Anonymous
Post 05/15/2012 10:24     Subject: Re:How bad is Edison High in Alexandria?

Anonymous wrote:Maybe these charts will be useful:

http://www.fcps.edu/cco/pr/apib/2011/table10ibdiploma.pdf

http://commweb.fcps.edu/schoolprofile/profile.cfm?profile_id=120 (look for the IB results under the "Test Results" tab)

Overall, the picture that emerges is that IB participation at Edison is increasing, and the students seem to do about as well on the IB tests there as at other FCPS schools with IB programs. However, in comparson with some other county schools, such as Marshall and Robinson, the percentage of Edison students who obtain the full IB diploma is low.


There's a difference between trying and achieving. You don't get points for trying.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2012 10:21     Subject: Re:How bad is Edison High in Alexandria?

Maybe these charts will be useful:

http://www.fcps.edu/cco/pr/apib/2011/table10ibdiploma.pdf

http://commweb.fcps.edu/schoolprofile/profile.cfm?profile_id=120 (look for the IB results under the "Test Results" tab)

Overall, the picture that emerges is that IB participation at Edison is increasing, and the students seem to do about as well on the IB tests there as at other FCPS schools with IB programs. However, in comparson with some other county schools, such as Marshall and Robinson, the percentage of Edison students who obtain the full IB diploma is low.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2012 10:02     Subject: How bad is Edison High in Alexandria?

Hmmm. Many families who are relatively new arrivals to this country expect their children to work very hard and raise their standard of living. I'm OK with my DC going to school with kids from families with a work ethic, who do not feel entitled to privilege. Sure, that's not everybody at Edison, but I'm betting there is a significant number. Since I don't know, I really would like to hear more from families with children in the IB program there.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2012 09:04     Subject: How bad is Edison High in Alexandria?

Anonymous wrote:
OP here. From what I've read over the past few days, I actually think I would be comfortable with Edison. We just moved to the area from out of state less than a year ago. We probably bought a house a bit prematurely. We bought the house knowing that the schools were not considered top notch but bought on the Fairfax County side of Alexandria knowing that our kids could one day attend TJ if we opted to go the public school route. I spent quite a bit of time researching the private schools in the lower grades but had dismissed the public schools. We bought the house planning to send our kids to Browne, Burgandy Farms, Alexandria Day or SSSA.

We can easily afford to send our kids to private school. DH is the one who changed his mind and now feels strongly about sending our kids to public school. He wants our kids to attend school with a diverse pool of students.


You do realize that FCPS has a standard curricula, right? That what's taught in one school is taught in another? Test scores are more a reflection of the socioeconomic status of the student population and not the quality of instruction, right?

Just where do you live and who do you socialize with who thinks about moving away because of the schools? We moved to the Franconia area in 1998 and only moved because we upgraded our housing. We now live in one of the more expensive neighborhoods in Franconia (I recognize the oxymoron) and don't know a single person who considered moving away because of the school - not a single person in 14 years! The kids in our neighborhood all attended public school and a good number of them have gone on to excellent universities - Stanford, Vanderbilt, UVA, etc. And, some of them went to trade school at Edison. The electrician we use went through the vocational program and owns his company with 30 employees. By his account and by appearances, he's doing fabulously.

You really need to examine your academic biases and your expectations for your kids. You expect your kids "to go to at least a UVA" and your "kids could one day attend TJ if we opted to go the public school route"? Your expectations are way out of line. You should expect your children to be well educated and successful but there are many ways to accomplish that. Not every child is a good fit for UVA or TJ - in fact, TJ is as hard to get into as the Ivy League schools. To think that it's an option for you if you go the public school route is a reflection of hubris, not reality. Going to public school isn't a sentence to academic purgatory and mediocrity in life.



Given those areas, yes, I can believe that. But having grown up in this area, I also know that many of the homeowners there have been there for years, that the locale is mostly made up of lower middle class families non-professional families (Rose Hill) who would not consider moving for schools because they aren't as vested in them in the way a parent or family who is expecting their child to go to college and an ivy league or very well known college is.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2012 08:28     Subject: How bad is Edison High in Alexandria?

Anonymous wrote:
OP here. From what I've read over the past few days, I actually think I would be comfortable with Edison. We just moved to the area from out of state less than a year ago. We probably bought a house a bit prematurely. We bought the house knowing that the schools were not considered top notch but bought on the Fairfax County side of Alexandria knowing that our kids could one day attend TJ if we opted to go the public school route. I spent quite a bit of time researching the private schools in the lower grades but had dismissed the public schools. We bought the house planning to send our kids to Browne, Burgandy Farms, Alexandria Day or SSSA.

We can easily afford to send our kids to private school. DH is the one who changed his mind and now feels strongly about sending our kids to public school. He wants our kids to attend school with a diverse pool of students.


You do realize that FCPS has a standard curricula, right? That what's taught in one school is taught in another? Test scores are more a reflection of the socioeconomic status of the student population and not the quality of instruction, right?

Just where do you live and who do you socialize with who thinks about moving away because of the schools? We moved to the Franconia area in 1998 and only moved because we upgraded our housing. We now live in one of the more expensive neighborhoods in Franconia (I recognize the oxymoron) and don't know a single person who considered moving away because of the school - not a single person in 14 years! The kids in our neighborhood all attended public school and a good number of them have gone on to excellent universities - Stanford, Vanderbilt, UVA, etc. And, some of them went to trade school at Edison. The electrician we use went through the vocational program and owns his company with 30 employees. By his account and by appearances, he's doing fabulously.

You really need to examine your academic biases and your expectations for your kids. You expect your kids "to go to at least a UVA" and your "kids could one day attend TJ if we opted to go the public school route"? Your expectations are way out of line. You should expect your children to be well educated and successful but there are many ways to accomplish that. Not every child is a good fit for UVA or TJ - in fact, TJ is as hard to get into as the Ivy League schools. To think that it's an option for you if you go the public school route is a reflection of hubris, not reality. Going to public school isn't a sentence to academic purgatory and mediocrity in life.



We are new to the area and our kids are young. The people we know who live in Alexandria have very young children (less than age 3). They are all concerned about the public schools. I think it is a known fact that Alexandria public schools are not great with the exception of a few (Clermont, Stratford Landing, WW). I find it difficult to believe that you never met a family who moved to upgrade school district. We've lived here for only a few months and already met about 5 families who are moving this summer.

I do not need to be told what academic expectations I should have for my children. DH and I were academically successful and would expect our kids to be the same.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2012 07:46     Subject: How bad is Edison High in Alexandria?

OP here. From what I've read over the past few days, I actually think I would be comfortable with Edison. We just moved to the area from out of state less than a year ago. We probably bought a house a bit prematurely. We bought the house knowing that the schools were not considered top notch but bought on the Fairfax County side of Alexandria knowing that our kids could one day attend TJ if we opted to go the public school route. I spent quite a bit of time researching the private schools in the lower grades but had dismissed the public schools. We bought the house planning to send our kids to Browne, Burgandy Farms, Alexandria Day or SSSA.

We can easily afford to send our kids to private school. DH is the one who changed his mind and now feels strongly about sending our kids to public school. He wants our kids to attend school with a diverse pool of students.


You do realize that FCPS has a standard curricula, right? That what's taught in one school is taught in another? Test scores are more a reflection of the socioeconomic status of the student population and not the quality of instruction, right?

Just where do you live and who do you socialize with who thinks about moving away because of the schools? We moved to the Franconia area in 1998 and only moved because we upgraded our housing. We now live in one of the more expensive neighborhoods in Franconia (I recognize the oxymoron) and don't know a single person who considered moving away because of the school - not a single person in 14 years! The kids in our neighborhood all attended public school and a good number of them have gone on to excellent universities - Stanford, Vanderbilt, UVA, etc. And, some of them went to trade school at Edison. The electrician we use went through the vocational program and owns his company with 30 employees. By his account and by appearances, he's doing fabulously.

You really need to examine your academic biases and your expectations for your kids. You expect your kids "to go to at least a UVA" and your "kids could one day attend TJ if we opted to go the public school route"? Your expectations are way out of line. You should expect your children to be well educated and successful but there are many ways to accomplish that. Not every child is a good fit for UVA or TJ - in fact, TJ is as hard to get into as the Ivy League schools. To think that it's an option for you if you go the public school route is a reflection of hubris, not reality. Going to public school isn't a sentence to academic purgatory and mediocrity in life.

Anonymous
Post 05/14/2012 22:52     Subject: How bad is Edison High in Alexandria?

Anonymous wrote:OP, what schools do you think you'd be comfortable with?

Edison, I think, has enough good neighborhoods where you -- and your kids -- will thrive. IMO, it's more about the immediate surroundings with Edison and the "lesser" FCPS schools. we're not talking Freedom-Woodbridge or Gar-Field here.


OP here. From what I've read over the past few days, I actually think I would be comfortable with Edison. We just moved to the area from out of state less than a year ago. We probably bought a house a bit prematurely. We bought the house knowing that the schools were not considered top notch but bought on the Fairfax County side of Alexandria knowing that our kids could one day attend TJ if we opted to go the public school route. I spent quite a bit of time researching the private schools in the lower grades but had dismissed the public schools. We bought the house planning to send our kids to Browne, Burgandy Farms, Alexandria Day or SSSA.

We can easily afford to send our kids to private school. DH is the one who changed his mind and now feels strongly about sending our kids to public school. He wants our kids to attend school with a diverse pool of students.
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2012 22:19     Subject: How bad is Edison High in Alexandria?

OP, what schools do you think you'd be comfortable with?

Edison, I think, has enough good neighborhoods where you -- and your kids -- will thrive. IMO, it's more about the immediate surroundings with Edison and the "lesser" FCPS schools. we're not talking Freedom-Woodbridge or Gar-Field here.
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2012 20:45     Subject: How bad is Edison High in Alexandria?

So, back to the original question. Does anyone have any recent info about college placement for Edison's IB students?

What are the classes like? Invigorating discussions or read the chapter? How are the math teachers? Any kids do interesting IB project work? How do they score on the IB exams?
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2012 15:43     Subject: How bad is Edison High in Alexandria?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cornell is considered an Ivy? I had no idea.


http://collegeapps.about.com/od/choosingacollege/tp/ivy-league-schools.htm




Acceptance rates keep dropping every year. http://money.cnn.com/2012/03/30/pf/college/acceptance_rates_ivy_league/index.htm


Anonymous
Post 05/14/2012 15:34     Subject: Re:How bad is Edison High in Alexandria?

My son attends UVA and it is indeed one of the top public universities, but I would never say it's comparable to an Ivy in selectivity or prestige except in the minds of some of us here in Virginia. As PP noted, it accepts roughly one-third of applicants from VA - how can you compare that to the Ivys, especially the top tier (Harvard, Priceton, Yale), which accept 6-7 percent of applicants from around the country and around the wotld?,
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2012 15:25     Subject: How bad is Edison High in Alexandria?

Anonymous wrote:It has been a university for hundreds of years and was founded by Thomas Jefferson. It is a place most cultured, educated people have at least heard mentioned once or twice. Maybe you are from another country.

I certainly wouldn't consider Cornell equal to UVA.

Regardless, a school like Edison with more ESOL students does have an advantage for your typical upper middle class kids--they have a lot less competition at the top of the class and for extracurricular activites. Also, for in-state colleges, admissions people have an idea of how many kids they want to accept from each school. So a school like Edison could give your dc a competitive advantage over not standing out at all somewhere like Langley.


UVA has an acceptance rate of 32.6% while Cornell has an acceptance rate of 18.4%. UVA will attract mostly students from the state of Virginia while Cornell will have applicants from all over the country and also internationally.
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2012 15:21     Subject: How bad is Edison High in Alexandria?

Anonymous wrote:Cornell is considered an Ivy? I had no idea.


I would think any educated person would know Cornell is an Ivy. Not every educated person from out of state will know of UVA. Sorry.
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2012 14:53     Subject: How bad is Edison High in Alexandria?

Anonymous wrote:Cornell is considered an Ivy? I had no idea.


http://collegeapps.about.com/od/choosingacollege/tp/ivy-league-schools.htm

Anonymous
Post 05/14/2012 14:48     Subject: How bad is Edison High in Alexandria?

Cornell is considered an Ivy? I had no idea.