality time with their kids than most busy DC families do and are a closer knit family as a result. I'd take attention over education any day.
Yes, as with the beard cutting, this shows that Amish people are just that, people. There are good and bad as with any group of people. In general though I do believe the crime rate is far below other people groups.
Anonymous
08/29/2012 16:58
Subject: Anyone former Amish or date/marry someone who was Amish?
My cousin just married a Mennonite. The booze flowed freely at the reception.
Anonymous
08/29/2012 16:54
Subject: Anyone former Amish or date/marry someone who was Amish?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can the amish get away with not educating their kids? Is school not a basic right?
Sounds like a dangerous cult from the middle ages that should be stopped
They do educate their children, just not the same number of years that most people do. The Supreme Court ruled compulsory education couldn't be imposed upon the Amish as it would violate their right to religious freedom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_v._Yoder . Read the opinion see it's limitations - like the religion had to have been established prior to 1950 to qualify for an exemption.
You also need to do more research about the Amish to understand they are hardly dangerous (they're pacificists and didn't even represent themselves before the Supreme Court). They also aren't from the middle ages - just pre-industrial revolution.
Are you honestly saying that that is not a form of child abuse?
Relgious freedom??? Right to stay simple.... you can be educated and simple, or is that not possible.
They are dangerous if they do that, the lives of members are closely monitored, and they can be cruel. Cutting beards and shunning etc
Anonymous
08/29/2012 15:00
Subject: Anyone former Amish or date/marry someone who was Amish?
One of my crazier friends (former party girl, still likes to drink and go out) is now married to a Mennonite from the midwest. He's super sweet, cute, and is always her designated driver
Anonymous
08/29/2012 14:36
Subject: Re:Anyone former Amish or date/marry someone who was Amish?
Anonymous wrote:I'm still waiting to hear from someone who got it on with an Amish guy! Come on DCUM! I can't believe no one on this list hasn't gotten 'jiggy in the barn'.
I WISH I had gotten it on with law school Mennonite. Damn.
Anonymous
08/29/2012 14:35
Subject: Re:Anyone former Amish or date/marry someone who was Amish?
Anonymous wrote:I'm still waiting to hear from someone who got it on with an Amish guy! Come on DCUM! I can't believe no one on this list hasn't gotten 'jiggy in the barn'.
You need to stop watching "reality tv".
Anonymous
08/29/2012 14:32
Subject: Re:Anyone former Amish or date/marry someone who was Amish?
I'm still waiting to hear from someone who got it on with an Amish guy! Come on DCUM! I can't believe no one on this list hasn't gotten 'jiggy in the barn'.
Anonymous
08/29/2012 14:31
Subject: Anyone former Amish or date/marry someone who was Amish?
Anonymous wrote:How can the amish get away with not educating their kids? Is school not a basic right?
Sounds like a dangerous cult from the middle ages that should be stopped
They do educate their children, just not the same number of years that most people do. The Supreme Court ruled compulsory education couldn't be imposed upon the Amish as it would violate their right to religious freedom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_v._Yoder . Read the opinion see it's limitations - like the religion had to have been established prior to 1950 to qualify for an exemption.
You also need to do more research about the Amish to understand they are hardly dangerous (they're pacificists and didn't even represent themselves before the Supreme Court). They also aren't from the middle ages - just pre-industrial revolution.
Anonymous
08/29/2012 14:22
Subject: Anyone former Amish or date/marry someone who was Amish?
How can the amish get away with not educating their kids? Is school not a basic right?
Sounds like a dangerous cult from the middle ages that should be stopped
Sounds like a dangerous cult from the middle ages that should be stopped
Anonymous
08/29/2012 10:20
Subject: Anyone former Amish or date/marry someone who was Amish?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I dated a Mennonite, he was a FINE speciman of a man. Looked just like he crawed out of Austria. Tall, strong, blonde with piercing blue eyes.
Too bad, no sex.
Do they have a strict diet and marry only within their sect?
The guy I dated did not have a strict diet. He even drank.
Not sure if he married a Mennonite or not. I see him on FB, he looks like any other normal person.