I cannot believe that the discussion about this tragedy has devolved into a debate on choice and Catholic bashing. I hope and pray that whoever abandoned this baby is brought to justice and gets the help/support they need. May this poor little child rest in peace.

^^It was Nebraska

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-11-19/us/nebraska.safe.haven_1_dave-heineman-safe-haven-law-nebraska-lawmakers?_s=PM:US

Anonymous wrote:The DC safe haven law only applies for the first 7 days of an infant's life. This baby was 2-3 weeks old, apparently. If the time period in the law was extended, could this have been avoided? Everybody in DC should lobby for extending the period under which you can give up your child without questions asked.

They tried this in another state. Not sure which. But people were dropping their 15 year old children off at safe houses.

What if the mother was being chased by her abusive boyfriend, left the baby on the doorstep hoping to return later when she was safe? But instead the boyfriend murdered her and the baby was no where to be found.

The DC safe haven law only applies for the first 7 days of an infant's life. This baby was 2-3 weeks old, apparently. If the time period in the law was extended, could this have been avoided? Everybody in DC should lobby for extending the period under which you can give up your child without questions asked.

I wonder if the mother was going through some crisis like Post Partum Depression or Post Partum Psychosis...

Poor little baby! DH and I cried reading this.

Oh stop. This is not about for or against abortion here. No one knows what happened to the child. You all assume it was a teenager. You all assume it was the mother that left the child. You all assume the child was alive when it was left at the door step. Stop assuming. A baby died. Not time to point fingers, it will not bring the child back.

Anonymous wrote:I'm so afraid we are going to start hearing more stories like this as more women's rights are being aggressively taken away state by state.

This and more women dying because women will still find a way to abort unfortunately putting their own lives at stake.
You can thank the catholics and their need to control a womans' reproductive rights, even those who do not share your beliefs.
I am not even talking about abortion because you all want to prevent giving women birth control to begin with.

Anonymous wrote:I second. Stopping a bunch of cells from developing is preferable to killing a liveborn infant.

This!

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Anonymous wrote:Why is there suck a lack of safe haven promotion? No commercials, billboards, etc...

Agreed. They should provide the information to local area high schools are require them to post it as well as posting in any other public building.

Maybe its so poorly advertised bc people hate the idea of abandoned baby .

Or we could start at the other end by supporting comprehensive sex ed and securing reproductive rights, rather than waiting for someone to abandon a baby.

This is a tragedy, though.

Exactly! Or waiting for someone to abuse a baby, torture a baby and so on.....

Anonymous wrote:So sad. I wished they would have left her with me. I would have adopted her.

No, you wouldn't. No one knew the child was there and she froze to death. The father of the little boy who found her said, "if only someone had knocked or rung the doorbell." There was no way to save her and it is beyond tragic and sad but the mother, or whoever did this, should face criminal charges and I hope she/he gets a long time in prison to think about what she did.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is there suck a lack of safe haven promotion? No commercials, billboards, etc...

Agreed. They should provide the information to local area high schools are require them to post it as well as posting in any other public building.

Maybe its so poorly advertised bc people hate the idea of abandoned baby .

Or we could start at the other end by supporting comprehensive sex ed and securing reproductive rights, rather than waiting for someone to abandon a baby.

This is a tragedy, though.

Both are done and are more highly marketed then a safe haven sites.

So it would have been commendable for the mother to have aborted the baby?

Yes!

1st best would have been using protection so this didn't happen in the first place. But certainly I would have thought we could agree that abortion is preferable to infanticide.

In both cases, the mother chooses to end her child's life. So as long as she ends the life privately, and pays someone else to do it for her, she is making a good choice, but if she does it publicly, she is a terrible person?

What if she had gone to Dr. Brigham, the abortionist in MD who apparently kept his freezer full of full-term aborted fetuses? Are those abortions still preferable to post-birth infanticide? Why? Because they are more surgical, medical?

Simply put, the PPs who bemoaned the fact that this poor baby was not aborted earlier in her short life share the mindset of the mother who abandoned her child. Either way, they've decided her life was not worth living.

I disagree. It is not just a tragedy that the sweet thing suffered horribly before she died. It is a tragedy that she did not get to live. Someone would have loved her, and she had love to give.

I second. Stopping a bunch of cells from developing is preferable to killing a liveborn infant.

Most of the posters would be cheering if this occurred a few months earlier in the womb

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Anonymous wrote:Why is there suck a lack of safe haven promotion? No commercials, billboards, etc...

Agreed. They should provide the information to local area high schools are require them to post it as well as posting in any other public building.

Maybe its so poorly advertised bc people hate the idea of abandoned baby .

Or we could start at the other end by supporting comprehensive sex ed and securing reproductive rights, rather than waiting for someone to abandon a baby.

This is a tragedy, though.

Both are done and are more highly marketed then a safe haven sites.

So it would have been commendable for the mother to have aborted the baby?

Yes!

1st best would have been using protection so this didn't happen in the first place. But certainly I would have thought we could agree that abortion is preferable to infanticide.