Anonymous wrote:Maybe I am too cynical but I can't believe that the Janney principal wouldn't replace a student in Sept who up and moves without notice before count day. Why would they give up 8k when they already planned to have a child in that seat? Text books bought, class size set, teachers hired, etc.

Now I do believe that the Principal would tell parents that no OOB students at all because as we know.....the Janney parents can get a little unhinged at times.

This.

DCPS had a one time enrollment increase (in the past forty years) last year. What do you know? It was a fluke, generally attributed to the addition of new PS/PK classrooms. But, this year, enrollment fell again. Meanwhile, charter enrollment is now up to >40% of the public school population. That's not surprising, as charters continue their history of outperforming DCPS in the District.

It does seem possible that the JKLM schools would continue to experience over-crowding, but even they are beginning to lose students from their most educated families to the "high-concept" charter schools. That's a good thing though, because it opens up an escape hatch for students from the lousy and not-improving DCPS schools from East of the Park.

Janney parents do NOT want to hear this though. Being underwater by $100K or so is not really a big deal if you weren't planning to move and can afford the payments, but the last thing you want is for there to be even the perception that OOB students might be attending. By the way, "OOB" is widely perceived to be minority, poor, and low-performing, but since no-one is willing to connect those dots that openly, the preferred shorthand is "OOB" and the assumptions are allowed to stand. Bonus: we get to call ourselves "progressive" because we're "supporting" "public education."

PP, sorry for the confusion. I heard about them adding a class via word of mouth and they must have been talking about K not the PK.

Anonymous wrote:I know Janney added an additional PK class (bringing the total to 4) for the 2011-2012 year and I was wondering if the decision to add the class was made before or after the lottery. I know there was a lot of movement in the lottery last year with people in the 30's getting in and I'm curious if adding the classes allowed more wait listed students in or if that kind of movement is just normal.

What? There are currently 3 Janney pre-K classes, not 4. I just double checked on the Janney website and there are only 3 teachers and 3 aides for pre-K. They did expand K, 1st and 2nd to 4 classes this school year following the renovation.

I know Janney added an additional PK class (bringing the total to 4) for the 2011-2012 year and I was wondering if the decision to add the class was made before or after the lottery. I know there was a lot of movement in the lottery last year with people in the 30's getting in and I'm curious if adding the classes allowed more wait listed students in or if that kind of movement is just normal.

https://lottery.dcps.dc.gov/

There are 28 in bounds kids on the pre-k waitlist. Based on the past few years, I would think a good number will get in.

Does anyone have a link to the Janney Pre-K waitlist that just came out? I can't seem to find it. (I know it won't show changes as the list progresses.)

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I am too cynical but I can't believe that the Janney principal wouldn't replace a student in Sept who up and moves without notice before count day. Why would they give up 8k when they already planned to have a child in that seat? Text books bought, class size set, teachers hired, etc.

Now I do believe that the Principal would tell parents that no OOB students at all because as we know.....the Janney parents can get a little unhinged at times.

Janney is definitely closed to OOB this year per DCPS. The reason that Janney doesn't have to worry about count day is that the principal already knows that the school will far exceed the count that DCPS uses for budgeting. DCPS central office uses enrollment history rather than census figures when allocating budget estimates. Unfortunately, this approach doesn't take into consideration the huge baby boom going on in the neighborhood.

So count day doesn't count at Janney? Don't buy it.

What information do you have that allows you to dispute the PP's statement?

What information do you have to support it -- besides a Janney PTA meeting?

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I am too cynical but I can't believe that the Janney principal wouldn't replace a student in Sept who up and moves without notice before count day. Why would they give up 8k when they already planned to have a child in that seat? Text books bought, class size set, teachers hired, etc.

Now I do believe that the Principal would tell parents that no OOB students at all because as we know.....the Janney parents can get a little unhinged at times.

Janney is definitely closed to OOB this year per DCPS. The reason that Janney doesn't have to worry about count day is that the principal already knows that the school will far exceed the count that DCPS uses for budgeting. DCPS central office uses enrollment history rather than census figures when allocating budget estimates. Unfortunately, this approach doesn't take into consideration the huge baby boom going on in the neighborhood.

So count day doesn't count at Janney? Don't buy it.

What information do you have that allows you to dispute the PP's statement?

Anonymous wrote:Question: If enrollment exceeds the budget projection, is the funding to the school increased?

As I understand it, no. However, DCPS can take back money if the school doesn't meet enrollment projections.

Question: If enrollment exceeds the budget projection, is the funding to the school increased?

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe I am too cynical but I can't believe that the Janney principal wouldn't replace a student in Sept who up and moves without notice before count day. Why would they give up 8k when they already planned to have a child in that seat? Text books bought, class size set, teachers hired, etc.

Now I do believe that the Principal would tell parents that no OOB students at all because as we know.....the Janney parents can get a little unhinged at times.

Janney is definitely closed to OOB this year per DCPS. The reason that Janney doesn't have to worry about count day is that the principal already knows that the school will far exceed the count that DCPS uses for budgeting. DCPS central office uses enrollment history rather than census figures when allocating budget estimates. Unfortunately, this approach doesn't take into consideration the huge baby boom going on in the neighborhood.

So count day doesn't count at Janney? Don't buy it.

Anonymous wrote:Maybe I am too cynical but I can't believe that the Janney principal wouldn't replace a student in Sept who up and moves without notice before count day. Why would they give up 8k when they already planned to have a child in that seat? Text books bought, class size set, teachers hired, etc.

Now I do believe that the Principal would tell parents that no OOB students at all because as we know.....the Janney parents can get a little unhinged at times.

Janney is definitely closed to OOB this year per DCPS. The reason that Janney doesn't have to worry about count day is that the principal already knows that the school will far exceed the count that DCPS uses for budgeting. DCPS central office uses enrollment history rather than census figures when allocating budget estimates. Unfortunately, this approach doesn't take into consideration the huge baby boom going on in the neighborhood.

Maybe I am too cynical but I can't believe that the Janney principal wouldn't replace a student in Sept who up and moves without notice before count day. Why would they give up 8k when they already planned to have a child in that seat? Text books bought, class size set, teachers hired, etc.

Now I do believe that the Principal would tell parents that no OOB students at all because as we know.....the Janney parents can get a little unhinged at times.

Anonymous wrote:How do you know students won't leave for Basis? The school is just starting this fall.

Also, unless this overcrowding issue is relatively new to this year (which I doubt it is), it is not true that Janney does not take any OOB students. I know for a fact that my neighbor's daughter got in last year OOB for 5th grade.

Because the value prop that BASIS offers right now is not compeling enough for parent's to pick it over Deal.
Deal = a known entity, peer group / friends from the neighborhood, close to home.
BASIS = none of the above

Anonymous wrote:How do you know students won't leave for Basis? The school is just starting this fall.

Also, unless this overcrowding issue is relatively new to this year (which I doubt it is), it is not true that Janney does not take any OOB students. I know for a fact that my neighbor's daughter got in last year OOB for 5th grade.

yes, this is the FIRST year that Janney is closed to new OOB students. It was announced at the last PTA meeting and comes from DCPS central administration.