Anonymous wrote:Obama. Ryan will be the nominee in 2016 for republicans. Agree with pp who said it is a setup for a 2 term starting in 2016.

Unless he's thoroughly trashed over the next 4 months. He'll have the youth edge over Hillary, but she's still got my vote.

Obama. Ryan will be the nominee in 2016 for republicans. Agree with pp who said it is a setup for a 2 term starting in 2016.

Anonymous wrote:Obama is in panic mode. Accusing Romney of cancer deaths and Biden saying black people will be slaves again. lol. That's panic from really bad internal polling.

What kind of drugs are they passing out over there, and how can I get some? You must be the only person who thinks Romney has Obama on the run.

Obama is in panic mode. Accusing Romney of cancer deaths and Biden saying black people will be slaves again. lol. That's panic from really bad internal polling.

Interesting. And there is a steep line up of Rs waiting for 2016. Question: Did Ryan sacrifice himself for 2016 by agreeing to join this ticket?

Ryan just hit the lottery....you know how much money he will make even as a losing VP pick?

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Anonymous wrote:Too close to call at this point. Obama has the advantage, but it is really going to come down to turnout in a few key states. I think Florida likely goes R, and it comes down to the ground game in Ohio.

Ohio is not voting for Romney and Ryan, not after the union-busting nonsense the Repubs have been pulling there for the past couple of years. They have an economy at all because of unions and domestic manufacturing of foreign cars, they're not stupid. Working class white people are democrats: Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania are NOT in play.

See Real Clear Politics today re: Ohio. You won't believe Rasmussen showing a tie, but the other recent poll showing Obama at +3 makes it pretty clear that Ohio, at least, is in play. Will be interesting to see if Ryan helps in Wisconsin. I'll concede PA is not likely to be in play, but Romney doesn't need it, and Michigan will be a stretch. As I acknowledged above, the board currently favors Obama, but it is hardly in the bag for him.

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Anonymous wrote:Too close to call at this point. Obama has the advantage, but it is really going to come down to turnout in a few key states. I think Florida likely goes R, and it comes down to the ground game in Ohio.

Ohio is not voting for Romney and Ryan, not after the union-busting nonsense the Repubs have been pulling there for the past couple of years. They have an economy at all because of unions and domestic manufacturing of foreign cars, they're not stupid. Working class white people are democrats: Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania are NOT in play.

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http://decoded.nationaljournal.com/2012/07/from-bad-to-worse-with-bluecol.php

Not sure working class are with Obama

Working class white people hate Obama! That is his least supportive demographic.

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Anonymous wrote:Obama. Romney just lost the independent appeal with a Ryan pick. Stupid. If you look at Romeny's record he's actually fairly liberal. Independents sould have been tempted. But abolish medicare? Anti gay, anti reproductve rights? No they just scared away swing voters and that is where the election will be decided.

My thought too.

One thing I've never understood about politics is the appeasing the base concept. Your hardcore Repubs or Dems aren't going to vote the other direction regardless of who you pick as a running mate. It really is that majority of moderates, independents, aka swing voters that make the difference.

Yes, my thought exactly.

If Republicans would give up on gays and abortion, they would have SO much more broad appeal. Hardcores are not going to go Dem. Independents would be more open to them. I really don't get it.

The strategy is not to appease the base, but rather to energize the base. If the base voters stay home on election day you will lose.

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Anonymous wrote:Too close to call at this point. Obama has the advantage, but it is really going to come down to turnout in a few key states. I think Florida likely goes R, and it comes down to the ground game in Ohio.

Ohio is not voting for Romney and Ryan, not after the union-busting nonsense the Repubs have been pulling there for the past couple of years. They have an economy at all because of unions and domestic manufacturing of foreign cars, they're not stupid. Working class white people are democrats: Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania are NOT in play.

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http://decoded.nationaljournal.com/2012/07/from-bad-to-worse-with-bluecol.php

Not sure working class are with Obama

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Anonymous wrote:Obama. And it's going to be a landslide. I believe in Nate Silver and the comprehensive algorithm he's developed that takes into account every poll, which way it leans, how it polls, how historically accurate its been, the economy, etc.

His model shows 330 electoral votes as the most likely outcome. You heard it hear first.

We, like you, heard it from him first. Not "hear."

You heard it here first if you hadn't read fivethirtyeight before my post

Let's give due credit to anon

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Anonymous wrote:Obama. And it's going to be a landslide. I believe in Nate Silver and the comprehensive algorithm he's developed that takes into account every poll, which way it leans, how it polls, how historically accurate its been, the economy, etc.

His model shows 330 electoral votes as the most likely outcome. You heard it hear first.

We, like you, heard it from him first. Not "hear."

You heard it here first if you hadn't read fivethirtyeight before my post

Obama has now become a given, now the question is how to get the wing nuts out of the HR

I think it will be like 1996 Clinton v Dole.

Anonymous wrote:Too close to call at this point. Obama has the advantage, but it is really going to come down to turnout in a few key states. I think Florida likely goes R, and it comes down to the ground game in Ohio.

Ohio is not voting for Romney and Ryan, not after the union-busting nonsense the Repubs have been pulling there for the past couple of years. They have an economy at all because of unions and domestic manufacturing of foreign cars, they're not stupid. Working class white people are democrats: Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania are NOT in play.

Anonymous wrote:Obama. And it's going to be a landslide. I believe in Nate Silver and the comprehensive algorithm he's developed that takes into account every poll, which way it leans, how it polls, how historically accurate its been, the economy, etc.

His model shows 330 electoral votes as the most likely outcome. You heard it hear first.

We, like you, heard it from him first. Not "hear."