Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Norway is well known to place the state above parents, contrary to the glowing report given by a PP.
As a homeschooling mother with an Indian husband, I have been following this case closely:
http://friendsofdomenic.blogspot.com/
Their son was taken from them when they were on a plane, emigrating from Norway to India. Their offense? Briefly homeschooling their son to ease his transition to a new home.
One reason why we should never take our liberty for granted. While I may have a hard time with my in-laws' practices of sleeping with my kids and hand-feeding them, I am grateful we (currently) live in a country where the state cannot call such practices abusive.
Are you saying NORWAY is a country that consistently overreaches their bounds? NORWAY??? A place where we all could only hope and dream of living with the highest quality of life in the world!!
You think the standard of living in Norway makes it a utopia??? That the government is NOT intrusive? That is hilarious and sad. So many people here think Western Europe is so forward, so wonderfully progressive and yet citizens there are not nearly as free as they are here. The restrictions on liberties such as free speech in many of these places would blow. your. mind. I think all of the people here who mock staunch patriots, tea party-ers, etc. should move to somewhere like Denmark, where the government gives you a list of names to choose from when naming your kid. It's not all extended maternity leave and streets so safe you can leave your baby outside in a stroller.
That's not exactly correct. Try getting your facts into the appropriate century/decade. Or even naming a baby in one of these countries, then get back to me.
Anonymous wrote:Yes, true.
If you did 2 nights of CIO in my coutry they'd take your kids away no questions asked if the neighbor reported you. And all your fellow American moms would be here defending you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What does "hand fed" mean?
Are you serious????
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Some cultures eat with their hands, you know?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Norway is well known to place the state above parents, contrary to the glowing report given by a PP.
As a homeschooling mother with an Indian husband, I have been following this case closely:
http://friendsofdomenic.blogspot.com/
Their son was taken from them when they were on a plane, emigrating from Norway to India. Their offense? Briefly homeschooling their son to ease his transition to a new home.
One reason why we should never take our liberty for granted. While I may have a hard time with my in-laws' practices of sleeping with my kids and hand-feeding them, I am grateful we (currently) live in a country where the state cannot call such practices abusive.
Are you saying NORWAY is a country that consistently overreaches their bounds? NORWAY??? A place where we all could only hope and dream of living with the highest quality of life in the world!!
You think the standard of living in Norway makes it a utopia??? That the government is NOT intrusive? That is hilarious and sad. So many people here think Western Europe is so forward, so wonderfully progressive and yet citizens there are not nearly as free as they are here. The restrictions on liberties such as free speech in many of these places would blow. your. mind. I think all of the people here who mock staunch patriots, tea party-ers, etc. should move to somewhere like Denmark, where the government gives you a list of names to choose from when naming your kid. It's not all extended maternity leave and streets so safe you can leave your baby outside in a stroller.
Anonymous wrote:For all you people who think Norwegian child protective services has a point saving Norway's superior effing child rearing norms, yeah you know jack! They could have sent the parents and the kids back to where they came from, but no they chose instead to keep the children. The Norwegian CPS has not reported the following charges: co sleeping, hand feeding, and emotional disconnect of the mother (probably post-partum depression), nothing else. All of which suggest she needed help rather than a ruling that allows the parents to see the children a few times a YEAR.
You go live in a welfare state run amok. reminds me of Lisbeth Salander character. no wonder the book struck such a chord. Frankly, f--k Norway. It is now my shit-list.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Norway is well known to place the state above parents, contrary to the glowing report given by a PP.
As a homeschooling mother with an Indian husband, I have been following this case closely:
http://friendsofdomenic.blogspot.com/
Their son was taken from them when they were on a plane, emigrating from Norway to India. Their offense? Briefly homeschooling their son to ease his transition to a new home.
One reason why we should never take our liberty for granted. While I may have a hard time with my in-laws' practices of sleeping with my kids and hand-feeding them, I am grateful we (currently) live in a country where the state cannot call such practices abusive.
Are you saying NORWAY is a country that consistently overreaches their bounds? NORWAY??? A place where we all could only hope and dream of living with the highest quality of life in the world!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Norway is well known to place the state above parents, contrary to the glowing report given by a PP.
As a homeschooling mother with an Indian husband, I have been following this case closely:
http://friendsofdomenic.blogspot.com/
Their son was taken from them when they were on a plane, emigrating from Norway to India. Their offense? Briefly homeschooling their son to ease his transition to a new home.
One reason why we should never take our liberty for granted. While I may have a hard time with my in-laws' practices of sleeping with my kids and hand-feeding them, I am grateful we (currently) live in a country where the state cannot call such practices abusive.
Are you saying NORWAY is a country that consistently overreaches their bounds? NORWAY??? A place where we all could only hope and dream of living with the highest quality of life in the world!!
Brain blip on my part--pregnant and a stomach virus going through my kids--clearly, the linked story is from Sweden, not Norway. My apologies.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Norway is well known to place the state above parents, contrary to the glowing report given by a PP.
As a homeschooling mother with an Indian husband, I have been following this case closely:
http://friendsofdomenic.blogspot.com/
Their son was taken from them when they were on a plane, emigrating from Norway to India. Their offense? Briefly homeschooling their son to ease his transition to a new home.
One reason why we should never take our liberty for granted. While I may have a hard time with my in-laws' practices of sleeping with my kids and hand-feeding them, I am grateful we (currently) live in a country where the state cannot call such practices abusive.
Are you saying NORWAY is a country that consistently overreaches their bounds? NORWAY??? A place where we all could only hope and dream of living with the highest quality of life in the world!!
Anonymous wrote:Norway is well known to place the state above parents, contrary to the glowing report given by a PP.
As a homeschooling mother with an Indian husband, I have been following this case closely:
http://friendsofdomenic.blogspot.com/
Their son was taken from them when they were on a plane, emigrating from Norway to India. Their offense? Briefly homeschooling their son to ease his transition to a new home.
One reason why we should never take our liberty for granted. While I may have a hard time with my in-laws' practices of sleeping with my kids and hand-feeding them, I am grateful we (currently) live in a country where the state cannot call such practices abusive.
Anonymous wrote:Yes, true.
If you did 2 nights of CIO in my coutry they'd take your kids away no questions asked if the neighbor reported you. And all your fellow American moms would be here defending you.
It's a matter of perception. You guys think you're the best in the world and you believe you hold the absolute truth in your hands and this is disgusting. There's a huge range of normal and healthy. This poor woman was sick and they took her children away. They're taking advantage of her citizenship status on top of everything. This wrong in so many levels!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here: yes, that was what I read in a news report. It's important to read as much of the news as possible. Clearly, on some level, the parents were in over the head and/or Norwegian child protective authorities saw things they didn't like and made some very dangerous assumptions. The approach is incredibly punitive, and quite frightening, but this is not a first for Norway's child protective service. Read some of the materials by Marianne Haslev Skånland, a Norwegian scholar who is affiliated with the Nordic Committee for Human Rights and who has been tracking this issue for many years. There are reports of similar forced separation out of Sweden and the UK as well. There appears to be a blurry line between a mission to protect the children's interests and perpetuating cultural ignorance. There were many ways the child protection workers could have dealt with this, but they chose a particularly horrifying route that preyed on the vulnerabilities of an immigrant family with limited ability to appeal the court decision.
OP you are utterly correct. If this happened to an American family with the same exact facts these PPs would be up in arms. Instead they are displaying their xenophobia. It's disgusting.
Not true. I would say the same if it were an American family. Don't move to another country and expect it to be like home. It isn't. You are all extremely naive, IMHO.