Anonymous
Post 01/11/2012 18:19     Subject: when are 1st-grade NNAT scores coming?
Reverse Engineer: I took the composite score. I have seen kids score perfect in one section, but get less than 100 in the remaining sections. They are in pool, with a composite below 110, and usually not admitted.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2012 16:44     Subject: Re:when are 1st-grade NNAT scores coming?
To Mr./Ms. Reverse Engineer. Did you also look at just taking the top score and the GBRS and dividing by 2? The reason I ask is that I understand that it only takes 1 high score (usually 130 or higher) and you are in the pool.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2012 16:43     Subject: Re:when are 1st-grade NNAT scores coming?
To Mr./Ms. Reverse Engineer. Did you also look at just taking the top score and the GBRS and dividing by 2? The reason I ask is that I understand that it only takes 1 high score (usually 130 or higher) and you are in the pool.
Anonymous
Post 01/11/2012 16:39     Subject: when are 1st-grade NNAT scores coming?
What's the raw score ( correct responses out of 48) needed in nnat2 1st grade test to achieve a score of 132 or higher?
Thanks
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2012 19:57     Subject: when are 1st-grade NNAT scores coming?
The mean of the scores. This formula is something I reversed engineered. It may or may not be what fcps does
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2012 19:40     Subject: when are 1st-grade NNAT scores coming?
Anonymous wrote:20:44: From what I can tell, the group test scores and GBRS are weighted about the same. It is just that we do not know things like the the mean values of GBRS. However, based on a older report, we can assume the GBRS x 10 is about the same as the test scores. So, a 13 GBRS is like 130 in the cogAT's. That may not be exactly right.

Now, lets assume it is a numbers game.

(GBRS x10 + test scores)/2 > 125 and you are in.

So with a 9 GBRS and 140 test scores, toy are at 115, and not in.

An 11 and 140, and you are in. (these numbers can be constrained from last years reports on the boards).

As an example, my DD had a 15 GBRS, and 120 test score two years ago, so she was in.

I do not know if this is the actual algorithm, as I am reverse engineering it, but it seems to work.

Note that WISC replaces the algorithm. It seems like 128 WISC and you are in regardless of the other factors.


What are 'test scores' in the fomula? NNAT + CogAT Composite?
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2012 10:32     Subject: Re:when are 1st-grade NNAT scores coming?
Agree. Let's all go to the explicit relationships forum and blast the posters there over their obsession with sex.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2012 10:29     Subject: Re:when are 1st-grade NNAT scores coming?
Anonymous wrote:Why are people on this board so interested in AAP scores and cutoffs over and over again? Everyone complains about teaching to the test but then they get so caught up in these AAP tests. Aren't there other things to focus on with our childrens' education besides whether they make it into the AAP center or not?


WTF? This thread is about AAP and the related score.
So people talk about that in this thread.

There are other threads about other subjects in the VA Public Schools forum.
If you are not interested in AAP/test scores, go to other threads.
You can also create your own thread of interest.
Very weird individual.



Anonymous
Post 01/05/2012 09:50     Subject: when are 1st-grade NNAT scores coming?
09:40: These are not AAP tests; the tests are used for AAP. People care about AAP, because for smarter kids (not just Profoundly Gifted), it is a much better education.

09:42: In order to verify, I would need more data. For the most part, I see the scores of children posted that were not admitted.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2012 09:42     Subject: Re:when are 1st-grade NNAT scores coming?
20:44: From what I can tell, the group test scores and GBRS are weighted about the same. It is just that we do not know things like the the mean values of GBRS. However, based on a older report, we can assume the GBRS x 10 is about the same as the test scores. So, a 13 GBRS is like 130 in the cogAT's. That may not be exactly right.

Now, lets assume it is a numbers game.

(GBRS x10 + test scores)/2 > 125 and you are in.

So with a 9 GBRS and 140 test scores, toy are at 115, and not in.

An 11 and 140, and you are in. (these numbers can be constrained from last years reports on the boards).

As an example, my DD had a 15 GBRS, and 120 test score two years ago, so she was in.

I do not know if this is the actual algorithm, as I am reverse engineering it, but it seems to work.

Note that WISC replaces the algorithm. It seems like 128 WISC and you are in regardless of the other factors.


Interesting! I never thought of it this way, but your "formula" seems to make sense.

Anonymous
Post 01/05/2012 09:40     Subject: Re:when are 1st-grade NNAT scores coming?
Why are people on this board so interested in AAP scores and cutoffs over and over again? Everyone complains about teaching to the test but then they get so caught up in these AAP tests. Aren't there other things to focus on with our childrens' education besides whether they make it into the AAP center or not?
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2012 06:48     Subject: when are 1st-grade NNAT scores coming?
20:44: From what I can tell, the group test scores and GBRS are weighted about the same. It is just that we do not know things like the the mean values of GBRS. However, based on a older report, we can assume the GBRS x 10 is about the same as the test scores. So, a 13 GBRS is like 130 in the cogAT's. That may not be exactly right.

Now, lets assume it is a numbers game.

(GBRS x10 + test scores)/2 > 125 and you are in.

So with a 9 GBRS and 140 test scores, toy are at 115, and not in.

An 11 and 140, and you are in. (these numbers can be constrained from last years reports on the boards).

As an example, my DD had a 15 GBRS, and 120 test score two years ago, so she was in.

I do not know if this is the actual algorithm, as I am reverse engineering it, but it seems to work.

Note that WISC replaces the algorithm. It seems like 128 WISC and you are in regardless of the other factors.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2012 22:02     Subject: Re:when are 1st-grade NNAT scores coming?
Anonymous wrote:PP, can you share your child's scores. if will be useful for us to have to go through the process this year.
wonder why some kids with high test scores are not being selected in first round?
i understand GBRS is given most weightage!


wait, weight, what???
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2012 20:44     Subject: Re:when are 1st-grade NNAT scores coming?
PP, can you share your child's scores. if will be useful for us to have to go through the process this year.
wonder why some kids with high test scores are not being selected in first round?
i understand GBRS is given most weightage!
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2012 20:06     Subject: Re:when are 1st-grade NNAT scores coming?
Anonymous wrote:I will go one step further. Yes, I want my snowflake in AAP. Badly. I will spend the bucks on WISC, endure the headaches of compiling outstanding work samples, and will grovel for letters of recommendation. I will do whatever I can to get him into the program (my daughter is in, via appeal, and here comes your favorite phrase for ridicule, she's thriving). Why do I want this so bad? Because hands down, it's a better education, with a more disciplined set of peers. If my desire to do this for my child ticks you off, then eff you. Come on, make my day, and rage on about how my child will water down the program for your profoundly gifted precious.


Agree. I have one in AAP, too, so I know the difference. Yes, also admitted on appeal, but by all rights should have been accepted on test scores alone (somewhat bizarre) and, guess what, DC is "thriving."