Rape may be an act of violence, but it is a sex act. To pretend otherwise is absurd. And it can result in procreation - something OP included in her core definition of what sex is.

Anonymous wrote:Op, two questions - and please give my a direct answer - that is only fair since you started and "ask anything" post.

Why should a non-catholic employee of a catholic affiliated employer (this hospital) be subject to catholic restriction on birth control.

You state "When sex is inextricably linked to the possibility of procreation, the full power of a woman is present" How do you explain the mass rapes of native people and slaves by men (some of whom were devout catholic. Where was the mutual respect, where was the power that these women weilded. Did the fact they created "life" improve their lot in anyway.

First question: the employee is free to use birth control at will.

Second question: sex is not rape, and rape is not sex. I am horrified to think any sane person would equate the two. Rape is violence.

Catholics are just as capable of evil as anyone else.

And any new life that results from rape is innocent of the crime committed by the father. The mother and the child are both victims of a great evil.

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Anonymous wrote:Employers should be free to determine which benefits they offer. It frustrates me to no end that my husband's health insurance does not cover CPMs, but that is their choice.

And employees can follow their own conscience regarding contraception. They just need to pay for it themselves.

And. similarly, if an insurance plan didn't cover healthcare for childbirth or for more than two children, that would be fine with you, too? If adopted children weren't covered?

And, similarly, they don't pay for anything infertility-related. So, if that happens to be your medical problem, even though you've been paying into your company health insurance plan, you're up a creek. Denied. They're basically like, "Go spend your own $$. It's your dumb luck to only have okne medical problem and that's one we don't cover."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Employers should be free to determine which benefits they offer. It frustrates me to no end that my husband's health insurance does not cover CPMs, but that is their choice.

And employees can follow their own conscience regarding contraception. They just need to pay for it themselves.

And. similarly, if an insurance plan didn't cover healthcare for childbirth or for more than two children, that would be fine with you, too? If adopted children weren't covered?

Or if, instead of a family rate, insurance companies charged a la carte? Insured + Spouse + Kid + Kid + Kid, etc.? Cause while you don't want to subsidize my birth control, I don't want to subsidize your "large" family, when I have just 2 kids (because I use birth control, by the way - the symmetry is appealing).

I assume CPM = certified professional midwife.

Anonymous wrote:Employers should be free to determine which benefits they offer. It frustrates me to no end that my husband's health insurance does not cover CPMs, but that is their choice.

And employees can follow their own conscience regarding contraception. They just need to pay for it themselves.

And. similarly, if an insurance plan didn't cover healthcare for childbirth or for more than two children, that would be fine with you, too? If adopted children weren't covered?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

We have free will. We can choose to align our will with the natural order of creation, or to step outside of the natural order. When we choose to go against natural law, there are negative consequences that follow. When we choose to follow natural law, and only then, we can have true joy and peace.

Do you consider taking ibuprofen for a fever "stepping outside the natural order?" Do you think taking folic acid while pregnant "going against natural law?"

And another question - are you Crazy 9 Baby Lady?

I hope not. I like her.

Me too. I don't think it's her. She doesn't talk in circles like this and actually answers questions posed to her, unlike this person who said ask me anything, but really isn't answering anything other than stating her opinion on larger issues.

I think it is her, I recognize the natural law, sex for procreation is beautiful blather.

Anonymous wrote:What is happening to the nuns, PP?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2012-06-11/nuns-catholic-pope-vatican/55555772/1

Anonymous wrote:What's a CPM? (?)

I was wondering too...

What is happening to the nuns, PP?

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Anonymous wrote:

We have free will. We can choose to align our will with the natural order of creation, or to step outside of the natural order. When we choose to go against natural law, there are negative consequences that follow. When we choose to follow natural law, and only then, we can have true joy and peace.

Do you consider taking ibuprofen for a fever "stepping outside the natural order?" Do you think taking folic acid while pregnant "going against natural law?"

And another question - are you Crazy 9 Baby Lady?

I hope not. I like her.

Me too. I don't think it's her. She doesn't talk in circles like this and actually answers questions posed to her, unlike this person who said ask me anything, but really isn't answering anything other than stating her opinion on larger issues.

PP here. I truly respect people who live according to the belief system they embrace. I really do. But when you push it on others, I lose respect for you. I turned to Christianity by following a young man who never talked about his faith unless asked. I mean, you knew he went to church and he would discuss Christ almost like a family member, but would never discuss what you should or should not do. He made regular mission trips to South America to build infrastructure and to serve people, humankind. I loved how he lived his life and his faith was very attractive to me.

POsters like this have the opposite effect, and make me want to run and hide from religion.

I have one more question, OP. How do you feel about what's happening to the nuns?

Op, two questions - and please give my a direct answer - that is only fair since you started and "ask anything" post.

Why should a non-catholic employee of a catholic affiliated employer (this hospital) be subject to catholic restriction on birth control.

You state "When sex is inextricably linked to the possibility of procreation, the full power of a woman is present" How do you explain the mass rapes of native people and slaves by men (some of whom were devout catholic. Where was the mutual respect, where was the power that these women weilded. Did the fact they created "life" improve their lot in anyway.

Anonymous wrote:

We have free will. We can choose to align our will with the natural order of creation, or to step outside of the natural order. When we choose to go against natural law, there are negative consequences that follow. When we choose to follow natural law, and only then, we can have true joy and peace.

Do you consider taking ibuprofen for a fever "stepping outside the natural order?" Do you think taking folic acid while pregnant "going against natural law?"

And another question - are you Crazy 9 Baby Lady?

I hope not. I like her.

1. I want to have sex but don't want to have a baby. HOW exactly am I "harming" myself? Do tell.
2. So lemme see if I have this right. Sex with contraception allows a man to use a woman (it's not a mutual decision ever) but sex without contraception does not? So it's impossible for a man to use a woman for, you know, procreation? They only use for sex?
3. So a man can't use a woman for empty sex or pleasure, but he can still use her for procreation, right?
4. How about rape? I mean, if it's killing a baby, it's killing a baby, right? So raped women should carry the rapists baby, right?
5. What if a 10 year old girl is raped? Assuming she's otherwise healthy, can she have the abortion or no? If yes, how do you justify abortion for her and not others? If no, is that what god wants for us? Or the price of free will? What if it is YOUR 10 year old? (BTW, if your answer is no abortion for any of these, please surrender your children).
6. Should employer financed health insurances have the ability to deny coverage for ANYTHING? Forget coverage of alternative therapies and let's talk about mainstream medicine, which is exactly contraception is considered. Say my employer wants to stop covering other types of alternative medicine, say heart attacks. Or wants to eliminate cancer coverage. Or decides to tell women they are no longer covered for one OB / GYN visit per year. Ooooh. Federal Government stepped in there and says you have to cover those things. You okay with that? Or is that the govt. being evil? If it is okay with you, do you think health insurance should get to stop covering cancer treatments?

Separate question: is this you: amiraabuzeid.com ? If so, please, give it a rest.

Please, lady, stop trying to "protect" me from myself. I'm a grownup who can make my own choices. I'm very glad you are happy living sans contraception. But allow me to make my own decisions. Just so you know, my husband and I also practice natural family planning. You and I probably agree on many things, ironically enough. However, I draw the line at believing my decisions are right for others, and that people are "harming" themselves by preventing pregnancy. WTF.