Anonymous wrote:

So, if you realize the education your 4 children received was crap, why, with all of your intelligence (not spelling ability) did you continue to send them to such substandard schools? I am an elementary teacher who went to a good university and received top grades and went on to an equally good school to get my Master's degree. We are quite limited by the curriculum and the pace of it. I'd love to delve deeper into many different topics that my students are interested in but cannot in most cases due to time. The pacing guides are quite ridiculous and leave me little time for much else. I also happen to teach the lowest ability learners so they need more repetition to learn most concepts. The higher ability classes are the ones with more time. Yes, there are problems in education but talk to most teachers and you will realize that they are all highly educated. I am a few classes away from my second Master's degree and many of my colleagues already have their second. In many cases, it isn't the teachers that are the problem. YOU are your child's first and most important teacher. Remember that and instead of complaining about how crappy their teachers are, work with them yourself. I taught my DS to read before he started school. he wouldn't learned to read in school but I knew I could help him.

With all due respect. Let's call a spade a spade with regards the general quality and depth of education of our public school teachers compared to other professions? What planet dost thou reside? We do respect teachers and what they are trying to do and it's quite alright to humor yourself. If many of you do not know basic and fundamental math and science, let alone adequately teach these subjects to primary aged students, how on earth can you claim being highly educated?

Oh great, teacher-bashing. Sigh.

So, if you realize the education your 4 children received was crap, why, with all of your intelligence (not spelling ability) did you continue to send them to such substandard schools? I am an elementary teacher who went to a good university and received top grades and went on to an equally good school to get my Master's degree. We are quite limited by the curriculum and the pace of it. I'd love to delve deeper into many different topics that my students are interested in but cannot in most cases due to time. The pacing guides are quite ridiculous and leave me little time for much else. I also happen to teach the lowest ability learners so they need more repetition to learn most concepts. The higher ability classes are the ones with more time. Yes, there are problems in education but talk to most teachers and you will realize that they are all highly educated. I am a few classes away from my second Master's degree and many of my colleagues already have their second. In many cases, it isn't the teachers that are the problem. YOU are your child's first and most important teacher. Remember that and instead of complaining about how crappy their teachers are, work with them yourself. I taught my DS to read before he started school. he wouldn't learned to read in school but I knew I could help him.

With all due respect. Let's call a spade a spade with regards the general quality and depth of education of our public school teachers compared to other professions? What planet dost thou reside? We do respect teachers and what they are trying to do and it's quite alright to humor yourself. If many of you do not know basic and fundamental math and science, let alone adequately teach these subjects to primary aged students, how on earth can you claim being highly educated?

Why are parents who want pathways posting in this thread? It just shows how pushy you are.

Like Moses, perhaps they wish to escort you across the seas of mediocrity.

Anonymous wrote:

seriously, PP?

Show me your source, and I'll believe you.

I would love to post this comment for all of my teacher friends to view, as they would clearly get a good laugh at a fool like you.

Thanks for representing the 1% of parents who are truly idiots.

Even most idiots recognise that American public school education does not attract the best of the intellectual or academic talent into public school teaching. And most idiots recognise a significant problem with the American public school system are the teachers (or lack thereof) -- simply going through the motions from a template. And most idiots know it is the quality of the students that makes the teachers or the school in the American public education system as many of these students would be stellar if they simply stayed at home and used those amply resources.

What do these facts make you? Please share these thoughts with your colleagues. I'm sure many of them will acknowledge this. You are why the "entitled" teaching dead wood should be overhauled.

Unfortunately, most capable middle school students have more expertise in mathematics and science as any of the K-5 MCPS teachers I have encountered with 4 childrens (4 schools) And you of all persons ( a dinasour) wonder why the public school systems in America are circling the drain? Fifteen to 30 years from now it wouldn't surprise me if your system largely goes the way of the US postal service, print newspapers and network TV.

...the 1 % of parents that are idiots to the annointed saviour of American public education

So, if you realize the education your 4 children received was crap, why, with all of your intelligence (not spelling ability) did you continue to send them to such substandard schools? I am an elementary teacher who went to a good university and received top grades and went on to an equally good school to get my Master's degree. We are quite limited by the curriculum and the pace of it. I'd love to delve deeper into many different topics that my students are interested in but cannot in most cases due to time. The pacing guides are quite ridiculous and leave me little time for much else. I also happen to teach the lowest ability learners so they need more repetition to learn most concepts. The higher ability classes are the ones with more time. Yes, there are problems in education but talk to most teachers and you will realize that they are all highly educated. I am a few classes away from my second Master's degree and many of my colleagues already have their second. In many cases, it isn't the teachers that are the problem. YOU are your child's first and most important teacher. Remember that and instead of complaining about how crappy their teachers are, work with them yourself. I taught my DS to read before he started school. he wouldn't learned to read in school but I knew I could help him.

Why are parents who want pathways posting in this thread? It just shows how pushy you are.

seriously, PP?

Show me your source, and I'll believe you.

I would love to post this comment for all of my teacher friends to view, as they would clearly get a good laugh at a fool like you.

Thanks for representing the 1% of parents who are truly idiots.

Even most idiots recognise that American public school education does not attract the best of the intellectual or academic talent into public school teaching. And most idiots recognise a significant problem with the American public school system are the teachers (or lack thereof) -- simply going through the motions from a template. And most idiots know it is the quality of the students that makes the teachers or the school in the American public education system as many of these students would be stellar if they simply stayed at home and used those amply resources.

What do these facts make you? Please share these thoughts with your colleagues. I'm sure many of them will acknowledge this. You are why the "entitled" teaching dead wood should be overhauled.

Unfortunately, most capable middle school students have more expertise in mathematics and science as any of the K-5 MCPS teachers I have encountered with 4 childrens (4 schools) And you of all persons ( a dinasour) wonder why the public school systems in America are circling the drain? Fifteen to 30 years from now it wouldn't surprise me if your system largely goes the way of the US postal service, print newspapers and network TV.

...the 1 % of parents that are idiots to the annointed saviour of American public education

Anonymous wrote:

Let's skip the labels. How should a K or first grade teacher (principal or Mr Starr) handle children who have mastered multiplication during the year of math instruction?

Ninety-nine percent of K and 1st grade teachers in MCPS are clueless. There is no instructional plan for these children. A certification in education doesn't guarantee the teachers themselves have mastered multiplication. That's the fundamental problem. NO curriculum, even curriculum 2.0, will fix this!

seriously, PP?

Show me your source, and I'll believe you.

I would love to post this comment for all of my teacher friends to view, as they would clearly get a good laugh at a fool like you.

Thanks for representing the 1% of parents who are truly idiots.

I am an employee who sends both kids to private school (one who's advanced, the other who's delayed). I may decide to send them to public high once we reach that step. For now, however, I am delighted that the school does not teach to any test.

MCPS parents have no idea what they want and they are woefully uninformed about education, which leads to little microcosms of parents complaining about how underserved they are.

MCPS has a very low bar for so called 'gifted' kids but has several groups of loud parents who want their kids serviced by gifted program. But wait, they don't care about the label, no, really, they don't. These so called gifted students belong in some classrooms that allow for "pathways for acceleration" without really addressing the fact that if 40% of MCPS students test as gifted, then apparently the measure for giftedness is flat out wrong and maybe the parents screaming for "pathways for acceleration" might better turn their attention to improving the curriculum for all.

You people really lack a coherent point of view.

Does this mean if your child has already mastered the material in a subject at the start of the school year s/he should be allowed to move on to the next level if desired and capable? Yes or No?

MCPS parents have no idea what they want and they are woefully uninformed about education, which leads to little microcosms of parents complaining about how underserved they are.

MCPS has a very low bar for so called 'gifted' kids but has several groups of loud parents who want their kids serviced by gifted program. But wait, they don't care about the label, no, really, they don't. These so called gifted students belong in some classrooms that allow for "pathways for acceleration" without really addressing the fact that if 40% of MCPS students test as gifted, then apparently the measure for giftedness is flat out wrong and maybe the parents screaming for "pathways for acceleration" might better turn their attention to improving the curriculum for all.

You people really lack a coherent point of view.

Re:I want a school without parents who want "pathways for advanced students"

Try homeschool. You would be in charge of not permitting your child to advance even if the child has mastered the material for the appointed year. Just repeat it over again and again. Some liken your approach to "drill and kill". I bet you've heard of this?

Try dcps where its basically subsidized daycare and food with little emphasis on education.

That's where mcps is headed with foolish policy.

Some think MCPS has already arrived at this point.

Try dcps where its basically subsidized daycare and food with little emphasis on education.

That's where mcps is headed with foolish policy.

Gifted athletes play on the same team or have the same gym class with non gifted athletes.

Brilliant. There are gifted and non-gifted students on the sama team ... as in school (Go to any MCPS school or team and you will find the full spectrum of ability). What's your point? There are 4 levels of ability in the 9 to 12 year-old swim group based on speed ... but still on the same swim team. The slower 9 to 12 year -old swimmers are not swimming with the fastest groups in training yet they represent the same team at least in my neighborhood. Same concept on swim teams all over Potomac Valley and the Union.

Have you ever played a sport in your life or do you get your info vicariously through videos and others?

Try dcps where its basically subsidized daycare and food with little emphasis on education.