Anonymous
Post 03/13/2012 14:21     Subject: Why does the Obama administration object to voter id laws?

ID requirement for alcohol purchases is a fairly transparent attempt to discourage young poors from alcoholism.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2012 13:04     Subject: Why does the Obama administration object to voter id laws?

I D requirment for gun purchases are fairly transperant attempts to discourage gun rights to poor people.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2012 13:00     Subject: Why does the Obama administration object to voter id laws?

drivers liscense laws are fairly transperent attempts to discourage driving among the poor.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2012 12:57     Subject: Why does the Obama administration object to voter id laws?

If voter ID laws were passed with programs like what 11:01 said, I might be more comfortable with it. But usually voter ID laws are fairly transparent attempts to reduce voter turnout among the poors.

Otherwise, requiring people to pay for acceptable ID is a poll tax, and that's un-Constitutional.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2012 12:27     Subject: Why does the Obama administration object to voter id laws?

remember Obama's Aunt Zeituni? She got disability and public housing as an illegal immigrant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHoAuk76fT8

He didn't come up with this-she is just an example of the holes in our system.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2012 11:43     Subject: Why does the Obama administration object to voter id laws?

Breitbart's media lives on and picks up an expose on the ease with which anyone could potentially vote in someone elses name, even a dead persons!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/13/OKeefe%20Video%20Exposes%20Voter%20Fraud-Friendly%20Policies%20in%20Vermont
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2012 11:01     Subject: Why does the Obama administration object to voter id laws?

We should require I.D. and set up a free state process to get everyone I.D. Send I.D. buses into poor neighborhoods. Find a way to save votes for people who don't have I.D. and get those votes counted in as soon as the I.D. process can be completed. Have people on-site at the polls to get the process going. Do what you have to do to get the job done.

The idea that you can vote without proving who you are is insane. And the idea that you can prove who you are without a picture is equally insane.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2012 10:40     Subject: Re:Why does the Obama administration object to voter id laws?

Coming Soon: National ID Cards?
Recently passed Real ID Act undermines civil rights, critics charge.
By Erik Larkin, PCWorld May 31, 2005 2:00 pm

WASHINGTON -- Driver's licenses will become national ID cards--and Americans will be at greater risk of identity theft--under a new federal law that passed without significant congressional debate, critics charge.

The Real ID Act will require that states verify every license applicant's identity and residency status, and that they store addresses, names, and driving records in a database that every other state can access. It also mandates anticounterfeiting features for the licenses and a "common machine readable technology." In three years, licenses that don't meet the standards won't be accepted as identification for boarding an airplane, opening a bank account, or satisfying any other federally regulated use..............................
...Machine Readable = RFID?
The requirement that licenses incorporate a "machine-readable technology" is similarly vague. Already, 47 states--all but Alaska, Oklahoma, and Wyoming--have a bar code or a magnetic stripe. Either one would satisfy the law's mandate, as would radio frequency ID (RFID), a broadcast technology planned for upcoming electronic U.S. passports.

The broad language of the new law "really allows for many possibilities," says Neville Pattinson, director of technology and government affairs at the U.S. headquarters in Austin, Texas, of the European company Axalto, which makes smart cards. A small computer chip in each card stores information and may include features such as encryption. Axalto makes both contactless chips, which use RFID, and contact chips, which must be touched to be read. The company is bidding to supply the contactless chips for the new passports.


http://www.pcworld.com/article/121077/coming_soon_national_id_cards.html
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2012 10:37     Subject: Re:Why does the Obama administration object to voter id laws?

TSA Arrest Activist for Not Showing ID

CDC
November 16, 2009
[efoods]A Washington State medical marijuana activist was arrested at the Albuquerque airport today after refusing to show ID to TSA screeners. Activist Phil Mocek is one of many Americans who believe Americans have a right to travel freely between the states without showing their papers to the federal government.


http://www.infowars.com/tsa-arrest-activist-for-not-showing-id/

After reading a NY Times story on Kiryas Joel, the Orange County town that's home base for the Ultra-Orthodox Satmar Hasidic Jews, a few non-Orthodox friends from Manhattan decided to pay the town a visit. Earlier this month they took a train to the nearest station and hiked five miles to the town, where they started snapping photos of some of the sights and attractions—like the air-conditioned bus stop! But it seems the locals don't take to kindly to Goy outsiders, and soon enough a private security force pulled up demanding identification. On Reddit, John Zwinck, a software engineer who lives in midtown Manhattan, describes how the situation quickly escalated:
After a few minutes, a black Suburban rolls up in front of us. Two guys get out. One of them never speaks, but has a shirt that says Public Safety. The other is wearing traditional orthodox clothes: black pants, white shirt, black vest, and a yarmulke. We later learn his name is Moses. He immediately demands identification from all of us. I ask him why, and he says that he got a call for suspicious activity. I tell him we are just visiting on foot, and that we haven't taken any pictures of people. I tell my friends that I don't think they have to provide ID unless they want to. Moses says if we don't provide ID he will arrest us. I see this as ridiculous, and start walking again.
A few moments later, someone grabs me from behind. I turn around, and Moses is holding my arm. I yell "assault, assault" just in case it's not clear to the few bystanders that it's not consensual. Moses eventually lets me go, and again I continue on my way, and my friends come along.
But when they arrived at a local cafe to get some lunch, a State Trooper stopped them. Here's video of the incident, which ended with two hikers getting arrested for refusing to show their identification:


http://gothamist.com/2011/08/08/video_hikers_arrested_for_not_showi.php
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2012 10:34     Subject: Re:Why does the Obama administration object to voter id laws?

Germany Gets Set to Issue RFID ID Cards and Readers to Its Citizens
The government hopes its new national ID cards will foster Internet-based commerce, by enabling citizens to use the cards and readers at home to carry out online transactions without putting their personal or financial data at risk.


By Rhea Wessel

Oct. 6, 2010—In an ambitious project designed to provide citizens with a more secure form of identification, as well as a secure method for conducting business via the Internet, Germany will begin issuing RFID-based national identity cards on Nov. 1, 2010.

With the rollout of the new ID cards, Germany will become the first country to outfit its national ID cards with the same technological features of a passport—such as biometric photos, RFID chips and optional digital fingerprints—according to Andreas Reisen, who heads the division of the German Ministry of the Interior responsible for introducing the cards.

http://www.rfidjournal.com/article/view/7927
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2012 10:33     Subject: Why does the Obama administration object to voter id laws?

A driver's license is not an ID card. It is a driver's license. I think the republicans want to have a national registration program with identity cards. So now when you are stopped by the police, private contractor, or company, they will ask for your national ID card. If you do not show it you can be arrested(this is the case in many states now) or denied services. For convinces, these card could carry a RFID tag. This will allow you to move through security points easier(and track you, not that your phone doesn't do that now, but that by private companies) It is amusing that the right wing is pushing this with all their black helicopters they see. The dems should require any voter ID card to include your gun ownership status- you know register those guns. That would stop all this.(or Obama could come out in favor of a national ID card to prevent "voter fraud"...man that would kill it and Fox would be going crazy)
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2012 09:51     Subject: Why does the Obama administration object to voter id laws?

Anonymous wrote:We've always had to show ID in Fairfax. I would think that should be standard everywhere. How could you keep the same person from voting all over the place?


whether you give your name or show ID, your name is on a list. this is why you are told to vote at a specific location based on your address and like.

i cant just go to VA (live in MD) and walk in a place, give them my name and vote, and you couldnt do it coming to maryland.

Anonymous
Post 03/13/2012 09:47     Subject: Why does the Obama administration object to voter id laws?

We've always had to show ID in Fairfax. I would think that should be standard everywhere. How could you keep the same person from voting all over the place?
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2012 08:42     Subject: Why does the Obama administration object to voter id laws?

have we produced the evidence that there is a fundamental need for voter ID laws? im still waiting. all this back and forth on instances where we need ID is a diversion. what is the proof that there is some massive problem with people showing up claiming to be joe are really tom and vice versa?

i think passing laws that ensure the people counting the votes know basic math is more pressing than this.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2012 22:58     Subject: Re:Why does the Obama administration object to voter id laws?

From the left-leaning Wall Street Journal:

The Justice Department said that Hispanics registered to vote in Texas are considerably less likely to have drivers licenses or state-issued IDs than other voters, citing data supplied by Texas in its bid to win clearance for the law passed last May.


There it is. The State of Texas admits that registered Hispanic voters are going to have a problem producing ID. 'Nuff said.