Anonymous
Post 07/13/2012 10:01     Subject: Best things to do to prepare for unmedicated birth

Anonymous wrote:Figure out why you are so obsessed with experiencing pain in childbirth. Who are you listening to that is convincing you that is necessary or preferred? Why do you believe them when medical science has advanced since women had to endure pain and drop babies in the field then keep plowing? Who has convinced you that it is better for the baby to feel pain?


So because you couldn't hack it, you're criticizing someone else's choice?
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2012 10:01     Subject: Best things to do to prepare for unmedicated birth

OP,

The main thing I did was switch to a midwifery practice. This already put me in the mindset of no medication because none is immediately available. If I'd tried the birth at a hospital, I'm sure I would've caved.

It helped that my labors are usually pretty short and my natural birth was with my 4th child, so I was in labor less than 3 hours.

My natural birth was also a water birth. Being in the water did not take all of the pain away but it did help calm the contraction storm!
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2012 09:52     Subject: Re:Best things to do to prepare for unmedicated birth

Anonymous wrote:OP, before all else, book a class with Amy Bookwalter, from Rosebud Doula: http://rosebuddoula.net/. She is a gifted, experienced, highly trained doula and mother of nine, and she crams so much helpful information into her class, it's unbelievable. I went to her class for experienced parents, for my sixth baby, and learned so much from her. I thought that could not be possible, as I had read every single book out there, but it is true!

Next, hire your own doula. Amy has been my doula the last four times, but she can recommend others if she is booked.

Third, choose a caregiver who is enthusiastic about unmedicated birth.

Then read every good book out there. There are so many, from anything Ina May, to the more mainstream Sears guide and the Lamaze Guide to Childbirth, to all of the positive birth story collections (I appreciate Journey into Motherhood, because each of the dozens of stories ends with the specific things that helped the mother the most), and Hypnobabies and Birthing from Within for the more out there stuff, which i still love, and even Orgasmic Birth and Gentle Birth.

Stay strong and healthy. Swim a lot. Rest as much as you can. Have a great intimate life with your husband, right up to the end. Have many conversations about what you need from him.

For your calcium supplement, take calcium LACTATE. And load up on it at the very end. It is associated with painless labors. I've experienced them myself, so I am a believer!

I LOVE giving birth. I think heaven feels like giving birth. Women were created for this. It is part of our sexual health to have the privilege of doing it. It is part of my love life. Pictures of me in labor could be mistaken for erotic photos--that's how good I felt.

Love your pregnant body, love your husband, love the baby who is the result of your love for each other, and love every sensation as it comes and goes. Enjoy!


Calcium lactate considered a Category C drug during pregnancy, dunno why...

This is totally how I felt-- stay POSITIVE! birth is beautiful!-- during my first pregnancy, and I did Hypnobabies, which requires you to stay away from all negative messages surrounding childbirth, but I would say for all the "if you don't have something nice to say about birth, don't say it at all" types that I would have done better to be prepared to cope with pain than to expect pleasure and pure enjoyment. I would say that people who have births that are painless, or orgasmic, or totally lovely are-- worldwide-- very rare and very fortunate. Many of us do have to cope with a great deal of pain. I've never met or read anything by a midwife or doula who says that pain and extreme discomfort during labor are entirely avoidable for every woman, and unfortunately, staying mentally positive is not always enough to deal with that. This is why classes like Bradley that teach women how to cope w/ pain are so successful, and why doulas are so helpful. It's good to remember pain in labor is totally normal and it doesn't mean you've done something wrong, or failed to prepare properly, or that there is something wrong with you or the baby! And it's great to have someone experienced to help you through it. We can't all have orgasmic births, or painless births, or even unmedicated births, but none of these things is a reflection on you as a woman. Best luck, OP! I have already followed some of the advice on this thread for birth #2 and signed up for Rosebud Doula's birthing course, since Hypnobabies was very nice during pregnancy #1 but not for the birth I ended up having, which I experienced as very frightening because I was not "supposed" to be feeling this extreme pain.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2012 09:39     Subject: Best things to do to prepare for unmedicated birth

with anasthesia = without anasthesia
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2012 09:37     Subject: Re:Best things to do to prepare for unmedicated birth

Anonymous wrote:People,stop it with your horror stories. Just. Stop. I had a sunny side up delivery with a TON of back labor. Know what back labor tells you? To change your position, and to apply counter pressure. Yes, back labor does hurt, but you'll be okay. I This was another reason I was glad to be a little bit older when I had my baby. I think some younger women just haven't had much pain in their lives. Yes, it "hurts," but it truly is pain with a purpose. And usually your body feeling pain that you can't manage is one of two things: transition or the need to move around and otherwise make an adjustment. I had two happy hospital births but I will say the hospital environment takes you out of your ability to completely get comfortable - the need to be monitored, presence of other people and disruptions, and even the fact that they'll ask you not to eat (and sometimes not to drink!). All of this interferes with your body's ability to manage the situation and can get into your head. I never took any classes because I don't really like classes. I know that probably seems crazy, but I didn't, and I had a good birth. So my advice:

step one: find a care provider who will be committed to doing what he / she can to help you with your natural birth. they do exist, google these threads for names.
step two: read everything you can get your hands on. Ina May Gaskin's books are required reading - a bit hippied out but filled with information. I also LOVED Penny Simkin's the birth partner. It's for partners, but it really, really was one of the better prep books out there. I also read the birth book by Dr Sears (it was decent, not my fave, but informative) and Husband Coached Childbirth which was odd and patronizing but had some good info on stages (just ignore his weird bits about the position you're supposed to get into because I would have lost my mind in that position).
step three: see if a Bradley coach will let you take a brush up course instead of the long course (again I didn't take any courses but you may prefer to)
step four: consider a doula (I actually did not use one, but most friends who did use one say it was a good move).
step five, and this one is the most important: embrace your contractions and believe in your body. Don't fear birth. There is pain, but it does NOT have to be the nightmare that some folks say it is. Yes, labor involves enormous sensations, some of them are nearly overwhelming but you CAN do it. It is NOTHING like smashing your hand with a hammer. It makes me so angry to say that. smashing a hand with a hammer is pointless and damaging. Giving birth is beautiful.

It was literally the most amazing experience of my life.


People, stop it with your horror stories. Just. Stop.

Oh goody, a forum nazi who loves. to. punctuate. like. this. Get over yourself.

Yes, it "hurts," but it truly is pain with a purpose.

ALL pain "has a purpose". Your point? I would never have an appendix removed with anasthesia just because pain has a purpose. When society figures out a way to alleviate suffering, THAT'S called progress and enlightment.

Have an excruciatingly agonizing birth if that's what self-affirmates. But spare us the preaching about how it is the most quintessentially enlightened life-changing experience that any woman could ever hope for. If we're going to go that route, OK, I will preach about how amazingly wonderful I remember my epidural births to be. I was in no pain at all, had total peace of mind, remember with complete clarity everything that happened, and didn't need a "coach" to help get me through totally unnecessary pain.

Even more, I have never felt the need to start a threat about how great my epidurals were just to fish for affirmative feedback.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2012 08:44     Subject: Best things to do to prepare for unmedicated birth

^^^oh, and OP, watch positive birth videos, like Gentle Birth and The Business of Being Born (all of them) and Orgasmic Birth.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2012 08:42     Subject: Re:Best things to do to prepare for unmedicated birth

OP, before all else, book a class with Amy Bookwalter, from Rosebud Doula: http://rosebuddoula.net/. She is a gifted, experienced, highly trained doula and mother of nine, and she crams so much helpful information into her class, it's unbelievable. I went to her class for experienced parents, for my sixth baby, and learned so much from her. I thought that could not be possible, as I had read every single book out there, but it is true!

Next, hire your own doula. Amy has been my doula the last four times, but she can recommend others if she is booked.

Third, choose a caregiver who is enthusiastic about unmedicated birth.

Then read every good book out there. There are so many, from anything Ina May, to the more mainstream Sears guide and the Lamaze Guide to Childbirth, to all of the positive birth story collections (I appreciate Journey into Motherhood, because each of the dozens of stories ends with the specific things that helped the mother the most), and Hypnobabies and Birthing from Within for the more out there stuff, which i still love, and even Orgasmic Birth and Gentle Birth.

Stay strong and healthy. Swim a lot. Rest as much as you can. Have a great intimate life with your husband, right up to the end. Have many conversations about what you need from him.

For your calcium supplement, take calcium LACTATE. And load up on it at the very end. It is associated with painless labors. I've experienced them myself, so I am a believer!

I LOVE giving birth. I think heaven feels like giving birth. Women were created for this. It is part of our sexual health to have the privilege of doing it. It is part of my love life. Pictures of me in labor could be mistaken for erotic photos--that's how good I felt.

Love your pregnant body, love your husband, love the baby who is the result of your love for each other, and love every sensation as it comes and goes. Enjoy!
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2012 08:19     Subject: Re:Best things to do to prepare for unmedicated birth

Did Bradley method with DD, had Pitocin (was that or a section) but still powered through without an epi. It's totally doable.
Husband Coached Childbirth by Jay Bradley
Ina whoever's book

Biggest things for me: make sure attending person (ie midwife) AND DH are 100% on board. Have a written birth plan and bring copies with you to the hospital so that DH can plaster the walls with them.
Think about what relaxes you - would DH giving you a foot massage/back rub be relaxing or stressful? Music? Talking? Etc. Try some stuff. DH really, really needs to be on board because he can't just sit in the chair and watch TV. He needs to actively participate.
That said, DH was very involved in the Bradley classes, absorbed everything, etc. We felt totally prepared with the massage, music, etc. Then my water broke, I had to have pitocin, and could not bear to be touched (also could not speak, but was having full conversations in my head). DH rolled with his relegated role as water-giver, and hand-holder.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2012 02:25     Subject: Best things to do to prepare for unmedicated birth

Figure out why you are so obsessed with experiencing pain in childbirth. Who are you listening to that is convincing you that is necessary or preferred? Why do you believe them when medical science has advanced since women had to endure pain and drop babies in the field then keep plowing? Who has convinced you that it is better for the baby to feel pain?
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2012 01:36     Subject: Best things to do to prepare for unmedicated birth

I read all hose books PPs mentioned too. Very good suggestions. Arm yourself with info.

Remember above all that when you finally decide to ask for an epidural, you as almost done. Ask for a cervical check first. You'll probably find you are in transition.

Ignore all these back labor horror stories. It probably does hurt but staying Unmedicated is possible. A friend did it, and signed on to do it three more times.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2012 00:12     Subject: Re:Best things to do to prepare for unmedicated birth

PP again. Stay off the bed as much as you can, or at least off your back. Moving and changing positions always made things feel better, and move faster.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2012 00:10     Subject: Re:Best things to do to prepare for unmedicated birth

I hoped for a natural birth, and took Lamaze before my first. Do not waste your time, it is not(at least my class was not ) set up to encourage natural childbirth. What was most helpful to me was 1) letting DH (and my nurses) know that I really wanted to try to go without an epidural, and how I wanted him to coach me if I asked. 2) knowing that I was my best advocate. I said no to certain interventions (this got even better with #2 and #3. 3) I Loved my exercise ball. I sat on that thing almost my entire labor with #3. They monitored me right from that ball. I found I could sort of swivel my hips around to get through contractions. In each of my 3 labors I asked for an Epi. at some point. In hindsight, I was in transition each of those times. You can do it!! For me #2 and #3 were much easier, as I knew what to expect.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2012 23:51     Subject: Best things to do to prepare for unmedicated birth

I worked out a LOT before I got pregnant and then continued working out (less intense) while pregnant so I was used to that good kind of pain.

Also I have a super competitive personality so I was viewing it all as a challenge. I was determined to like, give birth, get high off the natural hormones pumping through, and jump up and make soup for everyone. That didn't happen. But I did give birth naturally and then blissed out proudly.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2012 23:42     Subject: Re:Best things to do to prepare for unmedicated birth

People, stop it with your horror stories. Just. Stop. I had a sunny side up delivery with a TON of back labor. Know what back labor tells you? To change your position, and to apply counter pressure. Yes, back labor does hurt, but you'll be okay. I This was another reason I was glad to be a little bit older when I had my baby. I think some younger women just haven't had much pain in their lives. Yes, it "hurts," but it truly is pain with a purpose. And usually your body feeling pain that you can't manage is one of two things: transition or the need to move around and otherwise make an adjustment. I had two happy hospital births but I will say the hospital environment takes you out of your ability to completely get comfortable - the need to be monitored, presence of other people and disruptions, and even the fact that they'll ask you not to eat (and sometimes not to drink!). All of this interferes with your body's ability to manage the situation and can get into your head. I never took any classes because I don't really like classes. I know that probably seems crazy, but I didn't, and I had a good birth. So my advice:

step one: find a care provider who will be committed to doing what he / she can to help you with your natural birth. they do exist, google these threads for names.
step two: read everything you can get your hands on. Ina May Gaskin's books are required reading - a bit hippied out but filled with information. I also LOVED Penny Simkin's the birth partner. It's for partners, but it really, really was one of the better prep books out there. I also read the birth book by Dr Sears (it was decent, not my fave, but informative) and Husband Coached Childbirth which was odd and patronizing but had some good info on stages (just ignore his weird bits about the position you're supposed to get into because I would have lost my mind in that position).
step three: see if a Bradley coach will let you take a brush up course instead of the long course (again I didn't take any courses but you may prefer to)
step four: consider a doula (I actually did not use one, but most friends who did use one say it was a good move).
step five, and this one is the most important: embrace your contractions and believe in your body. Don't fear birth. There is pain, but it does NOT have to be the nightmare that some folks say it is. Yes, labor involves enormous sensations, some of them are nearly overwhelming but you CAN do it. It is NOTHING like smashing your hand with a hammer. It makes me so angry to say that. smashing a hand with a hammer is pointless and damaging. Giving birth is beautiful.

It was literally the most amazing experience of my life.

Anonymous
Post 07/12/2012 22:38     Subject: Re:Best things to do to prepare for unmedicated birth

Had both - unmedicated not planned. Baby too fast. I actually have no idea how one would possibly prepare oneself for that amount of pain. My monitoring after was far longer for that birth bc blood pressure up from stress.