Anonymous
08/08/2012 13:16
Subject: No race diversity in teachers at my DC's daycare
Anonymous wrote:You all understand that "diversity" has little to do with skin tone and just about everything to do with socioeconomics?
I laugh when rich people pat themselves on the back that their schools and neighborhood are soooo diverse with the rainbow of nationalities. True diversity is interacting with people from different economic and educational backgrounds-which really does not mean much in this area, unless you sit down to talk with your housecleaner while she scrubs your floors.
Diversity has little to do with socioeconomics, but with a desire and capacity to understand, appreciate and integrate differences. Feeling entitled to "laugh when..." only shows you know less than you believe you do, sorry.
Anonymous
08/08/2012 13:00
Subject: No race diversity in teachers at my DC's daycare
I will be so happy when "diversity" stops being endlessly trotted out for liberals to use in order to feel good about themselves. It's a crock.
Anonymous
02/17/2012 11:53
Subject: No race diversity in teachers at my DC's daycare
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You all understand that "diversity" has little to do with skin tone and just about everything to do with socioeconomics?
I laugh when rich people pat themselves on the back that their schools and neighborhood are soooo diverse with the rainbow of nationalities. True diversity is interacting with people from different economic and educational backgrounds-which really does not mean much in this area, unless you sit down to talk with your housecleaner while she scrubs your floors.
To the extent that you are saying that ONLY socioeconomic diversity is "true" diversity, I disagree. Black, white, Latino, Asian - they may all earn the same, but their backgrounds, including their socioeconomic backgrounds, may be vastly different. There is much to appreciate and learn from racial diversity, diversity of origin (immigrant/non-immigrant), religious diversity, etc., etc., as well as from current socioeconomic diversity. The idea that there is only the one, true Diversity is preachy and misguided.
Oh great, this is a terrific lesson for your kids. "Pay attention, kids, observe that black people are different than us." Who are you, Strom Thurmond?
Only Strom Thurmond acknowledges that race is a factor that can shape people's experiences and outlook? Are you kidding me? You don't believe that non-white children might have a few different experiences growing up than white children, even controlling for income level? I think some of us have news for you!
Anonymous
02/17/2012 11:35
Subject: Re:No race diversity in teachers at my DC's daycare
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since when did we start calling daycare workers "teachers?" What kind of a euphemism is that?
At our old Bright Horizons, which had a predominately AA inner city staff, I also wondered this since I really didn't see any teaching going on. At our new suburban center which has a very diverse staff, including some white/European employees, the staff really does teach and they deserve the title. So glad we got out of the city and away from Bright Horizons.
What does the fact that the old BH "had a predominantly AA inner city staff" have to do with anything? Workers are either teaching or they are not. You sound as if you are attributing the lack of teaching to race/presumed "inner city"-ness. That makes you sound like a jerk.
+1. Wow, I didn't know that kids only learn if there are a few white/European "teachers" present. If that is the case, OP better move her children ASAP!
Anonymous
02/17/2012 10:08
Subject: No race diversity in teachers at my DC's daycare
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You all understand that "diversity" has little to do with skin tone and just about everything to do with socioeconomics?
I laugh when rich people pat themselves on the back that their schools and neighborhood are soooo diverse with the rainbow of nationalities. True diversity is interacting with people from different economic and educational backgrounds-which really does not mean much in this area, unless you sit down to talk with your housecleaner while she scrubs your floors.
To the extent that you are saying that ONLY socioeconomic diversity is "true" diversity, I disagree. Black, white, Latino, Asian - they may all earn the same, but their backgrounds, including their socioeconomic backgrounds, may be vastly different. There is much to appreciate and learn from racial diversity, diversity of origin (immigrant/non-immigrant), religious diversity, etc., etc., as well as from current socioeconomic diversity. The idea that there is only the one, true Diversity is preachy and misguided.
Oh great, this is a terrific lesson for your kids. "Pay attention, kids, observe that black people are different than us." Who are you, Strom Thurmond?
Anonymous
02/17/2012 09:47
Subject: No race diversity in teachers at my DC's daycare
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You all understand that "diversity" has little to do with skin tone and just about everything to do with socioeconomics?
I laugh when rich people pat themselves on the back that their schools and neighborhood are soooo diverse with the rainbow of nationalities. True diversity is interacting with people from different economic and educational backgrounds-which really does not mean much in this area, unless you sit down to talk with your housecleaner while she scrubs your floors.
To the extent that you are saying that ONLY socioeconomic diversity is "true" diversity, I disagree. Black, white, Latino, Asian - they may all earn the same, but their backgrounds, including their socioeconomic backgrounds, may be vastly different. There is much to appreciate and learn from racial diversity, diversity of origin (immigrant/non-immigrant), religious diversity, etc., etc., as well as from current socioeconomic diversity. The idea that there is only the one, true Diversity is preachy and misguided.
puhlease.
I attended all girls Madeira boarding school. The skin was diverse, but there was NOTHING diverse about the students other than what country they vacationed at during breaks.
Oh sure, I got to witness traditional Chinese and Indian dance and ate some "diverse" foods, but when you are in the same socioeconomic class, things are pretty much the same...same opportunities in life, same top tier colleges and universities, and same amounts of relative extravagance. Oh yea, there was some diversity in country club membership…ya know congressional, Washington, or River Bend-so yea, you’re right-it was quite diverse.
To the PP - perhaps you are correct that the 1% have more in common with one another than with anyone else; I'll defer to your superior experience on that point. But the fact that you did not learn anything from interacting with people of other races and from other countries doesn't mean that *nobody* does.
Anonymous
02/17/2012 09:45
Subject: Re:No race diversity in teachers at my DC's daycare
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Since when did we start calling daycare workers "teachers?" What kind of a euphemism is that?
At our old Bright Horizons, which had a predominately AA inner city staff, I also wondered this since I really didn't see any teaching going on. At our new suburban center which has a very diverse staff, including some white/European employees, the staff really does teach and they deserve the title. So glad we got out of the city and away from Bright Horizons.
What does the fact that the old BH "had a predominantly AA inner city staff" have to do with anything? Workers are either teaching or they are not. You sound as if you are attributing the lack of teaching to race/presumed "inner city"-ness. That makes you sound like a jerk.
Anonymous
02/17/2012 09:33
Subject: Re:No race diversity in teachers at my DC's daycare
Anonymous wrote:Since when did we start calling daycare workers "teachers?" What kind of a euphemism is that?
At our old Bright Horizons, which had a predominately AA inner city staff, I also wondered this since I really didn't see any teaching going on. At our new suburban center which has a very diverse staff, including some white/European employees, the staff really does teach and they deserve the title. So glad we got out of the city and away from Bright Horizons.
Anonymous
02/17/2012 08:50
Subject: No race diversity in teachers at my DC's daycare
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You all understand that "diversity" has little to do with skin tone and just about everything to do with socioeconomics?
I laugh when rich people pat themselves on the back that their schools and neighborhood are soooo diverse with the rainbow of nationalities. True diversity is interacting with people from different economic and educational backgrounds-which really does not mean much in this area, unless you sit down to talk with your housecleaner while she scrubs your floors.
To the extent that you are saying that ONLY socioeconomic diversity is "true" diversity, I disagree. Black, white, Latino, Asian - they may all earn the same, but their backgrounds, including their socioeconomic backgrounds, may be vastly different. There is much to appreciate and learn from racial diversity, diversity of origin (immigrant/non-immigrant), religious diversity, etc., etc., as well as from current socioeconomic diversity. The idea that there is only the one, true Diversity is preachy and misguided.
puhlease.
I attended all girls Madeira boarding school. The skin was diverse, but there was NOTHING diverse about the students other than what country they vacationed at during breaks.
Oh sure, I got to witness traditional Chinese and Indian dance and ate some "diverse" foods, but when you are in the same socioeconomic class, things are pretty much the same...same opportunities in life, same top tier colleges and universities, and same amounts of relative extravagance. Oh yea, there was some diversity in country club membership…ya know congressional, Washington, or River Bend-so yea, you’re right-it was quite diverse.
Anonymous
02/16/2012 23:25
Subject: Re:No race diversity in teachers at my DC's daycare
Anonymous wrote:Since when did we start calling daycare workers "teachers?" What kind of a euphemism is that?
Since many daycare centers (ours included) are also preschools. Check out this job posting for a lead teacher at the GMU center: http://careerforum.naeyc.org/jobs/4648393/lead-teacher
A 4-year degree is required.
Anonymous
02/16/2012 22:45
Subject: Re:No race diversity in teachers at my DC's daycare
OP- Can you explain exactly what your concern is? From your post it sounds like you are upset that the government doesn't have race quotas. So are you saying that you are upset with yourself for sending your child to a daycare that doesn't have race quotas? I found your post confusing and strange.
Anonymous
02/16/2012 21:19
Subject: Re:No race diversity in teachers at my DC's daycare
Since when did we start calling daycare workers "teachers?" What kind of a euphemism is that?
Anonymous
02/16/2012 20:50
Subject: No race diversity in teachers at my DC's daycare
Anonymous wrote:"It boils down to what socioeconomic group will work for the lower wages".
That's your answer right there.
Exactly. I looked into working in a daycare center during college and the wages were basically minimum wage or slightly above for non-degreed workers. The head teachers had to have a four year degree and even then, they made very little.
Anonymous
02/16/2012 20:47
Subject: No race diversity in teachers at my DC's daycare
A lot of the preschool teachers are my kids preschool are white though - and I doubt they make more than daycare workers. I think it's considered "higher skilled" though and I get the impression that at least some of the teachers just love the job and don't need the money. So low pay doesn't fully explain what is going on here.
Anonymous
02/16/2012 18:11
Subject: Re:No race diversity in teachers at my DC's daycare
I'm assuming that the kids who attend the daycare are different races? There's your diversity.