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Anonymous wrote:Will your kids be able to accept a steep decline in their standard of living when they are first out on their own? Or do they expect to be able to have Apple and Tiffany and whatever other name brand you can think of? I think it's a good test of whether they are entitled or not. Too bad it takes until college.

It won't take until college. The spoiling parents will continue to spoil them throughout college and things will get ugly when the snowflakes graduate, and think that a BA degree entitles them to a starting salary of $100k and an apartment in Georgetown.

Is is spoiling because it's something you can't afford? If DH and I sit in first class, should DC sit in coach with the nanny? If we want to ski in the Alps, should we send the kids on a separate trip to Ski Liberty? If I'm in Nordstrom buying clothes for me, do I have to schlep out to Walmart to buy things for the kids? Will this teach them a lesson? Just because it's expensive for you, doesn't mean it's expensive for me.

Anonymous wrote:Will your kids be able to accept a steep decline in their standard of living when they are first out on their own? Or do they expect to be able to have Apple and Tiffany and whatever other name brand you can think of? I think it's a good test of whether they are entitled or not. Too bad it takes until college.

It won't take until college. The spoiling parents will continue to spoil them throughout college and things will get ugly when the snowflakes graduate, and think that a BA degree entitles them to a starting salary of $100k and an apartment in Georgetown.

Will your kids be able to accept a steep decline in their standard of living when they are first out on their own? Or do they expect to be able to have Apple and Tiffany and whatever other name brand you can think of? I think it's a good test of whether they are entitled or not. Too bad it takes until college.

I do agree that if you raise bratty children their spouses are in for a LOT of counseling. Probably not unlike their parents!

Anonymous wrote:I don't think I need to read the article, because I know that every parent on these boards has entitled kids. Entitled does not = bratty. Call it privileged if you like, but let's face it.

I would equate having an entitled attitude with being bratty.

Not all brats are entitled (even poor kids can be bratty if their parents don't raise them right), but most likely all kids with an overly entitled attitude as outlined in the article are brats.

Not the PP, but I know many people who INSIST on brand names and put down or mock less pricey names. They are the first to complain about money AND the first to be entitled. They don't have enough money to be making the choices they do, but they insist, even if it means borrowing money from elderly relatives. Yes, they also feel entitled to their elderly relatives money (who by the way, are not rich). That is NOT what I want to teach my children, personally.

I also know people who were raised with great things (not just nice but great), who insist on scrimping and saving. Not because they have to, but because they want to teach their children that all important lesson. I suppose they want to make sure they have enough for their college educations, as the handouts inevitably do not last forever. While some people may try to work the system, I would not want to be there when the system says "no way, not this time" and they are inevitably left behind because a name brand was more important to them.

I don't think I need to read the article, because I know that every parent on these boards has entitled kids. Entitled does not = bratty. Call it privileged if you like, but let's face it.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not all about "things." We have the money to buy things so we buy nice things. Therefore, the kids' (teens) things are all nice: Ugg, Northface, Starbucks, Tiffany, etc, nice vacations, nice cars, all Apple everything etc, etc. If the kids are nice and compassionate and thankful, then having all nice things does not make them entitled. I think it may mean just that their parents have plenty of money.

If you are this focused on labels and brand names, then I guarantee you your kids are "entitled." It has less to do with what you're giving them, than what you're teaching them.

Not really. There's no "focus" on these things and we're not "teaching" them anything except maybe choose quality over crap. DH and I grew up with crappy things and we don't want crappy things now. And, btw, you can't "guarantee" anything.

Expensive does not always equal quality. Sometimes you really as just paying for the name and the exclusivity.

Doesn't expensive, we just don't want crappy.

Except that the one thing that the items that you listed in your initial post have in common is the (high) cost. A Tiffany diamond is no better than a diamond of similar carat, color and clarity from another jeweler it just cost more bc Tiffany's UFCname commands a premium. Also, the fact that you included "starbucks" is a total joke bc their drinks are totally hit or miss but I know that little girls (including mine) like to walk around with the little green mermaid in their hands.

No idea what a green mermaid is but posters here can guarantee that your DD is bratty and that we can feel sorry for her future DH.

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By buying your children jewelry from Tiffany, you are not teaching them to "choose quality over crap". You are teaching them to choose a recognizable logo and name brand that is not worth the money you pay for it. I feel for the man who one day has to buy and engagement ring for your DD. You are right, nothing is a guarantee. But, I am still willing to bet that your children are bratty.

We gave 15 yo DD a Tiffany bracelet with a dove for her Confirmation that she spent 2 years preparing for. So we're "teaching" her to choose a brand name "not worth the money" and she's "guaranteed" to be bratty? Hilarious. To be so full of righteous wisdom, I hope you're God.

I'm sorry, but if you are the same poster who also wrote about Northface, Uggs, Starbucks, nice cars and Apple everything for your children, you are just full of it. I am not god, that's for sure, but from the sounds of your posts, you might need a little come to Jesus talk about spoiling your children.

I think you should be sorry for casting judgment on others as you'ge done here. A little humility goes a long way.

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By buying your children jewelry from Tiffany, you are not teaching them to "choose quality over crap". You are teaching them to choose a recognizable logo and name brand that is not worth the money you pay for it. I feel for the man who one day has to buy and engagement ring for your DD. You are right, nothing is a guarantee. But, I am still willing to bet that your children are bratty.

We gave 15 yo DD a Tiffany bracelet with a dove for her Confirmation that she spent 2 years preparing for. So we're "teaching" her to choose a brand name "not worth the money" and she's "guaranteed" to be bratty? Hilarious. To be so full of righteous wisdom, I hope you're God.

I'm sorry, but if you are the same poster who also wrote about Northface, Uggs, Starbucks, nice cars and Apple everything for your children, you are just full of it. I am not god, that's for sure, but from the sounds of your posts, you might need a little come to Jesus talk about spoiling your children.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not all about "things." We have the money to buy things so we buy nice things. Therefore, the kids' (teens) things are all nice: Ugg, Northface, Starbucks, Tiffany, etc, nice vacations, nice cars, all Apple everything etc, etc. If the kids are nice and compassionate and thankful, then having all nice things does not make them entitled. I think it may mean just that their parents have plenty of money.

If you are this focused on labels and brand names, then I guarantee you your kids are "entitled." It has less to do with what you're giving them, than what you're teaching them.

Not really. There's no "focus" on these things and we're not "teaching" them anything except maybe choose quality over crap. DH and I grew up with crappy things and we don't want crappy things now. And, btw, you can't "guarantee" anything.

Expensive does not always equal quality. Sometimes you really as just paying for the name and the exclusivity.

Doesn't expensive, we just don't want crappy.

Except that the one thing that the items that you listed in your initial post have in common is the (high) cost. A Tiffany diamond is no better than a diamond of similar carat, color and clarity from another jeweler it just cost more bc Tiffany's name commands a premium. Also, the fact that you included "starbucks" is a total joke bc their drinks are totally hit or miss but I know that little girls (including mine) like to walk around with the little green mermaid in their hands.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not all about "things." We have the money to buy things so we buy nice things. Therefore, the kids' (teens) things are all nice: Ugg, Northface, Starbucks, Tiffany, etc, nice vacations, nice cars, all Apple everything etc, etc. If the kids are nice and compassionate and thankful, then having all nice things does not make them entitled. I think it may mean just that their parents have plenty of money.

If you are this focused on labels and brand names, then I guarantee you your kids are "entitled." It has less to do with what you're giving them, than what you're teaching them.

Not really. There's no "focus" on these things and we're not "teaching" them anything except maybe choose quality over crap. DH and I grew up with crappy things and we don't want crappy things now. And, btw, you can't "guarantee" anything.

Expensive does not always equal quality. Sometimes you really as just paying for the name and the exclusivity.

Doesn't expensive, we just don't want crappy.

By buying your children jewelry from Tiffany, you are not teaching them to "choose quality over crap". You are teaching them to choose a recognizable logo and name brand that is not worth the money you pay for it. I feel for the man who one day has to buy and engagement ring for your DD. You are right, nothing is a guarantee. But, I am still willing to bet that your children are bratty.

We gave 15 yo DD a Tiffany bracelet with a dove for her Confirmation that she spent 2 years preparing for. So we're "teaching" her to choose a brand name "not worth the money" and she's "guaranteed" to be bratty? Hilarious. To be so full of righteous wisdom, I hope you're God.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not all about "things." We have the money to buy things so we buy nice things. Therefore, the kids' (teens) things are all nice: Ugg, Northface, Starbucks, Tiffany, etc, nice vacations, nice cars, all Apple everything etc, etc. If the kids are nice and compassionate and thankful, then having all nice things does not make them entitled. I think it may mean just that their parents have plenty of money.

If you are this focused on labels and brand names, then I guarantee you your kids are "entitled." It has less to do with what you're giving them, than what you're teaching them.

Not really. There's no "focus" on these things and we're not "teaching" them anything except maybe choose quality over crap. DH and I grew up with crappy things and we don't want crappy things now. And, btw, you can't "guarantee" anything.

Expensive does not always equal quality. Sometimes you really as just paying for the name and the exclusivity.

This thread is funny and just what I expected - not in a good way! It looks like the gimmes are out and about today. I know people who have tons of money. We generally did not realize this until we knew them for many years and figured it out for ourselves. We have our own successes, and therefor do not resent them, otherwise I suspect they would not want to spend time with us (if we were shallow). I do not expect them to "treat" us to anything - I'm am not spending time with them for their money, and I was not raised by good people to count others pennies!

I would suspect all their money is tied up anyway, its not like people put it in their mattress these days. WTH?

Besides, how do you think they hang onto all that money? By spending it on the gimmes? Yeah, right. Not a very smart bunch here, but there sure are a bunch of know it alls.