Anonymous
Post 02/06/2012 10:13     Subject: Re:Keep the Poor Students in Poor Schools
Anonymous wrote:
it is a myth


Bullshit. I am proof of that, and if you went to law school you are proof of that. I know many first generation college grads who busted their buts to move up the socio-economic ladder. A lack of generational wealth does not equate to a lack of opportunity.


It's not a myth. Do some reading. Yes, I went to law school, but my brother dropped out in the 9th grade and my sister did not go to college. I am 1 out of 3 kids who made it.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2012 10:11     Subject: Re:Keep the Poor Students in Poor Schools
Anonymous wrote:
FA recipient here. The worst part is having to be around all of the insufferable big law parents. You are a boring lot and your bratty entitled kids really aren't that smart.


Look, I completely agree with you about the boring BigLaw parents whose kids are only moderately bright in many cases. Our school is full of them (and kids of real estate developers. Lots of S class Mercedes, not a one is a mental giant).

But what is rich here is that you wouldn't be in your school without these men. You owe your child's ability to attend, let's say, GDS or NCS, to the equity partners at Covington. Who pull in $1 million a year and give annual gifts of $10 - $50,000 to your school. (I am none of the above and even I can clearly see this common dynamic).

Does that uplift you or bother you, FA parent? Before you answer, think of your in-bound school.


How much of that $50,000 goes to FA and how much goes to bells and whistles. When I looked at private schools for my child, I saw so many things that no child needs. Art studios with multi story windows, and indoor swimming pools, and 4 different playgrounds, and little cottages for kindergarteners, and golf courses for high schoolers. None of those things have anything to do with the quality of education. I have trouble believing that the only reason tuition is so high is because of the FA families.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2012 10:05     Subject: Re:Keep the Poor Students in Poor Schools
FA recipient here. The worst part is having to be around all of the insufferable big law parents. You are a boring lot and your bratty entitled kids really aren't that smart.


Look, I completely agree with you about the boring BigLaw parents whose kids are only moderately bright in many cases. Our school is full of them (and kids of real estate developers. Lots of S class Mercedes, not a one is a mental giant).

But what is rich here is that you wouldn't be in your school without these men. You owe your child's ability to attend, let's say, GDS or NCS, to the equity partners at Covington. Who pull in $1 million a year and give annual gifts of $10 - $50,000 to your school. (I am none of the above and even I can clearly see this common dynamic).

Does that uplift you or bother you, FA parent? Before you answer, think of your in-bound school.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2012 09:53     Subject: Re:Keep the Poor Students in Poor Schools
How many poor families, even with financial aid, send their kids to expensive private schools in this city? I know a number of families who receive financial aid, but all of them are solidly middle class. I'm sure there are a handful who are actually low income, but

My child received 50% aid for preschool, and according to his FAFSA would have qualified for signficantly more in private elementary school (decided to go public and withdrew the application), but we're still solidly middle class, making about $80K a year. However, I'm guessing that we'd be on the lower end of the financial aide spectrum in most of the private schools represented here.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2012 09:09     Subject: Keep the Poor Students in Poor Schools
Anonymous wrote:The problem is fa artificially raises the cost of tuition thus pushing out middle class families. I think that is the anger and I understand that.


I personally have absolutely no issue with FA. Support it, including financially. But the above P should understand that a private school's overall cost structure has as more to do with this middle class problem as FA. I am fully in favor of teacher pay. But it is all the extras that simply are unnecessary. If private schools could control their costs, more would be able to pay tuition.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2012 09:03     Subject: Keep the Poor Students in Poor Schools
I think a lot of the resentment comes from people who are in between "have" and "have not." That is, people who make healthy incomes but also have high expenses and private school is still a financial strain, even if they have the means. The very rich can write a check for $30k with no problem. The very poor get a hand out. So, like Romney, the very middle class (!) don't care about either group.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2012 08:59     Subject: Keep the Poor Students in Poor Schools
Anonymous wrote:Please stop feeding the troll on this thread. You just give her more power when you respond to her garbage.


OP is the troll, I think. I read a bunch of the independent school posts on this board, and haven't seen anyone seriously oppose the idea of financial aid in general, although there have certainly been those who criticize the particulars of how it is implemented in some cases. The people OP is criticizing are, in my view, largely imaginary.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2012 08:55     Subject: Keep the Poor Students in Poor Schools
Please stop feeding the troll on this thread. You just give her more power when you respond to her garbage.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2012 08:22     Subject: Keep the Poor Students in Poor Schools
The problem is fa artificially raises the cost of tuition thus pushing out middle class families. I think that is the anger and I understand that.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2012 08:21     Subject: Re:Keep the Poor Students in Poor Schools
Anonymous wrote:FA recipient here. The worst part is having to be around all of the insufferable big law parents. You are a boring lot and your bratty entitled kids really aren't that smart.


I am a family that does not receive FA but AMEN to this.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2012 07:44     Subject: Re:Keep the Poor Students in Poor Schools
FA recipient here. The worst part is having to be around all of the insufferable big law parents. You are a boring lot and your bratty entitled kids really aren't that smart.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2012 07:43     Subject: Keep the Poor Students in Poor Schools
Anonymous wrote:Funny, all of the PPs who say the PP responders are complaining about FA. Actually, OP is the one complaining. PPs are just responding.



OP here andd I've responded a couple of times. I wasn't complaining I just wanted some insight as to why people were so bitter about it. If I was complaining I would stop reading this DCUM, that way I wouldn't have to keep reading about it. See choices. Why do something and complain? No one's anonymous resentment will stop how Financcial Aid works. As I said before if you're that upset about it home school or take it up with the decision makers of the school.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2012 07:18     Subject: Keep the Poor Students in Poor Schools
Funny, all of the PPs who say the PP responders are complaining about FA. Actually, OP is the one complaining. PPs are just responding.

Anonymous
Post 02/06/2012 06:38     Subject: Keep the Poor Students in Poor Schools
But a lack of generational wealth means we don't all start on the same stair! Financial aid provides opportunities but don't pretend we all have the same challenges and circumstabces.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2012 01:11     Subject: Re:Keep the Poor Students in Poor Schools
it is a myth


Bullshit. I am proof of that, and if you went to law school you are proof of that. I know many first generation college grads who busted their buts to move up the socio-economic ladder. A lack of generational wealth does not equate to a lack of opportunity.